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Post by Kick Goals 10 on Sept 23, 2016 14:47:04 GMT -5
Are they allowed in RPL play? My daughter just got her new boots in, and they have metal studs. On top of it they are custom shoes. I guess I could find plastic screw ins if they are not allowed.
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Post by Keeper on Sept 23, 2016 15:07:45 GMT -5
Nope. Metal studs are still not allowed by US Youth Soccer. Though I believe theyre still allowed for high school play.
Though why is she wearing screwins? I thought those were soft ground cleats meant for wet or truly amazing grass fields, nothing like what we have in Atlanta with all this red clay.
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Post by guest on Sept 23, 2016 15:36:44 GMT -5
540.5 Any screw-in cleat that is broken or damaged in any way so as to expose any internal structure or present surface deformations with sharp edges or projections that might endanger any player coming in contact with it is prohibited and must be removed and/or replaced before that player is allowed to play.
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Post by guest on Sept 23, 2016 15:38:26 GMT -5
My daughter played against someone that had metal studs at U14. We complained and were told they are allowed, unless they were broken or damaged (see above rule).
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Post by Keeper on Sept 23, 2016 17:00:39 GMT -5
My daughter played against someone that had metal studs at U14. We complained and were told they are allowed, unless they were broken or damaged (see above rule). It comes from Law 4, Metal is dangerous to the player and other players. Law 4 - The Players Equipment Safety A player must not use equipment or wear anything that is dangerous to himself or another player (including any kind of jewelry).
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 23, 2016 20:04:48 GMT -5
There is no such rule against screw in cleats/studs, it's a misinterpretation of the rules that most people believe to be true. Screw in studs are in fact allowed provided they are not worn or have any sharp dangerous edges (they would file them down in the old days). The referee cleat inspection is not for screw in cleats, it's to insure the cleats are not dangerous and in proper condition.
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Post by Keeper on Sept 23, 2016 20:07:00 GMT -5
Guess like heading at U11 it's up to referee discretion since I've heard it both ways now.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 23, 2016 20:13:56 GMT -5
Guess like heading at U11 it's up to referee discretion since I've heard it both ways now. Soccer rules provide for aluminum screw in studs which most soccer screw in cleats have anyway. The referee has no leeway to deny a player the ability to wear them unless they are broken or have sharp edges, that is the only discretion they have, unlike say hard cast, the referee has no discretion and a player cannot play in club matches while wearing one, no matter how many pillows or bubble wrap is surrounding it, there is no wiggle room for hard cast in club soccer, it's a 100% no.
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Post by Keeper on Sept 23, 2016 20:33:28 GMT -5
Guess like heading at U11 it's up to referee discretion since I've heard it both ways now. Soccer rules provide for aluminum screw in studs which most soccer screw in cleats have anyway. The referee has no leeway to deny a player the ability to wear them unless they are broken or have sharp edges, that is the only discretion they have, unlike say hard cast, the referee has no discretion and a player cannot play in club matches while wearing one, no matter how many pillows or bubble wrap is surrounding it, there is no wiggle room for hard cast in club soccer, it's a 100% no. You can say it, but doesn't mean it hasn't happened and will continue to happen. Metal is metal and has no place on a youth soccer field outside of the goal posts. And about your cast posts, that's why you always call it a "brace" or "split" haha
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 23, 2016 20:45:27 GMT -5
Soccer rules provide for aluminum screw in studs which most soccer screw in cleats have anyway. The referee has no leeway to deny a player the ability to wear them unless they are broken or have sharp edges, that is the only discretion they have, unlike say hard cast, the referee has no discretion and a player cannot play in club matches while wearing one, no matter how many pillows or bubble wrap is surrounding it, there is no wiggle room for hard cast in club soccer, it's a 100% no. You can say it, but doesn't mean it hasn't happened and will continue to happen. Metal is metal and has no place on a youth soccer field outside of the goal posts. And about your cast posts, that's why you always call it a "brace" or "split" haha All due respect but it's not me "saying" it, under the laws of the game metal/aluminum screw in cleats are allowed provided they are not defective, that is without dispute. I was a certified ref and that's always been the case at least back in the early 2000's when I took my course and has been true since. If it has haopened unless the screw in's were damaged the referee's were wrong. What about the player that has a full knee brace after an ACL injury, that's allowed and had metal/aluminum parts and I was say it's more dangerous as it has more exposed surface area, going knee to knee with another player while wearing a full brace could injure a player as well, again that is allowed as well.
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Post by rifle on Sept 23, 2016 21:03:16 GMT -5
Metal is no more dangerous than plastic cleats, unless they've been deliberately dragged on concrete and basically sharpened.
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Post by alacrity174 on Sept 26, 2016 8:11:58 GMT -5
You can say it, but doesn't mean it hasn't happened and will continue to happen. Metal is metal and has no place on a youth soccer field outside of the goal posts. And about your cast posts, that's why you always call it a "brace" or "split" haha All due respect but it's not me "saying" it, under the laws of the game metal/aluminum screw in cleats are allowed provided they are not defective, that is without dispute. I was a certified ref and that's always been the case at least back in the early 2000's when I took my course and has been true since. If it has haopened unless the screw in's were damaged the referee's were wrong. What about the player that has a full knee brace after an ACL injury, that's allowed and had metal/aluminum parts and I was say it's more dangerous as it has more exposed surface area, going knee to knee with another player while wearing a full brace could injure a player as well, again that is allowed as well. Soccerfan is correct, as a currently certified ref metal studs are allowed as long as they do not have sharp edges or are worn to the screw in post etc, if they become dangerous they are out, same for the new plastic blades if they have a sharp edge on they are not allowed on the field.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 26, 2016 8:40:46 GMT -5
I remember back in the day, I thought screw ins were the coolest things on the planet. I'd wear them sometimes when the surface warranted them, they were the most uncomfortable things I had ever worn. I think they were nike tiempo's. painful as heck. But I didn't care, I thought I was so cool!
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Post by alacrity174 on Sept 27, 2016 12:37:19 GMT -5
I remember back in the day, I thought screw ins were the coolest things on the planet. I'd wear them sometimes when the surface warranted them, they were the most uncomfortable things I had ever worn. I think they were nike tiempo's. painful as heck. But I didn't care, I thought I was so cool! Nice thing about screw ins is you can change the studs to suit the conditions, if ground is really wet you can go to a longer stud, hard and can go with a short soft plastic. They have come a long way in comfort now too
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Post by touchlinedad on Sept 30, 2016 12:47:33 GMT -5
My son has used cleats with metal studs in both school and club play with no problems. I did purchase a cheaper pair of backup cleats to have on hand should a referee say he couldn't wear them, which is what I would do if your daughter uses the metal studs.
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Post by Kick Goals 10 on Sept 30, 2016 13:32:57 GMT -5
I decided to return them today, as she will be better suited with firm ground cleats. Although....they would be nice for the Vulcan Cup!!
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