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Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 29, 2018 12:45:40 GMT -5
Got a question about GA soccer rules.
The opposing coach was sent off by the Referee today in a Classic II game. A parent took over that does not have a player pass nor is he on the game cards. Our coach believes that any person that takes over has to be on the game card and have a player pass in order to continue the game otherwise the game must be stopped.
I'm looking through the GA soccer rules and I don't see it but I may be overlooking it.
Anyone know the rule on this and if this is protestable if it was handled incorrectly by the Referee?
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 29, 2018 12:53:16 GMT -5
GA Soccer won't waste their time with that it's literally unenforceable. They will deal with the red card and that will be the end of it.
Every team would need to have two certified people on the sidelines for every game in the event a coach gets ejected, that's not feasible. My team managers have a player pass as well in the event of an extreme emergency, what if they aren't at the game that day?
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 29, 2018 13:19:42 GMT -5
The problem is they had 4 people listed and I believe the team manager was there but did not go to the bench. She just sat on the parent sideline.
I think the ref was out of her element on all that and likely didn't know the rules though.
I doubt our coach protests it but I assume it will be in the coach report. I agree I doubt GA soccer would enforce it anyway.
The other issue is the coach really didn't leave the fields. He even went back be talked to the team after the game while the referees were still present which I know is against the rules.
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Post by rifle on Sept 29, 2018 13:49:45 GMT -5
Why did the coach get ejected?
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Post by ultimatedad on Sept 29, 2018 15:10:25 GMT -5
Not to be devisive but why do you care if a parent came out to coach? You might realy theropy.
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Post by ultimatedad on Sept 29, 2018 15:14:05 GMT -5
Need
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Post by paterfamilias on Sept 29, 2018 15:36:02 GMT -5
Honestly let it go.
If your team won, that's great.
If your team lost, it takes away from focusing on what is ahead at the next practice, game etc
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 29, 2018 17:50:21 GMT -5
Why did the coach get ejected? Arguing with referee after she asked him to stop, then told him to stop,(2 warnings), then he continued anyway so he was ejected. The call in question was technically the right call. The keeper blocked/played the player instead of playing the ball close to the goal. He essentially body checked the striker to keep him from getting to the ball. Technically the ref should have given a card for that as well but didn't.
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Post by alacrity174 on Oct 1, 2018 13:01:38 GMT -5
Are you a referee or Team Manager as you seem to have asked a question yet are providing answers.
The coach who was ejected should have left sight and sound of the game, but can come back after the final whistle as long as they don't try to engage with the ref again.
On the call I would say unless it was DOGSO by the keeper a yellow would have sufficed. All cards are "in the decision of the referee", according to FIFA LoTG.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Oct 1, 2018 15:00:07 GMT -5
Are you a referee or Team Manager as you seem to have asked a question yet are providing answers. The coach who was ejected should have left sight and sound of the game, but can come back after the final whistle as long as they don't try to engage with the ref again. On the call I would say unless it was DOGSO by the keeper a yellow would have sufficed. All cards are "in the decision of the referee", according to FIFA LoTG. I didn't ask any questions about the play in question. I am well versed in GA Soccer and FIFA LoTG. One of my kids is a referee and I do volunteer as AR occasionally when needing a person. I asked only about GA Soccer rules and regulations about who a valid coach can be for a team in the event a coach is ejected. That was answered that even if a rule it is unenforceable, so my question was answered. Other people asked why the person was ejected, I answered their question.I already know the majority of the rules, I was just asking about the gray area of having the person taking over not having a player/coach pass issued. The coach did violate the rules, as he did not leave the sight and sound of the fields and stayed nestled behind the parents silently. The rules also state the referees must have left the fields before he is allowed to come back to the field. He violated both rules. I never asked questions about that. I was asking only about the other stuff about who took over the game for that team as coach.
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Post by soccerloafer on Oct 1, 2018 15:20:29 GMT -5
As a referee and rational person, my goal is to complete the game to the best of my ability because there are 30+ kids there who want to play. If the team can provide an adult to manage subs and act like an adult, whether they are rostered or not, I would continue the game if I felt I could do so safely. No reason to let one jack wagon ruin a game for the 30+ kids who are behaving.
That might not be the 'rule' but I'd prefer to leave the discipline to the league / club / state, whatever.
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Post by Southside Soccer on Oct 3, 2018 13:52:45 GMT -5
First, under TLOTG a coach is never "sent off". That is reserved for players and subs. A coach is actually "dismissed". Technical point for laymen I realize but if you are asking for specifics on rules you may also want to know the actual terminology for dealing with coaches.
Ga Soccer Youth Rules require for their to be an Adult present as coach at all times and also identified to the referee and serving as Coach for any game to be started or continue to be played. Ideally, this should be another registered team official such as asst coach or manager, but this is not a requirement. If there is no other team official available to assume coach duties then any adult who is willing to do so can handle the role can do so. It does not have to be an adult associated with the team in question. Refs are instructed to ask these sub coaches for a picture id such as driver license so that ref has a name should the ref have to also deal with the sub coaches later misbehavior as well.
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