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Post by soccermaxx72 on Mar 30, 2018 10:49:00 GMT -5
The main question seems to be, who is driving the boat?
Obviously, DA seems to be the new gold standard. How can ECNL, RPL and a potential new 'Champions League' from the Big 6 clubs all survive?
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 30, 2018 11:00:16 GMT -5
They will survive, us parents will line up in drones to foot the bill!
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Post by TheMadOx on Mar 30, 2018 14:04:01 GMT -5
I might miss big time here...but if Champions League is run similar to ECNL...RPL won't survive...it will be replaced. The reason this league was formed was due to the frustrations with RPL
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Post by soccerdaddy on Mar 30, 2018 15:53:24 GMT -5
I think that USSF should be Captain of the boat and let DA take it’s course. It seems like USSF is only responsible for DA and rarely mentions any other league except for US Youth Soccer. I’m sure I’m wrong about that. What does USSF think of US Club Soccer? I don’t think they can classify where they stand in this or ask for any control. Seems like for now, US Youth Soccer and all the States that are a part of that umbrella will have to fight it out with US Club Soccer. If the big 5 let US Club Soccer run the league and they do the same in other states then US Youth Soccer will bein trouble. Judging that most States have the same issues as we do with RPL. Still not sure who is the leader for youth soccer? What does USSF say? What does US Club Soccer say? What does US Youth Soccer say? What do you say?
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Post by spectator on Mar 31, 2018 7:37:16 GMT -5
I might miss big time here...but if Champions League is run similar to ECNL...RPL won't survive...it will be replaced. The reason this league was formed was due to the frustrations with RPL Execpt that it will be club specific. What about the smaller clubs or is the ultimate plan to suck all them in with the mega clubs? This new league is about greed not what is best for players. The arrogance of these larger clubs assuming they are superior to smaller ones is ridiculous. Just because a club is big or has a reputation for some successful teams does not equate to better. A good coach far outweighs the “reputation” of a club. We know many girls from a team at a “top” club who all quit this year because the coach they had last year was so bad. The team won games but they all hated him and the majority of them all quit playing soccer completely this year because of it.
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Post by soccerdaddy on Mar 31, 2018 8:17:35 GMT -5
I might miss big time here...but if Champions League is run similar to ECNL...RPL won't survive...it will be replaced. The reason this league was formed was due to the frustrations with RPL Execpt that it will be club specific. What about the smaller clubs or is the ultimate plan to suck all them in with the mega clubs? This new league is about greed not what is best for players. The arrogance of these larger clubs assuming they are superior to smaller ones is ridiculous. Just because a club is big or has a reputation for some successful teams does not equate to better. A good coach far outweighs the “reputation” of a club. We know many girls from a team at a “top” club who all quit this year because the coach they had last year was so bad. The team won games but they all hated him and the majority of them all quit playing soccer completely this year because of it. I for one would love to know how tournaments will be run for the Big 5 as well as the excluded clubs and who comes out on top ? Seems like Big and Small clubs can benefit if they work together. I sense a lot of haste between all clubs. It’s a pay to play world and if you are running a business you buy low and sell high to keep a profit. How can you blame five clubs with 20,000 potential players wanting to pay less and control more versus paying Georgia soccer to stay in control of their profit? Profit means expansion and longevity. Not necessarily greed as this is the American Dream, right? I get it, why they’re doing it. Protect the ones who invest and create a better return of service. If Parents and players don’t like their return on investment then as you mentioned, they will go somewhere else if the club doesn’t do anything about correcting the situation.
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Post by spectator on Mar 31, 2018 8:55:12 GMT -5
Execpt that it will be club specific. What about the smaller clubs or is the ultimate plan to suck all them in with the mega clubs? This new league is about greed not what is best for players. The arrogance of these larger clubs assuming they are superior to smaller ones is ridiculous. Just because a club is big or has a reputation for some successful teams does not equate to better. A good coach far outweighs the “reputation” of a club. We know many girls from a team at a “top” club who all quit this year because the coach they had last year was so bad. The team won games but they all hated him and the majority of them all quit playing soccer completely this year because of it. I for one would love to know how tournaments will be run for the Big 5 as well as the excluded clubs and who comes out on top ? Seems like Big and Small clubs can benefit if they work together. I sense a lot of haste between all clubs. It’s a pay to play world and if you are running a business you buy low and sell high to keep a profit. How can you blame five clubs with 20,000 potential players wanting to pay less and control more versus paying Georgia soccer to stay in control of their profit? Profit means expansion and longevity. Not necessarily greed as this is the American Dream, right? I get it, why they’re doing it. Protect the ones who invest and create a better return of service. If Parents and players don’t like their return on investment then as you mentioned, they will go somewhere else if the club doesn’t do anything about correcting the situation. Yup. The American Dream is about money for the shareholders. But this at its core - is youth soccer - not a corporation. Poor kids are just collateral damage here. Like I have said before - so glad to be aging out and that my kid had success and a great coach at a small club.
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Post by rifle on Mar 31, 2018 9:27:29 GMT -5
Yup. The American Dream is about money for the shareholders. But this at its core - is youth soccer - not a corporation. Poor kids are just collateral damage here. Like I have said before - so glad to be aging out and that my kid had success and a great coach at a small club. Amen to that
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 31, 2018 12:07:37 GMT -5
I could see this being the beginning of the end of state soccer associations as we know it. US club, could take over and really replicate everything that southeastern states are doing.
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Post by rifle on Mar 31, 2018 13:47:14 GMT -5
I could see this being the beginning of the end of state soccer associations as we know it. US club, could take over and really replicate everything that southeastern states are doing. I am thinking the same..
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Post by dad on Mar 31, 2018 14:58:58 GMT -5
The two leagues are not in competition with each other. The champion league is only for 5 clubs. Every other club in Georgia will be in RPL. If US club soccer made their leagues merit based yes us youth soccer and state leagues would be in trouble. US Club Soccer has gone after the most lucrative niche in kids soccer and by design is not trying to run the whole show. They just want to run the show where the money is.
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Post by ultimatedad on Mar 31, 2018 15:44:46 GMT -5
us club soccer needs to slowly,but as fast as possible,incorperate all clubs into ECNL. US Youth soccer needs to go nuclear and ban all rebel clubs from all competition unless they come back to the Union. We have a war in kids soccer. will be interesting to see who makes the right moves and comes out on top. And how many kids get hurt in the process.
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Post by spectator on Apr 1, 2018 12:36:43 GMT -5
The two leagues are not in competition with each other. The champion league is only for 5 clubs. Every other club in Georgia will be in RPL. If US club soccer made their leagues merit based yes us youth soccer and state leagues would be in trouble. US Club Soccer has gone after the most lucrative niche in kids soccer and by design is not trying to run the whole show. They just want to run the show where the money is. And exactly HOW are these big clubs different than US Club Siccer with regard to fillowing miney over development? This is Academy soccer 2.0. Big club play each other because they have numbers. Smaller clubs are shut out At least have the decency to call this what it is - end of the line for any club not in the “big 6”
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Post by infoguy on Apr 3, 2018 8:40:35 GMT -5
The two leagues are not in competition with each other. The champion league is only for 5 clubs. Every other club in Georgia will be in RPL. If US club soccer made their leagues merit based yes us youth soccer and state leagues would be in trouble. US Club Soccer has gone after the most lucrative niche in kids soccer and by design is not trying to run the whole show. They just want to run the show where the money is. And exactly HOW are these big clubs different than US Club Siccer with regard to fillowing miney over development? This is Academy soccer 2.0. Big club play each other because they have numbers. Smaller clubs are shut out At least have the decency to call this what it is - end of the line for any club not in the “big 6” From my microcosm of the world, my kid started at a small club then moved to a large club - there is a reason why this small club is still a small club. The big club offered a level of seriousness that my kid needed at the time. The small club for which he previously played did not care to take the steps to compete at the older ages - it’s not because the evil big clubs preyed on it.
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