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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 21, 2018 10:01:05 GMT -5
Been the rumor for a year now. I honestly was expecting something when they announced the new DA teams month ago. It's the unfortunate circumstances of US soccer, leagues stacked upon leagues with no pathway between them. yes MLS on average are better teams and have more resources than the non-mls clubs. Most are free to play as well. not all. Its too bad there are many non-mls teams doing well and as good if not better than mls clubs. Orlando city is behind non-mls clubs in every age group for example.
I would assume it would be for the u17s and older, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did it all the way down to u13.
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Post by cleansheet on Apr 22, 2018 11:57:31 GMT -5
I keep hearing this might happen starting 2018/2019. So pretty soon. MLS DA - Tier 1 Non-MLS DA - Tier 2 Makes a lot of sense for U17 & U19; Not so much sense for U12, U13, & U14; U15 is more difficult to figure. I would think that if this actually happens it would begin at U15 or most likely U17. It would also be an opportunity to allow limited HS play for Tier 2 players. The parallel is that it seems like MLS wants their own league just like the CL - I wonder if they’d even call it DA. Any thoughts? I heard DA will have 3 tiers.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 22, 2018 12:15:18 GMT -5
I keep hearing this might happen starting 2018/2019. So pretty soon. MLS DA - Tier 1 Non-MLS DA - Tier 2 Makes a lot of sense for U17 & U19; Not so much sense for U12, U13, & U14; U15 is more difficult to figure. I would think that if this actually happens it would begin at U15 or most likely U17. It would also be an opportunity to allow limited HS play for Tier 2 players. The parallel is that it seems like MLS wants their own league just like the CL - I wonder if they’d even call it DA. Any thoughts? I heard DA will have 3 tiers. 3 Tiers? With promotion and relegation between the 2nd and 3rd tiers?
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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 22, 2018 15:14:35 GMT -5
This is from 2 years ago - some great points made by CB “For years, I’ve heard talk of MLS academies’ desire to break away from the DA and compete only against one another. The justification for this seems to revolve around the idea that youth-only clubs have a fundamentally different outlook – many hate and fear losing their players to neighboring MLS clubs, so they try their best to beat them on the field whenever possible, which leads to bunker-and-counter, long-ball and other tactics that seek an immediate result instead of long-term development. And it seems to be a two-way street: I’ve heard from more than one non-MLS DA coach who’s convinced that both MLS and USSF share the goal of pushing youth-only clubs out of the DA whenever they get the chance. While it may sound paranoid, it’s more understandable when you look at the ease with which MLSers have been admitted to the DA over the years compared to the significant hurdles that youth-only organizations generally face.” www.soccerwire.com/blog-posts/mls-vs-non-mls-can-the-development-academy-keep-itself-together/
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Post by rifle on Apr 22, 2018 15:27:29 GMT -5
If every youth and pro club had opportunity to rise to top by winning... This notion of "best" would sort itself out in a few short years.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 22, 2018 15:34:38 GMT -5
If every youth and pro club had opportunity to rise to top by winning... This notion of "best" would sort itself out in a few short years. I agree - but that would be too easy and make too much sense.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 22, 2018 15:41:35 GMT -5
If every youth and pro club had opportunity to rise to top by winning... This notion of "best" would sort itself out in a few short years. In the pro ranks yes, it probably will. However, in the youth, it would make it a race to the top. MLS clubs and rich non-MLS clubs will do anything in their power to secure and retain the top youth players. Development would get run out of the building. They would instead be looking for the kid that can help them now. Can you imagine AU allowing themselves to be relegated amongst the other clubs here in Metro Atlanta?
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Post by rifle on Apr 22, 2018 20:29:41 GMT -5
I can't argue with that. The important distinction in my fairy tale is that amateur and Pro clubs would be the same entity.
Compensation to clubs that actually teach kids.. would allow them to do it for less and less money. Thus the pond gets bigger and the overall quality rises.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 22, 2018 21:18:43 GMT -5
Creating a youth soccer system which is tier based upon how rich the owners of the club are isn’t the solution.
Don’t kid yourself teams are playing to win. Look at the minutes kids play on rosters. The start percentages etc. Teams play their best players. You don’t sacrifice your style of play for results, but if your style of play doesn’t bring results, I think you have a problem. Teams bring in players from all over the place to guest play and add to their academy.
I don’t buy into the term development at u15 and above. I buy into patience - but very few clubs have it.
And if mls clubs want to leave DA because they don’t like the rules for their top players and want to handle kids with the best interest of their club - then we have a huge problem with our world class system.
It’s juat foolish to assume all and only the best players are at mls clubs, and I fear that will be the direction and future of DA and our scouting system.
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