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Post by newposter on Aug 25, 2018 22:26:52 GMT -5
Who do you predict will be top 1 or 2 team in each girls and boys ECNL age? Fun to go back after the season and compare.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 28, 2018 16:44:28 GMT -5
Sorry to hijack your thread but one field of soccer I am clueless on are the costs associated with ECNL. The little that I know if from casual conversations with some parents. How are the costs compared to DA/GDA? What are the costs associated and are they similar to DA/GDA. I would venture a guess and say TH is the most expensive and AFU/GSA are the cheapest. Is that influenced by travel and why since all 4/5 local teams would play the same schedule? Will sit back and let the experts chime in. I may have some follow-up questions based on your responses.
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Post by cantgetright on Aug 28, 2018 18:14:42 GMT -5
Much more. Parents are required to travel.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Aug 28, 2018 18:55:53 GMT -5
Parents can share travel. In some instances club will charter buses. Our fees are club fees plus $700 which cover showcase and tourney entry fees and coach travel fees.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Aug 28, 2018 19:47:03 GMT -5
Parents can share travel. In some instances club will charter buses. Our fees are club fees plus $700 which cover showcase and tourney entry fees and coach travel fees. What about the travel fees for the player? Nearly of your games are out of town. There are costs to going to Boca and Tampa and Orlando and Jacksonville etc.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 28, 2018 20:38:58 GMT -5
The ECNL world intrigues me, because it is something I have no clue or insights into, other than what others like you all tell me... So tell me more?
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 28, 2018 20:59:40 GMT -5
Time out — the Gawdess knows all!!!
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Post by atlfutboldad on Aug 28, 2018 23:10:09 GMT -5
From my research, at AFU I believe the club fee is the same for ECNL as it is for the other select ages (Elite/Athena A at least). Around $1500. From looking at schedules they play about 13 games in the fall, roughly 6 weekends, 3 of which are in georgia. So 3 weekends out of state for the regular schedule plus tournaments/showcases which I don't know anything about.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 29, 2018 5:57:07 GMT -5
Does anyone know how the showcases and tournament schedule is determined? At certain ages do they skip certain showcases due to distance. Example - skipping a west coast showcase at U13/U14 and instead going to one closer to home?
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Post by atv on Aug 29, 2018 8:03:02 GMT -5
Pretty much all the ECNL stuff is consolidated into one season per year. All above plus showcases which replace tournaments you would go to at the younger age groups. The national events are typically based on standings.
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Post by cantgetright on Aug 29, 2018 8:25:22 GMT -5
ECNl fees of 1695. Travel fees 700.00 covers tournament fees and coaches. Then fees for traveling to Miami, Tampa, Orlando, Jacksonville, Oklahoma, Sanford, Jefferson Cup. A parent is responsible for their own child. Add up flights for at least 2 to all of those places and hotel/rental car and we are probably talking 6-7K for travel plus the above fees.
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Post by surgesoccer on Aug 29, 2018 9:32:58 GMT -5
I did a calculation of annual cost for our SCCL team including club fees, tournament fees, travel (Hotels, gas and food), coaches expenses and it came to right at $4,000. Add in State Cup or NPL/SCCL tournament and you're at $4,400. Make it to regionals and you're now up to $4,800. Of the $4800 const Disney is about $1,200, which represents 25% of the annual cost.
Easiest way to save money is to stop doing Disney.
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Post by fanatic21 on Aug 29, 2018 9:34:03 GMT -5
U13s/U14s girls did Showcase in Greenville/CESA/MESA Complex last year. We drove for that trip and Jacksonville (regular season). We did 2 other out of town tourneys that were further away, so we flew to those and had two regular season fixtures in Orlando/Tampa area and flew for those as well, so 4 total flights. Overall travel likely was probably about 5K. And unlike DA, that total cost did include parent(s).
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 29, 2018 10:19:02 GMT -5
I did a calculation of annual cost for our SCCL team including club fees, tournament fees, travel (Hotels, gas and food), coaches expenses and it came to right at $4,000. Add in State Cup or NPL/SCCL tournament and you're at $4,400. Make it to regionals and you're now up to $4,800. Of the $4800 const Disney is about $1,200, which represents 25% of the annual cost. Easiest way to save money is to stop doing Disney. I agree with you. However, based on the agreement between SCCL and Disney, that will not occur anytime soon. I wonder if the clubs gets a kickback? Have to look into that. Either way, I am glad my kids are no longer obligated to go see Mickey every November/December. On another note, in looking at the SCCL schedule I see each local team will have a two game weekend away in Alabama. Do you all have to stay at the same hotel like a Disney or is it every family for themselves?
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Post by soccergurl on Aug 29, 2018 12:06:16 GMT -5
Funny I would get back on the forum and I see this post about ECNL. I am clueless on both DA for girls and ECNL. My kids will soon be of age, which way should I direct them to go. Now they may not be good enough to make the team but just in case what would ya'l do? Thanks
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Post by surgesoccer on Aug 29, 2018 12:31:01 GMT -5
I did a calculation of annual cost for our SCCL team including club fees, tournament fees, travel (Hotels, gas and food), coaches expenses and it came to right at $4,000. Add in State Cup or NPL/SCCL tournament and you're at $4,400. Make it to regionals and you're now up to $4,800. Of the $4800 const Disney is about $1,200, which represents 25% of the annual cost. Easiest way to save money is to stop doing Disney. I agree with you. However, based on the agreement between SCCL and Disney, that will not occur anytime soon. I wonder if the clubs gets a kickback? Have to look into that. Either way, I am glad my kids are no longer obligated to go see Mickey every November/December. On another note, in looking at the SCCL schedule I see each local team will have a two game weekend away in Alabama. Do you all have to stay at the same hotel like a Disney or is it every family for themselves? I've heard the club may try to schedule all of the teams at the same hotel but nothing directly from the club. It would be cool to do it like that if they pick a good hotel. Also for teams that have a early game they will need to stay over Friday and Saturday. Our game is late enough in the day that we will drive over on Saturday.
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Post by fanatic21 on Aug 29, 2018 12:59:48 GMT -5
Funny I would get back on the forum and I see this post about ECNL. I am clueless on both DA for girls and ECNL. My kids will soon be of age, which way should I direct them to go. Now they may not be good enough to make the team but just in case what would ya'l do? Thanks My daughter made both DA and ECNL teams this year, and she/we chose to play ECNL. Decision was based on a number of factors. Where she felt comfortable (likes her teammates and coach), # of players on the team (her team has 15, we were told DA team was going to carry 18 - think they actually have more than that now), practice location (DA team she considered playing for practiced 15 minutes+ further away), and sub rules (ECNL sub rules definitely more favorable for players - if they get subbed out in the first half, they get to go back in - I know u13/u14 DA just changed to unlimited subs, but 3 moments is still relatively limited, espeically with a large roster). Not 100% sure, but I think the competition in her age group is actually going to be better in ECNL - there were lots of blowouts in Girls DA last year. Would be nice to have every game filmed and reviewed by US soccer (think DA does that, correct), but other than that, she/we are happy with the decision so far.
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Post by ultimatedad on Aug 30, 2018 13:19:09 GMT -5
I predict that Concorde Fire and TopHat will struggle in the first week due to talent dilution from DA and SCCL.
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Post by randomparent on Aug 30, 2018 13:27:25 GMT -5
On the boys side there is a fair amount of travel, which everyone knew going into it. I think most people consider Mirimar (Miami) to be a ridiculous location for a regular season game (they got added this year). I can't imagine putting myself in the parents shoes of the Miami ECNL team and every game for them is 5+ hours (what would you guess their travel costs are). In the end though there are more than enough good teams in Atlanta to need all of this. It is pretty disappointing there is not better leadership at the clubs around Atlanta to not get their act together, I guess that is what the SCCL is for once it gets a more solid footing.
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Post by allthingsoccer on Aug 30, 2018 15:49:03 GMT -5
ECNL friend told me they dropped around $10k
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Post by soccerpsych on Aug 30, 2018 16:54:09 GMT -5
Having been a parent involved with both DA and ECNL, the costs are fairly equivalent, other than the DA schedule lasting the whole year and ECNL primarily running through the Fall. Regardless, any involvement with RPL/Piedmont, ECNL or DA is an expensive proposition.
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Post by touchlinedad on Aug 31, 2018 8:36:54 GMT -5
I was told by a CF ECNL parent that it cost $10,000-$12,000. When you see numbers like that for one season, I think of Hope Solo's recent comments and think she's onto something.
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 3, 2018 17:33:20 GMT -5
I was told by a CF ECNL parent that it cost $10,000-$12,000. When you see numbers like that for one season, I think of Hope Solo's recent comments and think she's onto something. My friend last year told me they had spent 10k in ECNL and the spring season wasn't even over yet and they still had showcases to go to. DA players traveling/staying together cuts a lot of the costs down. Not saying DA is cheap but I feel that ECNL is more expensive
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Post by zizou on Sept 4, 2018 8:11:21 GMT -5
10K for all team fees plus travel? That is about right. If they make the National event at end of season that is extra expense. If we wanted to drive to the distant trips it would be less money but more time and stress. This year could be better because ECNL added a showcase in Greenville which means we won't be going to one of the Western showcases. Huge savings.
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 4, 2018 8:18:08 GMT -5
10K for all team fees plus travel? That is about right. If they make the National event at end of season that is extra expense. If we wanted to drive to the distant trips it would be less money but more time and stress. This year could be better because ECNL added a showcase in Greenville which means we won't be going to one of the Western showcases. Huge savings. Oh no, he spent 10k himself. Not the whole team. But im sure he traveled to every trip and they did 3 showcases
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Post by zizou on Sept 4, 2018 8:21:13 GMT -5
10K for all team fees plus travel? That is about right. If they make the National event at end of season that is extra expense. If we wanted to drive to the distant trips it would be less money but more time and stress. This year could be better because ECNL added a showcase in Greenville which means we won't be going to one of the Western showcases. Huge savings. Oh no, he spent 10k himself. Not the whole team. But im sure he traveled to every trip and they did 3 showcases That is what I meant - 10K for the player to play in league for a year and family travel.
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 4, 2018 8:31:43 GMT -5
Oh no, he spent 10k himself. Not the whole team. But im sure he traveled to every trip and they did 3 showcases That is what I meant - 10K for the player to play in league for a year and family travel. Ahhh ok. I know its Tuesday but it feels like a Monday lol
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Post by soccerparent02 on Sept 5, 2018 14:05:28 GMT -5
anyone have predictions? Let's get back to the topic.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Sept 5, 2018 14:07:41 GMT -5
After the first full weekend, any predictions? Which team(s) surprised good or not as good? Girls or boys...
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