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Post by rocko1989 on May 21, 2018 12:15:16 GMT -5
Or, how they hand out jerseys to their players on the field before each game and then collect the jerseys back after the game. Yep, not shady at all.🙄 Played in a tournament against them and they had 3 #34’s on their team 😆 No doubt in honor of Herschel Walker.
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Post by mistergrinch on May 21, 2018 12:20:27 GMT -5
Played in a tournament against them and they had 3 #34’s on their team 😆 No doubt in honor of Herschel Walker. This one?
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Post by hateallthesechanges on May 21, 2018 13:21:36 GMT -5
Or, how they hand out jerseys to their players on the field before each game and then collect the jerseys back after the game. Yep, not shady at all.🙄 Played in a tournament against them and they had 3 #34’s on their team 😆 Their older boys do the handing out a box of jerseys too. In our game one received a red card. The ref went to write the jersey number down but that jersey number wasn't even on the roster. Asked the kid his name and he wasn't even on the roster. No one did anything about it. The refjust picked a name to assign the red card. It was a joke.
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Post by soccerdaddy on May 22, 2018 1:52:50 GMT -5
I’ll tell you what’s wrong with youth soccer and it has to do with the pay to play system. There’s no true pay to play development clubs that have the right development structure paths for U5 - U14. Here in the United States we “officially” start competing at U9 - U12 for Academy. Tell me which clubs focus on development and not winning? None of them. Each club is the best at developing right? Wrong, besides most MLS academies, our youth system is still pay to play and the results are measured by wins and losses at Academy and even up to U14/15 levels. For what? Return on investment? Children grow physically and mentally the most for these ages and if we don’t focus on technical/tactical at the early ages then all is lost by the time they are teens. Unfortunately, clubs advertise Win Loss Records because this is the only way they can market themselves, keep growing.
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Post by surgesoccer on May 22, 2018 6:27:16 GMT -5
A lot could be said about Pay to Play, but a little off subject for this post.
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Post by soccerdaddy on May 22, 2018 6:30:43 GMT -5
A lot could be said about Pay to Play, but a little off subject for this post. sorry, was looking at the title and it was late last night. 😃
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Post by girlsoccer on May 22, 2018 6:32:29 GMT -5
I’ll tell you what’s wrong with youth soccer and it has to do with the pay to play system. There’s no true pay to play development clubs that have the right development structure paths for U5 - U14. Here in the United States we “officially” start competing at U9 - U12 for Academy. Tell me which clubs focus on development and not winning? None of them. Each club is the best at developing right? Wrong, besides most MLS academies, our youth system is still pay to play and the results are measured by wins and losses at Academy and even up to U14/15 levels. For what? Return on investment? Children grow physically and mentally the most for these ages and if we don’t focus on technical/tactical at the early ages then all is lost by the time they are teens. Unfortunately, clubs advertise Win Loss Records because this is the only way they can market themselves, keep growing. To some degree we, the parents, have only ourselves to blame for that. An example that comes to mind is the girl’s pre-academy coach at NTH- North (old NASA). He used to run u9-10 academy with a major concentration on fundamentals, footwork, etc, used true pool play, put the kids in different positions and especially tried to put them in positions where they weren’t naturally comfortable, etc. and he still does that with pre academy. But with the u9-10s the parents got upset about not winning games and complained. We were playing against u9 teams that had set teams, set positions, etc. Because of the pressure to win- from the parents- gradually I’ve seen academy change (over the last 10 years or so) to concentrate more on W’s and L’s. I understand the desire for instant gratification and getting a win now but it has changed how the kids are developed.
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Post by surgesoccer on May 22, 2018 7:58:15 GMT -5
A lot could be said about Pay to Play, but a little off subject for this post. sorry, was looking at the title and it was late last night. 😃 Done that before.
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 22, 2018 8:46:51 GMT -5
I’ll tell you what’s wrong with youth soccer and it has to do with the pay to play system. There’s no true pay to play development clubs that have the right development structure paths for U5 - U14. Here in the United States we “officially” start competing at U9 - U12 for Academy. Tell me which clubs focus on development and not winning? None of them. Each club is the best at developing right? Wrong, besides most MLS academies, our youth system is still pay to play and the results are measured by wins and losses at Academy and even up to U14/15 levels. For what? Return on investment? Children grow physically and mentally the most for these ages and if we don’t focus on technical/tactical at the early ages then all is lost by the time they are teens. Unfortunately, clubs advertise Win Loss Records because this is the only way they can market themselves, keep growing. To some degree we, the parents, have only ourselves to blame for that. An example that comes to mind is the girl’s pre-academy coach at NTH- North (old NASA). He used to run u9-10 academy with a major concentration on fundamentals, footwork, etc, used true pool play, put the kids in different positions and especially tried to put them in positions where they weren’t naturally comfortable, etc. and he still does that with pre academy. But with the u9-10s the parents got upset about not winning games and complained. We were playing against u9 teams that had set teams, set positions, etc. Because of the pressure to win- from the parents- gradually I’ve seen academy change (over the last 10 years or so) to concentrate more on W’s and L’s. I understand the desire for instant gratification and getting a win now but it has changed how the kids are developed. It's been a while, but was that coach Ward?? If so, he was always in it for the kids.... don't even know if he's still around. There are still some pockets of good around. I know the small club one of my kids is at, still focuses on development over winning, with emphasis on fundamentals and footwork. But I don't think anyone uses true pool play anymore, which I don't think is as effective anyway.
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Post by girlsoccer on May 22, 2018 8:51:15 GMT -5
To some degree we, the parents, have only ourselves to blame for that. An example that comes to mind is the girl’s pre-academy coach at NTH- North (old NASA). He used to run u9-10 academy with a major concentration on fundamentals, footwork, etc, used true pool play, put the kids in different positions and especially tried to put them in positions where they weren’t naturally comfortable, etc. and he still does that with pre academy. But with the u9-10s the parents got upset about not winning games and complained. We were playing against u9 teams that had set teams, set positions, etc. Because of the pressure to win- from the parents- gradually I’ve seen academy change (over the last 10 years or so) to concentrate more on W’s and L’s. I understand the desire for instant gratification and getting a win now but it has changed how the kids are developed. It's been a while, but was that coach Ward?? If so, he was always in it for the kids.... don't even know if he's still around. There are still some pockets of good around. I know the small club one of my kids is at, still focuses on development over winning, with emphasis on fundamentals and footwork. But I don't think anyone uses true pool play anymore, which I don't think is as effective anyway. Yes that’s him. He’s still around and you are right- his focus is always on the kids.
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Post by soccerloafer on May 22, 2018 11:27:41 GMT -5
Ward was one of the good ones. Enjoyed coaching against him for a couple of years. Always knew we'd get clean, straightforward games of good soccer. He was passionate and enthusiastic. It was infectious.
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