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Post by soccerforlife on Feb 27, 2017 19:20:41 GMT -5
All don't get fooled into the greatness of u13/u14 DA.
The major problems Yes the federation doesn't want the kids playing many games - so games are limited. And here is the problem. I agree our kids do play to many games - but when these rosters are huge we have many u13s playing 10 to 15 mins a weekend and then maybe 30 to 70 min the next weekend. Just not enough. Kids train all week and play 10 minutes. Look at the sub patterns of Atlanta uniteds 13s from the weekend.
Second - the substution restrictions are ridiculous for 12-13 year olds. No re-entry is foolish. How is that development.
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Post by allthingsoccer on Feb 28, 2017 13:43:08 GMT -5
Agree. I think its crazy to have no re-entry. Plus these clubs are maxing out roster spots. I heard that the CF U14 next year will only roster 18. Not 22+ like some other teams. Seems more and more like a money grab than development.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 28, 2017 14:29:30 GMT -5
Part of the issue GA United has is they aren't/weren't allowed to DP players because of the size of their player pool. It was felt it was an unfair advantage compared to other clubs. Not sure if Atlanta United has the same issue that GA United had, my guess is they are allowed to.
That is part of the reason for roster sizes -- but to the point about substitutions, agree 6000% - The Name is "developmental Academy" there is nothing developmental about substitutions restrictions and no re entry. It also always means for the teams that rotate keepers every game, they have to use a roster spot each week for the 2nd keeper in case the primary keeper has an injury. Needs to be more flexibility and open subs with reentry. I have no problem with the concept of "moments" Currently there is a minimal number of moments during a game that is allowed when teams can substitute, but halftime does not count as one of them. What they don't want is the crazy coach that ruins the game by subbing a player every 3 minutes.
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Post by allthingsoccer on Feb 28, 2017 15:04:54 GMT -5
Yeah i agree. For keepers its real hard pill to swallow when its 50/50 play time. really no other option unless you go ECNL/ODP/Guest play route.
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Post by diceshooter on Feb 28, 2017 15:38:58 GMT -5
Part of the issue GA United has is they aren't/weren't allowed to DP players because of the size of their player pool. It was felt it was an unfair advantage compared to other clubs. Not sure if Atlanta United has the same issue that GA United had, my guess is they are allowed to. That is part of the reason for roster sizes -- but to the point about substitutions, agree 6000% - The Name is "developmental Academy" there is nothing developmental about substitutions restrictions and no re entry. It also always means for the teams that rotate keepers every game, they have to use a roster spot each week for the 2nd keeper in case the primary keeper has an injury. Needs to be more flexibility and open subs with reentry. I have no problem with the concept of "moments" Currently there is a minimal number of moments during a game that is allowed when teams can substitute, but halftime does not count as one of them. What they don't want is the crazy coach that ruins the game by subbing a player every 3 minutes. Where did you get that from? DA rules require that a DP be registered at the same club as the DA team. Supposedly GU can have DP players but they would have been required to select one, and only one, of the alliance clubs as their base club. Imagine those politics, if UFA kids, or SSA kids, were the only kids allowed to DP with other alliance clubs shut out. DP players also could not register until October 15 of last year, and are limited to 6 games.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 28, 2017 16:05:19 GMT -5
Part of the issue GA United has is they aren't/weren't allowed to DP players because of the size of their player pool. It was felt it was an unfair advantage compared to other clubs. Not sure if Atlanta United has the same issue that GA United had, my guess is they are allowed to. That is part of the reason for roster sizes -- but to the point about substitutions, agree 6000% - The Name is "developmental Academy" there is nothing developmental about substitutions restrictions and no re entry. It also always means for the teams that rotate keepers every game, they have to use a roster spot each week for the 2nd keeper in case the primary keeper has an injury. Needs to be more flexibility and open subs with reentry. I have no problem with the concept of "moments" Currently there is a minimal number of moments during a game that is allowed when teams can substitute, but halftime does not count as one of them. What they don't want is the crazy coach that ruins the game by subbing a player every 3 minutes. Where did you get that from? DA rules require that a DP be registered at the same club as the DA team. Supposedly GU can have DP players but they would have been required to select one, and only one, of the alliance clubs as their base club. Imagine those politics, if UFA kids, or SSA kids, were the only kids allowed to DP with other alliance clubs shut out. DP players also could not register until October 15 of last year, and are limited to 6 games. Thats the point, they were not allowed to use the entire player pool, but never heard the details that they had to choose one club if they wanted to use DPs, so that is very interesting!! So are we to assume atlanta united has to follow the same rules then?
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Post by gaprospects on Feb 28, 2017 20:30:43 GMT -5
Where did you get that from? DA rules require that a DP be registered at the same club as the DA team. Supposedly GU can have DP players but they would have been required to select one, and only one, of the alliance clubs as their base club. Imagine those politics, if UFA kids, or SSA kids, were the only kids allowed to DP with other alliance clubs shut out. DP players also could not register until October 15 of last year, and are limited to 6 games. Thats the point, they were not allowed to use the entire player pool, but never heard the details that they had to choose one club if they wanted to use DPs, so that is very interesting!! So are we to assume atlanta united has to follow the same rules then? Atlanta United has players training with them who haven't played in a single match. They have also added players who aren't considered DPs to their rosters, but they have also had players who left the team after realizing where they stood in terms of getting playing time.
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