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Post by mistergrinch on Jul 31, 2018 11:21:48 GMT -5
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Post by rifle on Jul 31, 2018 19:32:33 GMT -5
Did anyone think it was good for you?
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jul 31, 2018 21:28:15 GMT -5
Did anyone think it was good for you? Does anyone think it is good for you to repeatedly throw a ball 90mph? No, but people do it. I think there are two points here...one that there are changes visible on MRI in both men and women. Two, that the changes are worse in women. It isn't whether or not it is good for you as there are many things we do that aren't, but whether changes can be made to make things safer. Do concussion headbands help? Would waiting until high school to head the ball help? There is a point in the article where they state that there is a benefit to the brain to have regular exercise...where is the crossover point that heading causes more damage than the exercise benefit?
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Post by rifle on Aug 1, 2018 12:59:55 GMT -5
My $.02
If the problem is whiplash type of damage - the brain sloshing around in the skull - a "headband" device will have limited effectiveness.
I think heading a ball is bad for you. At 47, my memory is not fantastic. I partially attribute this to my Scottish HS soccer coach who got off on seeing his team head every punt, no matter what. And training for the same, ad (literal) nauseum.
I don't suggest eliminating heading soccer balls in soccer. I do think it's a good move to limit headed balls by little kids. I do fear that we'll continue to ignore good medical advice based on tradition.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Aug 1, 2018 18:00:01 GMT -5
My $.02 If the problem is whiplash type of damage - the brain sloshing around in the skull - a "headband" device will have limited effectiveness. I think heading a ball is bad for you. At 47, my memory is not fantastic. I partially attribute this to my Scottish HS soccer coach who got off on seeing his team head every punt, no matter what. And training for the same, ad (literal) nauseum. I don't suggest eliminating heading soccer balls in soccer. I do think it's a good move to limit headed balls by little kids. I do fear that we'll continue to ignore good medical advice based on tradition. I am not convinced that concussion headbands are helpful either. I don't think they are particularly helpful for concussions OR the repetitive microtrauma of heading. I was just saying it should be studied. Also all of these people they studied did not play with the new heading rules or concussion awareness so new people have to be recruited to be followed up later. It will take years to figure out what is safe and what is not.
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Post by girlsoccer on Aug 2, 2018 7:50:57 GMT -5
I agree whole-heartedly with this article. There are several other smaller studies, including one on high school students that all agree there are cognitive and structural changes (as demonstrated by MRI) with chronic low level subconcussive trauma from heading the ball. I’ve discouraged my girls from heading and even taken some flack from coaches but I truly believe it is detrimental in the long run. It is hard to know where to draw the line between how much heading is too much. I believe it is likely quite variable from person to person.
Regarding headbands- there is no evidence, to my knowledge, that they would mitigate any of the damage from this chronic low level trauma.
Personally, I cringe every time I see a kid head a goal kick or a punt...
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Post by atlfutboldad on Aug 2, 2018 10:40:09 GMT -5
Personally, I cringe every time I see a kid head a goal kick or a punt...
Agreed. 1 - Its REALLY dangerous, 2 - You're turning a ball you can possess into a 50/50 ball again.
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