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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 8, 2018 14:58:20 GMT -5
I can only speak about the Girls side, since everything has changed in the last few years after my son played. After watching the SRPL league this year, I believe the SCCL Teams should be better than most of the local RPL teams in the region. Of course, there will always be a club that has one or two really good teams at specific age groups such as the SSA 05 Team this year or the Tophat 04 team last year but at the end of the day, no club seems to keep the majority of a team together for the sake of keeping them together. They consistently try to select the best girls possible and put them on a team and expect chemistry to happen. The reason some of these teams are so good is because of their chemistry together, not because they have the best players. The Big 5 will try to put their best Team at each level (DA,ECNL.SCCL), especially the SCCL team because it is a new league run by the clubs. Most people like to see competitive teams at every at age level for that skill set. I don't care if it is DA, ECNL, SCCL or Athena because who wants to travel to Florida or the next town over and win or lose 10-0. DA Teams & ECNL Teams are supposed to be quality teams out of the gate and when those teams are bad it impacts the integrity of the league and the club. Just my 2 cents :-) Problem with your theory is most of the Big 5 do not plan to play those teams in SCCL. SSA 05s for example will move into the new expanded NPL. The 2nd team from SSA will move into SCCL and they are Athena “B”
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Post by TheMadOx on May 8, 2018 15:05:53 GMT -5
However, if SSA would bring their best from all locations to form a quality SCCL team out of 05, you can change the level of play a bit.
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 8, 2018 15:25:51 GMT -5
However, if SSA would bring their best from all locations to form a quality SCCL team out of 05, you can change the level of play a bit. SSA already does bring their best together
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 8, 2018 15:28:18 GMT -5
Sorry but the only way this leagues competition quality can be good enough is if these clubs recruit teams from the Little clubs. You would need to pull in RPL teams from Ambush, Inter Atlanta, KSA and DDY. That’s how you make this a good League.
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 8, 2018 15:44:44 GMT -5
Sorry but the only way this leagues competition quality can be good enough is if these clubs recruit teams from the Little clubs. You would need to pull in RPL teams from Ambush, Inter Atlanta, KSA and DDY. That’s how you make this a good League. How about we just agree to disagree about the potential and wait and see what actually happens? You are assuming that there won't be lots of shifting around of players anyway. There always is a lot of shifting. I will be interested to see if Georgia Soccer holds to their 11 returning players rule. After all it would not surprise me if several of the teams that will be promoted do not have 11 returning players. Especially teams with rosters of 15 to start off with. That rule used to be half of the team (8 players). That is more reasonable. 11 is unlikely for a lot of those teams.
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Post by TheMadOx on May 8, 2018 15:47:44 GMT -5
So you are telling me in the 05 Girls group, the 3 teams in Athena B (at least 2, since 1 is Savannah) SSA couldn't merge together to form a team of better quality? Who knows, just seems like the clubs in this new league aren't going sit idle and simply submit their current "2nd team". For example, I can see GSA merging their 2 Athena A teams in 05 and make a quality side for SCCL.
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 8, 2018 20:52:22 GMT -5
So you are telling me in the 05 Girls group, the 3 teams in Athena B (at least 2, since 1 is Savannah) SSA couldn't merge together to form a team of better quality? Who knows, just seems like the clubs in this new league aren't going sit idle and simply submit their current "2nd team". For example, I can see GSA merging their 2 Athena A teams in 05 and make a quality side for SCCL. Lol people can’t seem to combine UFA team from Forsyth and Norcross, but you want to combine SSA Marietta and SSA Coweta.
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Post by petrcechitout on May 8, 2018 21:32:14 GMT -5
So the assumption is the SCCL will be a bad league because SSA can’t field quality second Teams to play in the SCCL, if their Top teams are playing in the NPL? If that is the case, then I guess their 2nd team will get beat by every other clubs 3rd team, which means the league will be competitive for everyone other than SSA, which I find hard to believe. If any Clubs 2nd team cant’t compete in the SCCL then how can that team compete in the RPL? What am I missing? It’s in the best interest of every Big 5 club to field a competitive SCCL team given they chose to help create the league.
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Post by surgesoccer on May 8, 2018 23:45:13 GMT -5
The clubs will have a hard time competing if parents decide that the level of competition is sub-par and look at alternatives.
The problem is the Alphabet soup nature of soccer.. You have enough good quality teams in the Atlanta area to never have to leave the state. But Clubs want to get bigger and bigger so they create all of these leagues which are simply a means to market their club to pull kids from other clubs. More kids = more dollars.
Keep the top teams in Atlanta here playing each other in a league. Then host a tournament, like State Cup, where teams earn spots to compete in a regional tournament, then advance to a national tournament.
But playing teams in NC, FL, SC, etc. is like crack to parents. We eat it up. 5 hour drive; no problem. Extra couple of thousand dollars in travel; sign me up. .00001 chance to one day play professional soccer; my kids the one.
Club: "We care so much about your child we're going to let you drive 8 hours to Orlando, spend $200 in Gas, $400 in food, $600 in hotels, plus $150 dollars in fees, and $50 in tolls. This way they will be exposed to tons of scouts that surely watch every game. It's Disney. It will be like a vacation."
Parents: "Thank you sir, may I have another!"
US Club, US Youth, GA Soccer association make the drug that the clubs are pushing.
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 9, 2018 3:33:29 GMT -5
The clubs will have a hard time competing if parents decide that the level of competition is sub-par and look at alternatives. The problem is the Alphabet soup nature of soccer.. You have enough good quality teams in the Atlanta area to never have to leave the state. But Clubs want to get bigger and bigger so they create all of these leagues which are simply a means to market their club to pull kids from other clubs. More kids = more dollars. Keep the top teams in Atlanta here playing each other in a league. Then host a tournament, like State Cup, where teams earn spots to compete in a regional tournament, then advance to a national tournament. But playing teams in NC, FL, SC, etc. is like crack to parents. We eat it up. 5 hour drive; no problem. Extra couple of thousand dollars in travel; sign me up. .00001 chance to one day play professional soccer; my kids the one. Club: "We care so much about your child we're going to let you drive 8 hours to Orlando, spend $200 in Gas, $400 in food, $600 in hotels, plus $150 dollars in fees, and $50 in tolls. This way they will be exposed to tons of scouts that surely watch every game. It's Disney. It will be like a vacation." Parents: "Thank you sir, may I have another!" US Club, US Youth, GA Soccer association make the drug that the clubs are pushing. This so far has been my favorite post. I could not agree with you.
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Post by ga3v3 on May 9, 2018 5:35:23 GMT -5
The clubs will have a hard time competing if parents decide that the level of competition is sub-par and look at alternatives. The problem is the Alphabet soup nature of soccer.. You have enough good quality teams in the Atlanta area to never have to leave the state. But Clubs want to get bigger and bigger so they create all of these leagues which are simply a means to market their club to pull kids from other clubs. More kids = more dollars. Keep the top teams in Atlanta here playing each other in a league. Then host a tournament, like State Cup, where teams earn spots to compete in a regional tournament, then advance to a national tournament. But playing teams in NC, FL, SC, etc. is like crack to parents. We eat it up. 5 hour drive; no problem. Extra couple of thousand dollars in travel; sign me up. .00001 chance to one day play professional soccer; my kids the one. Club: "We care so much about your child we're going to let you drive 8 hours to Orlando, spend $200 in Gas, $400 in food, $600 in hotels, plus $150 dollars in fees, and $50 in tolls. This way they will be exposed to tons of scouts that surely watch every game. It's Disney. It will be like a vacation." Parents: "Thank you sir, may I have another!" US Club, US Youth, GA Soccer association make the drug that the clubs are pushing. Great post and very true! Just st to point out that the Peidmont conference was designed to help minimize travel and will be the same type of travel as the SCCL(Al,Sc). Being in a league with NC and SC now anytime that GA plays NC both teams will meet in SC(Greenville area). So GA teams will not have to drive very far and even closer drive than a lot of teams have to in Athena or Classic.
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Post by thip on May 9, 2018 8:12:14 GMT -5
I can give my personal experience with my daughter. She Played for a big 5 team from ages 13-16. We played RPL and traveled a lot. She went to a ton of ID camps, top drawer soccer camps etc, verbally committed to a DI school. The DI coach point blank on the phone told me that he wanted her playing ECNL so she was as prepared for DI soccer as possible her freshman year. She now is a Sophomore in college. played a lot as a freshman and had a good season. The money we spent on her on the front end helped get her a scholarship on the back end, so it was a push. As a parent we have to make a few decisions when it comes to soccer. for us it was what league/club gave her the best exposure to college coaches. Then next what competition was going to prepare her for college. Every child is different. We now have two other kids 12 and 14 that play and are also very good. However they don't have her passion, desire(they would rather play Fort Night). I have to push them to practice and workout. My wife and I are not willing to spend the money and time when they are not fully committed. So they train locally, play classic I and will attend ID camps, top drawer soccer ID camps etc in the future but no way would we commit to the travel schedule and money required for RPL/ECNL etc. Now if that changes than we adjust.
Don't let a club or team determine how much you will travel or spend or what league you will play in. We will all sacrifice anything for our kids but make sure its what they want. If they are working hard, train hard and really want it, then they should be playing against the best competition possible as that's how they will progress.
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Post by petrcechitout on May 9, 2018 9:28:22 GMT -5
As a parent of soccer and AAU Basketball kids, I don't have an unrealistic expectation that my kids will make it to the Professional level or even get a Division I scholarship. I do know there is a drop off in competition at each level and I would not want my kids on a high-level team and watch them get beat badly every weekend and finish at the bottom of the flight. That being said; the best thing for any 12, 13, 14 & 15-year-old is to be on the field or court playing and getting experience. If my child were to play 10 minutes a game for a DA Team, then I would rather them play 40 minutes a game on an ECNL team and so on down the line. Kids develop at different ages and it’s important to me that my kids enjoy the experience while getting quality coaching, quality practices, quality competition and quality game time. If those things are NOT happening, I would be surprised if they are having a positive experience. When my kids are 19 and older, they will not worry about what team they played when they were age 12, 13 and 14. :-) What they will remember is the overall experience and what it’s like to be on a team and depend on teammates, which is an irreplaceable learning experience in my opinion.
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