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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 16, 2018 15:22:39 GMT -5
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Sept 10, 2018 11:23:09 GMT -5
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Post by daddyo on Sept 10, 2018 16:39:53 GMT -5
Bello has always been a straight up stud. The only knock I ever saw on him was his work rate in Practice before joining AU but TA quickly turned that around.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Sept 10, 2018 16:47:24 GMT -5
I had heard that from others more familiar with him, do you think he was just bored, wasn't being challenged by his coaches or just felt like he could turn it on if and when he needed to? Akin to a truly gifted kid in school, who is leaps ahead of his peers?
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Post by rifle on Sept 10, 2018 18:51:40 GMT -5
Good luck George. Go man go.
Glad AU has him under contract so he won’t go without a transfer fee. Sad that USSF steals the training compensation money and Ambush and other clubs won’t get a thing.
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Post by daddyo on Sept 11, 2018 20:59:18 GMT -5
It was at Ambush but the coach running the sessions was not Eristavi. He was constantly on GB to move at game speed, which GB simply ignored. Fortunately, the other kids, including my son, heeded his warnings.
The only way to address would of been pull him to the side, clarify your expectations and tell him if you don't comply you sit on the sidelines until you buy into the program. It reminded me of Allen Iverson ; )
Either way, GB is the nicest kid on the planet and when he flipped his switch, no one could stop him.
Also, Eristavi is the nicest guy on the pitch. Too bad his handicapped by the 50% from Alpharetta rule. He does need to clamp down on his training sessions, which you are correct soccerworld, they can become comical. His personal training = priceless, he still works the ball better than most 14yr olds.
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Post by gaprospects on Sept 11, 2018 22:19:53 GMT -5
Good luck George. Go man go. Glad AU has him under contract so he won’t go without a transfer fee. Sad that USSF steals the training compensation money and Ambush and other clubs won’t get a thing. Not taking the bait on the "stealing" comment, but this does raise an interesting question when it comes to training compensation. Ambush is run by the Alpharetta City Parks and Rec department. Should a city government be allowed to be a beneficiary of a theoretical portion of a transfer fee for a soccer player? There's no guarantee that money would go back into the Ambush program and not into some other city initiative, or even the mayor's next installment payment on his recently-acquired yacht.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 12, 2018 8:47:29 GMT -5
I guess at least the money would be "local" vs padding Don Garber's or Carlos Cordeiro's wallet.
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Post by rifle on Sept 12, 2018 16:25:38 GMT -5
Good luck George. Go man go. Glad AU has him under contract so he won’t go without a transfer fee. Sad that USSF steals the training compensation money and Ambush and other clubs won’t get a thing. Not taking the bait on the "stealing" comment, but this does raise an interesting question when it comes to training compensation. Ambush is run by the Alpharetta City Parks and Rec department. Should a city government be allowed to be a beneficiary of a theoretical portion of a transfer fee for a soccer player? There's no guarantee that money would go back into the Ambush program and not into some other city initiative, or even the mayor's next installment payment on his recently-acquired yacht. It is not bait. It is a structural handicap that our federation places on clubs. For the benefit of a handful of NFL owners. You can “what if” any topic into the ground. Meanwhile, more of the same. And that’s not good enough.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Sept 12, 2018 18:13:18 GMT -5
I think any notion of training fees are moot if parents are footing the bill. If a club pays the kid (scholarship) I could KINDA see it. 99% of the clubs in this country aren't like the MLS clubs though. Frankly I don't understand the concept though, would be like NFL money going to a high school and college if a kid gets drafted.
Unless someone is suggesting that ther hundreds of clubs offer free training to the millions of boys who want to play soccer...in the hopes they might have a player who goes pro.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 12, 2018 19:22:12 GMT -5
The difference here is FIFA has regulations with regards to training compensation and apparently Gulati's stance was that training compensation in the US would be against federal law? ( I might have miss quoted him, but at the presidential elections, he mentioned something about this)
either way, the details could be worked out on how compensation is actually awarded to clubs where parents paid their way through the entire process. The issue is right now all the non-MLS clubs have zero incentive to subsidize fees or reduce costs as they have very little to gain. Kid can play at your club for 12 years and play for an academy for 1 season and they are homegrown and all the recognition goes to the MLS club. I always make it a point to try to retweet the local club, but feel like I'm always an A** when I do it.
I think we are near toxic tipping point, the $$ and price to play is getting out of control in my opinion. I guess the reality is if your very good or more importantly perceived as being very good, you don't pay squat while everyone else pays thousands.
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Post by gaprospects on Sept 12, 2018 21:34:28 GMT -5
Not taking the bait on the "stealing" comment, but this does raise an interesting question when it comes to training compensation. Ambush is run by the Alpharetta City Parks and Rec department. Should a city government be allowed to be a beneficiary of a theoretical portion of a transfer fee for a soccer player? There's no guarantee that money would go back into the Ambush program and not into some other city initiative, or even the mayor's next installment payment on his recently-acquired yacht. It is not bait. It is a structural handicap that our federation places on clubs. For the benefit of a handful of NFL owners. You can “what if” any topic into the ground. Meanwhile, more of the same. And that’s not good enough. Never said it wasn't a structural handicap, that's extremely obvious and something that hopefully will be addressed. But there's never been any evidence that USSF is pocketing those fees or that they're being redirected to "a handful of NFL owners." Which is funny, because MLS and USSF are not the same thing and have very dissimilar goals, so which sinister entity is to blame in your conspiracy theory? Look, these issues aren't simple and they aren't solved by a simple black or white answer. You can recognize that training compensation would be a massive benefit to the current system without being a magic bullet that ends pay-to-play. You can also realize that implementing that compensation would be a complex problem in itself, otherwise how are you going to solve those potential issues when they arise? The longer people want to just bicker and lob baseless accusations at "the man" without actually coming up with any solutions, the farther we'll be from actually fixing anything.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Sept 12, 2018 21:49:49 GMT -5
I get your point, but if anyone should be compensated for a kid whose parents paid the whole way... it should be the parents. Also, my kid has played at 4 clubs... who would be compensated? How far back does it go?
In other countries you sign contracts with a club, here you're doing one year at a time. Basically all our kids are 1- year free agents.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 12, 2018 22:06:56 GMT -5
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Post by rifle on Sept 13, 2018 6:01:18 GMT -5
IME club soccer is largely an “under the table” financial operation. Deliberately unaccountable. Changing THAT would require serious organization and will. I tend to agree that in pay-to-play, parents should be paid back if a large transfer “compensation” payment happens. I do not think there is any reason to give up on the thought exercise at that point. Edit: This story from a real reporter (not an MLS marketing guy) notes that MLS took the payment www.si.com/planet-futbol/2015/06/29/us-soccer-youth-club-compensation-crossfire-deandre-yedlin-mls-fifa
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Post by atlfutboldad on Sept 13, 2018 13:54:38 GMT -5
I'm curious how much private training occurs in other countries. In this country, if you're an elite player, you likely are doing 1-2 private training sessions a week.
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