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Post by soccerdaddy on Feb 22, 2018 0:37:18 GMT -5
I’m sure many of you have seen or heard the way Germany in 2000 went back to putting an emphasis in their youth and creating numbers for probability to make it International. Their system like Spain and France have paved the way for great players. When will we acknowledge this and redo U.S/ U.S Youth/ U.S Club Soccer organizations? I think I answered my own question, need a governing entity for all youth leagues. Will that ever happen? This is a really great documentary on how Germany overcame “shame” in defeat of the European championships in 2000. Excellent documentary on the German soccer youth development approach. www.google.com/amp/s/norcalsoccerdad.com/2016/12/07/the-german-youth-development-model/amp/
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Post by rifle on Feb 22, 2018 7:10:36 GMT -5
Our federation exists to keep youth coaches getting paid and to keep MLS owners wealthy. Reform candidates in the recent election probably got more votes but the "weighted votes" (calculated based upon fake announced attendance figures) made sure the status quo is maintained. If you never connected the dots, read this: blog.3four3.com/2015/09/14/pay-to-play-and-the-link-to-promotion-relegation/
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Post by soccerdaddy on Feb 22, 2018 8:38:22 GMT -5
Our federation exists to keep youth coaches getting paid and to keep MLS owners wealthy. Reform candidates in the recent election probably got more votes but the "weighted votes" (calculated based upon fake announced attendance figures) made sure the status quo is maintained. If you never connected the dots, read this: blog.3four3.com/2015/09/14/pay-to-play-and-the-link-to-promotion-relegation/This is sad for our country. I don’t think the New USSF President will want to change much on a money making model. He has to want to implement change with drastic force in order to compete with the rest of the world. Not just Europe, but South America also produces the World’s best players. It’s obvious that their systems work and the focus is, “YOUTH”...What a story for AU, making the transfer - $15 Million for Barco! Barco will get some $ along wth this transfer but is giving back to his youth club who is already getting paid for developing him. See who gets the PROFIT to continue developing players 😃 Let’s use this as a way to start the change!!!
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Post by Strikermom on Feb 22, 2018 11:48:11 GMT -5
As an educator for 24 years, do you think it is the college mindset of our country?? How many of the other nations mentioned stress University for their students they way we do? My parents are from the Caribbean, and it that is not always the path, most get a job out of high school. Also, don't the other countries have high schools devoted to sports training? Just putting those thought out there
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Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 22, 2018 11:59:00 GMT -5
Soccer is positioning itself as the anti-pathway from traditional education. How many kids are turning to being home schooled to alleviate the pressure and school home work curriculum or seeking alternative schools where they can attend a half day. College soccer being questioned as a pathway for success. DA players not allowed to play high school. Until MLS offers reasonable salaries for younger players, I would tell my kid to take head to a top d1 school offer any day of the week over the MLS. Unless the kid has a specific skill set -- ie plumber, mechanic, graphic design etc where the formal Undergrad degree might not be necessary. Soccer seems to be the only team sport that really wants no part of the traditional education system. All the other sports embrace the assistance middle school/high school provide to their sports. Basketball AAU has taken over hoops, but high school basketball means so much to these kids. A chance to represent your school and your peers. you can become a legend in your community. Schools also provide a balance between meeting goals and commitment to a team -- you do not do well in the classroom, your not allowed to play. you get in trouble at school, your not allowed to play. Kids work out at school, learn about cross training, nutrition. Schools allow for community support of these players. This community lives and dies for basketball! www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/22467698/how-kinston-north-carolina-became-greatest-producer-nba-talent-america
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Feb 22, 2018 22:09:02 GMT -5
Lots of good points made. I'd like to add that Soccer is also the only sport not fully integrated with the high school. We've all heard the warnings about playing High School soccer and the dangers of getting hurt due to the lack of skilled players. Plus you have the professional teams working with the downline. In football, you play HS, where you get recruited for College, where you get drafted for the Pros. You are not allowed to play Pro football sooner than your Junior year I believe. You don't have that issue in soccer. In respect to most of the world, they also don't have the myriad of professional sports options we have. Most countries barely have a legitimate soccer league, other than in Europe where it is well established and well funded. We have Football, Baseball, Basketball, Hockey, Wrestling and even Lacrosse is making a push as of late. Could you just imagine pure athletes like OBJ and LeBron dedicating their lives to Soccer only?
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Post by alacrity174 on Feb 28, 2018 11:12:49 GMT -5
Lots of good points made. I'd like to add that Soccer is also the only sport not fully integrated with the high school. We've all heard the warnings about playing High School soccer and the dangers of getting hurt due to the lack of skilled players. Plus you have the professional teams working with the downline. In football, you play HS, where you get recruited for College, where you get drafted for the Pros. You are not allowed to play Pro football sooner than your Junior year I believe. You don't have that issue in soccer. In respect to most of the world, they also don't have the myriad of professional sports options we have. Most countries barely have a legitimate soccer league, other than in Europe where it is well established and well funded. We have Football, Baseball, Basketball, Hockey, Wrestling and even Lacrosse is making a push as of late. Could you just imagine pure athletes like OBJ and LeBron dedicating their lives to Soccer only? Not sure where you got your info that other than Europe no other country has a legitimate soccer league, just look south of the Rio Grande and you will see just about every country has a league. China's league is growing leaps and bounds and certain African countries have viable leagues. The other sports you named are really US only sports, nobody outside North America plays NFL Football or Baseball, Basketball is a small time hobby for most countries outside USA, Wrestling not even a sport in many countries and nobody has heard of LAX outside USA. So what we see is the US is dominant in these sports because nobody else plays which means NFL can use H/S and College as a development tool and then get a player at aged 21 or 22. If you tried this in Soccer this player is already 5 years behind the curve, look at the new 17 year old ATL UTD have brought in, he is a similar age to Andrew Carlton yet has already amassed much more experience and we look to Andrew and Chris Gosling as shining lights for the soccer scene. World soccer is a different animal than all other high school sports and as it is a Worldwide game to be successful the US will have to adapt our system to get our players some level of parity.
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Post by rifle on Feb 28, 2018 11:23:38 GMT -5
American soccer is all about the league. From youth to pro, the players are good - but money talks rather than team quality.
The rest of the world is about clubs. Those clubs are local and locally supported. If the top team is good enough they participate at the highest levels - otherwise they settle in at the level they're capable of.
Kids play in the academy and the best ones live the dream. The clubs get compensation if the kid makes it big. This is the world soccer market that US Soccer isn't part of.. outside of a handful of bright lights.
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Post by soccerdaddy on Mar 7, 2018 11:42:59 GMT -5
American soccer is all about the league. From youth to pro, the players are good - but money talks rather than team quality. The rest of the world is about clubs. Those clubs are local and locally supported. If the top team is good enough they participate at the highest levels - otherwise they settle in at the level they're capable of. Kids play in the academy and the best ones live the dream. The clubs get compensation if the kid makes it big. This is the world soccer market that US Soccer isn't part of.. outside of a handful of bright lights. So True! Exactly!
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Post by newposter on Mar 7, 2018 18:14:12 GMT -5
Glad to see that others are finally realizing there are issues with the current system. There is a monopoly on US Soccer no relegation and thus no reason to change. DA has failed in its mission. If anything US teams have regressed. Look at our women's teams` recent performances. We were lucky to get a tie.
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Post by soccerdaddy on Mar 7, 2018 20:19:25 GMT -5
Glad to see that others are finally realizing there are issues with the current system. There is a monopoly on US Soccer no relegation and thus no reason to change. DA has failed in its mission. If anything US teams have regressed. Look at our women's teams` recent performances. We were lucky to get a tie. Agreed that DA failed but US Soccer won’t pick up or invest in anything else. That would admit they were wrong in the first place, I believe they will put more into DA and hopefully bring in the State Sovcer associations but will probably want to have control over decisions and operations.
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