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May 4, 2017 7:38:20 GMT -5
Post by Strikeorkeep on May 4, 2017 7:38:20 GMT -5
My U11 was included in a group that was invited to train with a GA Soccer coach recently with the idea it could lead to invitation for Pre-ODP camp this summer. I am uneducated about ODP but if they are not invited to the camp this summer, does this affect their ability to tryout in the fall? Or does the camp just give kids a leg up at tryouts? Any information would be appreciated.
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May 4, 2017 8:18:50 GMT -5
Post by SoccerMom on May 4, 2017 8:18:50 GMT -5
The kids that go to pre-odp camp get to skip the first round of tryouts and go straight to state tryouts. I know kids that were invited to pre-odp camp and didnt make ODP at tryouts and vice versa
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Post by Strikeorkeep on May 4, 2017 8:40:46 GMT -5
Got it, so if they don't get the summer invite, it isn't a show stopper? Thanks for the information.
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Post by allthingsoccer on May 4, 2017 9:39:13 GMT -5
You will be fine. SoccerMom is correct. You will have a chance to make state tryouts through open tryouts.
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May 4, 2017 11:37:47 GMT -5
Post by SoccerMom on May 4, 2017 11:37:47 GMT -5
Got it, so if they don't get the summer invite, it isn't a show stopper? Thanks for the information. Correct! Good luck!!
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Post by spectator on May 4, 2017 21:54:49 GMT -5
The Pre-ODP camp is an identifier and it does give a leg up but not significantly so use it for what it is - a chance to test drive the ODP way of playing.
I'm very conflicted about ODP right now - been involved with it for a while and I've seen both sides - the benefits of exceptional training and coaching and the politics of who knows who and who gets chosen. That's not exclusive to ODP - that's life. My conflict is about the future of ODP now that there will be Girls DA - even though both ODP and DA are run by USYS - many feel (ODP coaches included) that it's the nail in the coffin for ODP - at least at the older ages.
For the youngers -U12 and below, ODP could serve as a pre-DA identifier and work well with DA even up through U15 as a pre-pool. I'd love to see ODP positioned that way but I'm not in charge so here's hoping. ODP is also a great option for players from outlying clubs who can't or don't want to trek to one of the ECNL or DA clubs to play at that level.
The problem is that what once was the only path to national teams, is now one of many options - DA, ECNL, RPL teams get exposure to college and national scouts. The scouts still attend major ODP events and ODP coaches can still recommend players to attend National ID camps - but it's not what it was when ODP was the only game in town.
The positive parts of ODP are the training and the coaches - exposure to many different coaches - some of whom are coaching at college level. Region Camp and events are also a great way to be seen. And for my player - who will be aging out soon - it's been a great experience to meet other girls and have fun while playing this game she loves. For us, the cost was minimal - you are paying for training sessions and gear - and then the sub regional event and region camp are extra but in relation to what we spend on club fees and travel, ODP is a bargain.
For your U11, I'd recommend ODP. If your player gets the pre-ODP camp invite - definitely go. If your player likes the camp, definitely try out. For that young age group, ODP is great training and the chance to meet players from other clubs - as those friendships form, so can some teammates if you end up moving to another club. At the very least, at the younger ages, position ODP as a great trial run - see what's out there -see what training your player gets - and see where it takes your player with regard to skills and ability.
We've loved ODP but even my player sees the changes coming - and it's sad. She's still proud of her time in ODP but she sees that it's not what it was when we first started. But again - that's life -things change.
Good luck to your player! I hope it's a positive experience and journey!
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Post by soccerparent02 on May 7, 2017 13:20:26 GMT -5
We've been very pleased with the training. I believe it is as good as it has always been. Our son chooses it over DA because of the option of playing high school which DA doesn't allow. His practices are now at Atlanta United's training facility so no place can match that. He plays ODP, RPL and his club is joining the boys side of ECNL. I'm glad we have many options for the players in Georgia.
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May 7, 2017 17:33:43 GMT -5
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Post by spectator on May 7, 2017 17:33:43 GMT -5
We've been very pleased with the training. I believe it is as good as it has always been. Our son chooses it over DA because of the option of playing high school which DA doesn't allow. His practices are now at Atlanta United's training facility so no place can match that. He plays ODP, RPL and his club is joining the boys side of ECNL. I'm glad we have many options for the players in Georgia. Going on record to admit to being insanely jealous of where the boys get to train this spring. We've been trekking it out to RYSA - which is a lovely enough complex but come on - Atlanta United is in our back yard! Throw the girls some love and let us train there, too, Jacob!!!!
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May 8, 2017 11:52:47 GMT -5
Post by randomparent on May 8, 2017 11:52:47 GMT -5
so odp for boys practices out of ATL UTD fields now versus the south side? is that a permanent thing or temporary?
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May 8, 2017 13:05:27 GMT -5
Post by footy on May 8, 2017 13:05:27 GMT -5
so odp for boys practices out of ATL UTD fields now versus the south side? is that a permanent thing or temporary? Has been at AU since January and will continue until region trials in July. Not sure about next year.
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May 8, 2017 14:26:25 GMT -5
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 8, 2017 14:26:25 GMT -5
So ODP along with NTC gives the coaches at AU a great opportunity to save on gas money "scouting" a collection of top players lol
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