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Post by RedDevil10 on Jun 5, 2018 13:02:45 GMT -5
At tryouts this morning and heard multiple parents saying if they don’t get the team they want they will wait until preseason camp to get a look from other clubs .
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Post by soccerballz on Jun 5, 2018 13:07:26 GMT -5
A parent's gotta do what a parent's gotta do
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Post by RedDevil10 on Jun 5, 2018 13:24:39 GMT -5
A parent's gotta do what a parent's gotta do I guess so Lol
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Post by greenmonkey on Jun 5, 2018 14:12:39 GMT -5
I would like to see more discussion about this. Last year my player accepted a position on a team regardless of level that the coach was clearly not going to be a good fit. But unfortunately we were naive and it was the only club she tried out at. Went under "the advice of council" and only tried out at one club looking to play for that one coach. Got a different offer same club different coach. Wish we had thought to say no thank you and waited around until fall or even winter break. Worse case player could have had a trainer all year and missed a year of coaching that was mismatched. Best case. Maybe a different coach or team or club needed a player by August, September, Etc.
There is no answer is there?
Just a lot of parents trying to do "what's best for the kid"
Good Luck Out There.
The only thing worse than U12 to U13 is U13 to U14.
Unless of course you have a kid in each age group.
Oye!
GM
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Post by be real on Jun 5, 2018 14:27:35 GMT -5
I would like to see more discussion about this. Last year my player accepted a position on a team regardless of level that the coach was clearly not going to be a good fit. But unfortunately we were naive and it was the only club she tried out at. Went under "the advice of council" and only tried out at one club looking to play for that one coach. Got a different offer same club different coach. Wish we had thought to say no thank you and waited around until fall or even winter break. Worse case player could have had a trainer all year and missed a year of coaching that was mismatched. Best case. Maybe a different coach or team or club needed a player by August, September, Etc. There is no answer is there? Just a lot of parents trying to do "what's best for the kid" Good Luck Out There. The only thing worse than U12 to U13 is U13 to U14. Unless of course you have a kid in each age group. Oye! GM Really depends on the level of the kid. There's always room for a kid that's a game changer. Happens all the time. If kid is not at that level, then it becomes harder but not impossible.
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Post by soccerlegacy on Jun 5, 2018 15:22:36 GMT -5
At tryouts this morning and heard multiple parents saying if they don’t get the team they want they will wait until preseason camp to get a look from other clubs . But you have to register and pay before preseason camp, correct?
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Post by be real on Jun 5, 2018 15:28:04 GMT -5
At tryouts this morning and heard multiple parents saying if they don’t get the team they want they will wait until preseason camp to get a look from other clubs . But you have to register and pay before preseason camp, correct? Only if you are already on the team. If not, then you are using the preseason to tryout.
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Post by spectator on Jun 5, 2018 15:54:04 GMT -5
Unsolicited and brutally honest BTDT advice from the one aged out of this craziness:
1. At U13-U14, size matters. Coaches will take the bigger players regardless if smaller ones are higher skilled. If your player is on the smaller side, go for an exceptional coach that concentrates on basic skills and footwork.
2. The studs at U13-U14 are rarely the game changers at U17-U18 and many may quit before then. Again, don't chase the level at this age, get a quality coach and team.
3. These are children 12 and 13 year olds who want to have a social life/school/etc. What you as a parent may think is 'best' for your kid may be that your version of 'elite is best " not what your kid wants. Also -see #2 above - it'll all pan out
4. This is youth soccer (pick your league d'jour - but the operative word is still YOUTH). This is an activity for your child not a tryout for the pros. It's not a consumer product you can return or demand an ROI for, this is your kid's recreation/hobby/passion/stuff he or she wants to do until they don't want to do it anymore. Dial it down a notch and let them navigate their path.
5. Not being on the top team at the club at U13 isn't the nail in the coffin forever that your kid will never have the chance to play in college if that's the desire. NCAA coaches really can't start officially recruiting until high school (Sophomore/Junior years - or earlier depending but legally, later) Let your 12-13 year old learn the skills now and not have to play catch up later.
6. Crazy and stressful as it is, enjoy the journey. You will actually miss this one day sooner than you think.
Best of luck to all of you and your kids this tryout week!
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Post by daddyo on Jun 5, 2018 20:52:12 GMT -5
Game Changers****** I've been coaching, and parenting soccer players for 20 years, I've only seen a few game changers and I can count them on one hand. I've seen some really Great solid soccer players, but Game changers, come on, Dominating at low levels of soccer don't make anyone a game changer. DV,AC of KSA,AU only game changers for those 00,01 age groups. Haven't seen one for 98-99 or 2002-2006 and I have 4 kids in the mix.
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Post by be real on Jun 5, 2018 21:31:16 GMT -5
Game Changers****** I've been coaching, and parenting soccer players for 20 years, I've only seen a few game changers and I can count them on one hand. I've seen some really Great solid soccer players, but Game changers, come on, Dominating at low levels of soccer don't make anyone a game changer. DV,AC of KSA,AU only game changers for those 00,01 age groups. Haven't seen one for 98-99 or 2002-2006 and I have 4 kids in the mix. Game changers impact the game. Don't have to be the second coming of Messi to impact a game. Not claiming those to be Ronaldo either. Each team has a couple of kids that are missed when they are not there. The flow of the game changes. They are game changers.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jun 5, 2018 22:11:29 GMT -5
Game Changers****** I've been coaching, and parenting soccer players for 20 years, I've only seen a few game changers and I can count them on one hand. I've seen some really Great solid soccer players, but Game changers, come on, Dominating at low levels of soccer don't make anyone a game changer. DV,AC of KSA,AU only game changers for those 00,01 age groups. Haven't seen one for 98-99 or 2002-2006 and I have 4 kids in the mix. 2003 AU squad has a few. One kid is injured. The other is national team player. One of the hurt players is flat out nasty - he’s from Charlotte.
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Post by daddyo on Jun 5, 2018 22:52:23 GMT -5
Lot of young national team players come out of Atlanta, How many players on the Older National Team?
Next two years will be a key indicator, 16/17 another big growth spurt for players. You never know what fruit will be in the basket.
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Post by daddyo on Jun 5, 2018 22:57:52 GMT -5
Atlanta is loaded with quality soccer players. You take a good solid player out of the line up and put a player in not up to par and a good opposing team will load that side, causing a drastic effect which can easily lead to a loss. I've seen it happen too many times, and good bad or indifferent, I applaud coaches that test their subs and place them in game situations when there play determines the outcome. I also tug my hair knowing that my kid's team just lost the game.
These lessons will travel with these boys for a lifetime.
It's soccer and it's beautiful!!
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Post by bluefedora on Jun 6, 2018 15:27:51 GMT -5
Unsolicited and brutally honest BTDT advice from the one aged out of this craziness: 1. At U13-U14, size matters. Coaches will take the bigger players regardless if smaller ones are higher skilled. If your player is on the smaller side, go for an exceptional coach that concentrates on basic skills and footwork. 2. The studs at U13-U14 are rarely the game changers at U17-U18 and many may quit before then. Again, don't chase the level at this age, get a quality coach and team. 3. These are children 12 and 13 year olds who want to have a social life/school/etc. What you as a parent may think is 'best' for your kid may be that your version of 'elite is best " not what your kid wants. Also -see #2 above - it'll all pan out 4. This is youth soccer (pick your league d'jour - but the operative word is still YOUTH). This is an activity for your child not a tryout for the pros. It's not a consumer product you can return or demand an ROI for, this is your kid's recreation/hobby/passion/stuff he or she wants to do until they don't want to do it anymore. Dial it down a notch and let them navigate their path. 5. Not being on the top team at the club at U13 isn't the nail in the coffin forever that your kid will never have the chance to play in college if that's the desire. NCAA coaches really can't start officially recruiting until high school (Sophomore/Junior years - or earlier depending but legally, later) Let your 12-13 year old learn the skills now and not have to play catch up later. 6. Crazy and stressful as it is, enjoy the journey. You will actually miss this one day sooner than you think. Best of luck to all of you and your kids this tryout week!
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Post by bluefedora on Jun 6, 2018 15:35:47 GMT -5
This may be the smartest post I have ever read here. Well said. I'm laughing at these parents this week running from club to club to do the "best" for their kid. My opinion is that for 90% of the kids, it's what gives the parent the bigger ego, not what is best for the kid.
I have no problem with trying a couple clubs, but just me personally, my kid is still a few years a way from even being considered for college. Her coach is awesome, her team respectful, she loves her teammates, and her coach has most Georgia college coaches on speed dial.
The funny thing is, many of these parents will spend $75,000 from U12-U18 in ECNL/DA counting the travel, flights, hotels, private trainers, summer camps, etc. Then the kid goes to a college that costs $40,000 minimum in tuition.
The kid could have stayed NL/RPL/NPL/High Athena A (if the coach has college coaches as connections), gotten a better package at a D2 college (several good D2 programs in Ga like CSU, UNG), and start 4 years in college and have no debt.......vs. sitting the bench for 4 years at an $80,000 a year school plus the $75,000 spent on keeping up with the joneses.
I agree, enjoy seeing your kid smile and build friendships.....or you run the risk of burning he/she out and spending all that money for nothing.
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Post by newposter on Jun 9, 2018 9:32:48 GMT -5
Heard coaching drama at older boys AFU ECNL. Anyone know details?
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Post by soccerdadf on Jun 9, 2018 13:07:28 GMT -5
I would expect there to be some level of drama at EVERY tryout. Probably different degrees of drama though.
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Post by newposter on Jun 9, 2018 14:03:24 GMT -5
I had heard the coach players at AFU thought they would have left to CF. Anyone know if this accurate?
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Post by quick on Jun 9, 2018 16:56:52 GMT -5
Anyone know how things shook out in South Atlanta? Concorde Fire South / AFC / MOBA? Didn't CFS get a new director? Does anyone know who it is?
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