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Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 28, 2019 11:13:18 GMT -5
Anyone else seen the new highschool pk format. Is it universal across all high school levels?
Format was team A & B 1)A B 2)B A 3)A B 4)B A 5)A B
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Post by Strikermom on Feb 28, 2019 12:17:46 GMT -5
Taken from the GHSA rule book
1. The overtime will consist of one (1) fifteen-minute period, which will be played in its entirety. 2. A coin toss shall take place to determine which team will put the ball in play first. 3. If the score remains tied following the overtime period, a “shootout” of penalty kicks will determine the winner. 4. The head referee shall choose the goal at which the penalty kicks will be taken. 5. Each coach will select any five (5) eligible players (including goalkeeper) to take the kicks. 6. A coin toss shall be held with the team winning the toss having the choice of kicking first or last in the first round. 7. Teams will then alternate kickers in an A-B-B-A rotation, and there is no follow up on the kicks.
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Post by Keeper on Feb 28, 2019 13:04:56 GMT -5
Yep dealt with it like two weeks ago in a non region game. Seemed pointless and confusing but that’s expected for Georgia. Not sure why any game other then playoffs need to go to overtime or PKs. Oh the best part too, was that the coach can send any player to take a PK and not just one from the 11 on the field.
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Post by soccerloafer on Feb 28, 2019 16:47:37 GMT -5
This was discussed at a recent USSF Referee Recert. Apparently the data shows there is some advantage to the team that kicks first, so they were experimenting with ways to even the playing field. Didn't know the HS folks were giving it a try.
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Post by hokesmyth on Mar 1, 2019 14:56:52 GMT -5
The HS soccer idiots always think they have great ideas to improve the game. I know they don't, and they've proved it.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 1, 2019 18:20:27 GMT -5
The HS soccer idiots always think they have great ideas to improve the game. I know they don't, and they've proved it. The ABBA format was recently used at high level competitions for PROFESSIONAL soccer. This is not a high school idea. FIFA and other member institutions (UEFA, Concacaf, etc) often try out new ideas before instituting them as an official rule change. The ABBA format was recently one of these. Currently the She Believes Cup is trialing allowing goal kicks to be live inside the box for both teams. This is how they decide whether a rule change is a good idea. If you are old enough you know the keepers used to have different rules than they do now.
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Post by guest on Mar 2, 2019 10:21:53 GMT -5
Yep dealt with it like two weeks ago in a non region game. Seemed pointless and confusing but that’s expected for Georgia. Not sure why any game other then playoffs need to go to overtime or PKs. Oh the best part too, was that the coach can send any player to take a PK and not just one from the 11 on the field. We also had a game decided by Kicks From The Mark (since they’re not really PKs) about two weeks ago. Being a rule reader (not laws mind you since it’s not FIFA), I knew about the new ABBA process. We were tied after the first 5. Team A made their 6th. The PA announced “And now Team B will have two kicks”. We missed our first attempt and that was it. Refs, players, fans all just kind of sat there not knowing what to do. Only the home coach ran out on the field yelling that’s it. After a brief huddle the ref agreed and called the match. Many in the stands who didn’t know (can’t blame them too much for not knowing) were up in arms. “We’re supposed to get two!”. Weird ending but correct according to the rule. Still, nothing beats 2 man Braveheart as the most exciting way to end a game (Lacrosse).
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Post by rocko1989 on Mar 2, 2019 10:41:58 GMT -5
Yep dealt with it like two weeks ago in a non region game. Seemed pointless and confusing but that’s expected for Georgia. Not sure why any game other then playoffs need to go to overtime or PKs. Oh the best part too, was that the coach can send any player to take a PK and not just one from the 11 on the field. We also had a game decided by Kicks From The Mark (since they’re not really PKs) about two weeks ago. Being a rule reader (not laws mind you since it’s not FIFA), I knew about the new ABBA process. We were tied after the first 5. Team A made their 6th. The PA announced “And now Team B will have two kicks”. We missed our first attempt and that was it. Refs, players, fans all just kind of sat there not knowing what to do. Only the home coach ran out on the field yelling that’s it. After a brief huddle the ref agreed and called the match. Many in the stands who didn’t know (can’t blame them too much for not knowing) were up in arms. “We’re supposed to get two!”. Weird ending but correct according to the rule. Still, nothing beats 2 man Braveheart as the most exciting way to end a game (Lacrosse). While the refs should know the rules, the announcer was the one that made the confusing announcement. Obviously the refs cannot address the crowd when the announcer makes his/her statements. If the officials heard the announcement, it would have benefited them to let the teams know the situation. Can't blame the fans really for being confused. The procedure is not all that difficult to understand, so there is no reason officials (that attended a training event where it was discussed) cannot understand and get it right. In reading the above post with the announcer, did Team A shoot first in round 6, or did Team B? I ask, because the pattern is supposed to continue after the first 5 kicks. 1.AB 2.BA 3.AB 4.BA 5.AB 6.BA and so on, and so on.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 2, 2019 14:35:45 GMT -5
The HS soccer idiots always think they have great ideas to improve the game. I know they don't, and they've proved it. www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/what-abba-penalty-shootout-format-10940666.ampHere is an article about the use of this format in PRO soccer recently. The format is not a dumb idea. However, I must agree with other posters that it is unnecessary to do kicks from the mark to decide a regular season game. Overtime should be sufficient and end in a draw if no winners after the OT. Only in playoffs should it be necessary
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Post by soccerparent02 on Mar 2, 2019 16:11:12 GMT -5
They only use this to decide region games and playoffs.
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Post by rocko1989 on Mar 2, 2019 16:36:41 GMT -5
They only use this to decide region games and playoffs. And non-region games between teams of the same classification. GHSA wants a winner in those circumstances as well.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 2, 2019 20:11:30 GMT -5
Yep dealt with it like two weeks ago in a non region game. Seemed pointless and confusing but that’s expected for Georgia. Not sure why any game other then playoffs need to go to overtime or PKs. Oh the best part too, was that the coach can send any player to take a PK and not just one from the 11 on the field. We also had a game decided by Kicks From The Mark (since they’re not really PKs) about two weeks ago. Being a rule reader (not laws mind you since it’s not FIFA), I knew about the new ABBA process. We were tied after the first 5. Team A made their 6th. The PA announced “And now Team B will have two kicks”. We missed our first attempt and that was it. Refs, players, fans all just kind of sat there not knowing what to do. Only the home coach ran out on the field yelling that’s it. After a brief huddle the ref agreed and called the match. Many in the stands who didn’t know (can’t blame them too much for not knowing) were up in arms. “We’re supposed to get two!”. Weird ending but correct according to the rule. Still, nothing beats 2 man Braveheart as the most exciting way to end a game (Lacrosse). Wait a sec, you ended after Round 6? We went another five rounds. So it was best of Round one, both teams still tied. Then they made us go through another Round of five. It was never sudden death. 2 Man Braveheart??? Uhh yeah I’m so looking that up on YouTube now!
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Post by coachcc on Mar 5, 2019 8:59:04 GMT -5
Yea, it's suppose to be sudden death after 5, so if y'all did another best of 5 it was done incorrectly.
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