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Post by who on Oct 31, 2016 12:45:58 GMT -5
Here we are, 2.5 months into the fall season and there are teams with only 4 of 11 matches played & none definitively scheduled for the future. With year end tournaments like CASL & Disney it makes completing those unscheduled matches more problematic. Meanwhile, other teams in the league who have played 2/3 of their matches already sit around wondering what the heck league is doing to try to get this league finalized in some reasonable amount of time. Doesn't respite confidence in the folk in charge at SRPL. Come on SRPL, stop looking like you're sitting on your hands.
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Post by spectator on Nov 1, 2016 8:53:33 GMT -5
Supply and demand problem - they've expanded SRPL to add Division 1 RPL and now there are too many teams - ergo games - to play and limited field space because other games are already scheduled.
Simple solution - eliminate Division 1 RPL - less teams - less games to reschedule. They already let local teams make up their games locally - but when you travel to one state to play another state's team and then have to make that up - where's the neutral ground then? This problem will remain no matter how many teams are involved but consolidating RPL back to one division only will be a good start.
Otherwise it's a total waste of money for too many teams to play RPL only to play half the games other leagues do.
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Post by newposter on Nov 1, 2016 19:12:46 GMT -5
If you eliminate RPL, those teams go back to C1. Teams bumped from C1 go to C2 and so on. Same number of games will be played. It will just be what level they are played at.
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Post by spectator on Nov 1, 2016 21:38:29 GMT -5
If you eliminate RPL, those teams go back to C1. Teams bumped from C1 go to C2 and so on. Same number of games will be played. It will just be what level they are played at. True but local league games are easier to reschedule. You can do weeknights or off times on weekends. When you have to coordinate between states and fields it's a logistical nightmare
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Post by rifle on Nov 2, 2016 17:10:47 GMT -5
If you eliminate RPL, those teams go back to C1. Teams bumped from C1 go to C2 and so on. Same number of games will be played. It will just be what level they are played at. Sounds just fine
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Post by SoccerMom on Nov 4, 2016 5:36:32 GMT -5
SRPL games are being scheduled by each individual club, whether its local or not. Teams are meeting each other halfway.
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Post by Kick Goals 10 on Nov 4, 2016 7:07:01 GMT -5
Correct, we are playing a Birmingham team at Univ. West GA. Exactly 1/2 way
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Post by footy on Nov 4, 2016 12:01:57 GMT -5
We are playing a South Carolina team next weekend in Jacksonville. The SC team may be playing a FL team the next day but can't really tell since the web site still shows 8 games as being unassigned.
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Post by alacrity174 on Nov 4, 2016 13:57:01 GMT -5
Supply and demand problem - they've expanded SRPL to add Division 1 RPL and now there are too many teams - ergo games - to play and limited field space because other games are already scheduled. Simple solution - eliminate Division 1 RPL - less teams - less games to reschedule. They already let local teams make up their games locally - but when you travel to one state to play another state's team and then have to make that up - where's the neutral ground then? This problem will remain no matter how many teams are involved but consolidating RPL back to one division only will be a good start. Otherwise it's a total waste of money for too many teams to play RPL only to play half the games other leagues do. Before there was SRPL and Div 1 RPL it was R3PL and SRPL. Basically the same number of teams. Not sure you are fixing a problem to be honest.
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Post by spectator on Nov 4, 2016 14:54:19 GMT -5
Supply and demand problem - they've expanded SRPL to add Division 1 RPL and now there are too many teams - ergo games - to play and limited field space because other games are already scheduled. Simple solution - eliminate Division 1 RPL - less teams - less games to reschedule. They already let local teams make up their games locally - but when you travel to one state to play another state's team and then have to make that up - where's the neutral ground then? This problem will remain no matter how many teams are involved but consolidating RPL back to one division only will be a good start. Otherwise it's a total waste of money for too many teams to play RPL only to play half the games other leagues do. Before there was SRPL and Div 1 RPL it was R3PL and SRPL. Basically the same number of teams. Not sure you are fixing a problem to be honest. Before there were also only max of four teams per state - now you have some age groups with 6-8 even 10 - that's too many IMO. Doesn't matter - once we have DA, ECNL, SRPL and Division 1 RPL everything will be so much more watered down. More money - more travel - less competition. how is that a good thing for youth soccer?
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Post by alacrity174 on Nov 4, 2016 16:04:12 GMT -5
Before there was SRPL and Div 1 RPL it was R3PL and SRPL. Basically the same number of teams. Not sure you are fixing a problem to be honest. Before there were also only max of four teams per state - now you have some age groups with 6-8 even 10 - that's too many IMO. Doesn't matter - once we have DA, ECNL, SRPL and Division 1 RPL everything will be so much more watered down. More money - more travel - less competition. how is that a good thing for youth soccer? Who has 10 teams in any RPL DIVISION? Traditionally GA had 4 to 6 in 2 RPL divi onside not much has really changed there. The idea in my opinion is fine too is just this year's application which is flawed mainly due to the new coordinator how made some bad decisions early on and never recovered
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Post by spectator on Nov 4, 2016 22:52:30 GMT -5
U19 girls have 9 or 10. Granted two are playing up bc U 18 only has 4 U17 has 6. We need to go back to 4 max. It's too watered down not worth the $ or time traveling bc the competition just isn't what it used to be
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Post by who on Nov 6, 2016 5:48:15 GMT -5
Supply and demand problem - they've expanded SRPL to add Division 1 RPL and now there are too many teams - ergo games - to play and limited field space because other games are already scheduled. Simple solution - eliminate Division 1 RPL - less teams - less games to reschedule. They already let local teams make up their games locally - but when you travel to one state to play another state's team and then have to make that up - where's the neutral ground then? This problem will remain no matter how many teams are involved but consolidating RPL back to one division only will be a good start. Otherwise it's a total waste of money for too many teams to play RPL only to play half the games other leagues do.
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Post by who on Nov 6, 2016 6:03:03 GMT -5
In the old system,east, central & west had separate leagues called r3pl, which had their own league & didn't the other two. The top teams in those 3 Leagues from the previous year played full SRPL which played each other. There were two problems with that setup: 1. Each year teams from east & central had to travel to TX for a 3 match weekend, which was pricey. 2. The East teams tended to best up on the teams from West & Central annually.
It very much looked like the RPL Admin in TX got tired of that & instead of a 3 division setup, they created a 2 division setup where TX never had to deal with east teams anymore. Both systems had a 2d tier which fed into the premier tier, but now the only time the west has to play eastern teams is at region III champions. Eastern teams still tend to win their, too. The two tier system works fine, there are just too many teams included. And this way, more West teams make it to regions than before, which I assume the TX RPL folks are happier with
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Post by spectator on Nov 6, 2016 10:43:23 GMT -5
The main problem this year has nothing to do with the format and everything to do with the incredibly poor job done by the RPL administrator. He has been absolutely incompetent to the task of running the league. Shows just how important having the right people is to the success of any organization. In this case, the wrong person for the wrong job. You do realize in this SRPL season there have been two pretty impactful hurricanes that have wrecked havoc with schedules? Herminie over Labor Day not only rained out quite a few games but cancelled the Disney Qualifier. Then Matthew later in the season pretty much shut down the Southeast Atlantic States so any games scheduled those weekend in areas that got a lot of rain had to be rescheduled. That has ZERO to do with an administrator and everything to do with circumstances beyond anyone's control. Add to that the number of teams and multiple states it's a logistical nightmare as I stated before. If you think you can do it better, by all means, volunteer. But you do need to realize that there were some pretty difficult circumstances this season with two major hurricanes within a month of each other - right in the heart of the SRPL season! And now that we're into November, rescheduling is more difficult with tournaments, the holidays and end of semester exams for the older players
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Post by newposter on Nov 6, 2016 12:47:09 GMT -5
Weather certainly has been an issue. However, the games need to be rescheduled. The league needs to locate fields schedule the games and if teams back out issue a forfeited game. We've rescheduled and had team agree only to have the team back out twice. This is unacceptable IMO.
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Post by nutmeg on Nov 6, 2016 14:29:15 GMT -5
The new Admnistrator has let the teams decide when they can and cannot play. Fact. We all understand the storm issue. There were rain dates that all teams knew about in August yet have told the league they made other plans. The Administrator is having coaches handle reschedules on their own. Completely unacceptable.
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Post by SoccerMom on Nov 6, 2016 15:52:48 GMT -5
The main problem this year has nothing to do with the format and everything to do with the incredibly poor job done by the RPL administrator. He has been absolutely incompetent to the task of running the league. Shows just how important having the right people is to the success of any organization. In this case, the wrong person for the wrong job. You do realize in this SRPL season there have been two pretty impactful hurricanes that have wrecked havoc with schedules? Herminie over Labor Day not only rained out quite a few games but cancelled the Disney Qualifier. Then Matthew later in the season pretty much shut down the Southeast Atlantic States so any games scheduled those weekend in areas that got a lot of rain had to be rescheduled. That has ZERO to do with an administrator and everything to do with circumstances beyond anyone's control. Add to that the number of teams and multiple states it's a logistical nightmare as I stated before. If you think you can do it better, by all means, volunteer. But you do need to realize that there were some pretty difficult circumstances this season with two major hurricanes within a month of each other - right in the heart of the SRPL season! And now that we're into November, rescheduling is more difficult with tournaments, the holidays and end of semester exams for the older players The Disney qualifier was not cancelled, and they ended up having decent weather. The fields that RPL had secured for that weekend were the problem and couldn't handle the rain from the previous days
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Post by spectator on Nov 6, 2016 16:31:08 GMT -5
You do realize in this SRPL season there have been two pretty impactful hurricanes that have wrecked havoc with schedules? Herminie over Labor Day not only rained out quite a few games but cancelled the Disney Qualifier. Then Matthew later in the season pretty much shut down the Southeast Atlantic States so any games scheduled those weekend in areas that got a lot of rain had to be rescheduled. That has ZERO to do with an administrator and everything to do with circumstances beyond anyone's control. Add to that the number of teams and multiple states it's a logistical nightmare as I stated before. If you think you can do it better, by all means, volunteer. But you do need to realize that there were some pretty difficult circumstances this season with two major hurricanes within a month of each other - right in the heart of the SRPL season! And now that we're into November, rescheduling is more difficult with tournaments, the holidays and end of semester exams for the older players The Disney qualifier was not cancelled, and they ended up having decent weather. The fields that RPL had secured for that weekend were the problem and couldn't handle the rain from the previous days My mistake - initially the reports were that it was cancelled. I think most of the teams playing were all from FL anyway. But your second statement confirms my point - fields were too wet to play - that's not the fault of any one administrator. If teams made arrangements on the pre-approved rain out weekends, they should have to forfeit. Same for any team refusing to at least try to get a game in. The OP is laying all the blame on the RPL admin - that's not a fair or accurate argument considering all the moving parts here.
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Post by SoccerMom on Nov 6, 2016 16:36:26 GMT -5
The Disney qualifier was not cancelled, and they ended up having decent weather. The fields that RPL had secured for that weekend were the problem and couldn't handle the rain from the previous days Labor Day weekend - yes Disney was cancelled - at least in our age group. But your second statement confirms my point - fields were too wet to play - that's not the fault of any one administrator. If teams made arrangements on the pre-approved rain out weekends, they should have to forfeit. Same for any team refusing to at least try to get a game in. The OP is laying all the blame on the RPL admin - that's not a fair or accurate argument considering all the moving parts here. Not sure why they cancelled some Disney ones and not others. I know of two boys teams from our club that played that weekend. And while I agree that we can't blame the administration for things beyond their control, I can tell you that the communication has been terrible. Unanswered calls, texts and emails leaves a bad taste. The communication problem has been on their end, teams have been trying to schedule games,but they wouldn't respond in a timely manner.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Nov 6, 2016 17:01:36 GMT -5
Communication may be an issue but when games were arranged agreed to then cancelled by a team not once but two times the league should have stepped in and assessed a forfeit. Instead it's now on the teams to agree so now multiple sites on multiple weekends in different states rather than the benefit of playing 2 or 3 in one location. That's a league issue too.
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