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Post by georgiasoccer411 on Apr 12, 2019 17:44:53 GMT -5
Which clubs are supposedly joint SCCL 2? Is it official? Nothing is "official" but I did hear AFU was approved. Some other local clubs have applied but they haven't been accepted yet. So a fishing expedition. Put the bait out there and see who begs the most.
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 12, 2019 17:48:01 GMT -5
Nothing is "official" but I did hear AFU was approved. Some other local clubs have applied but they haven't been accepted yet. So a fishing expedition. Put the bait out there and see who begs the most. I don't see it as bait, the application is there for anyone to apply. Do you expect them to accept everyone?
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on Apr 12, 2019 17:51:46 GMT -5
(I am a nobody so please forgive the potential naive post) Has the Executive Director of Georgia Soccer gone to the Executive Directors of the Big 6 Clubs and offered them a better deal than US Club? As in, MUCH lower cost offering than what US Club is giving the Big 6. Please tell me that has occurred. I would hate to see Georgia Soccer go down without a fight. Fifty years of history washed away because one executive director did not pull out all the stops. Please tell me that's not happening. This was an ongoing issue for years. The big 5 complained and no one did anything. Now that they left they're trying to get them back, but it may be too late Too funny. Please save the excuses for someone that will believe them. Let me make this simple, if this was about “on-going issues” then the Big 5, soon to be Big 6, got their message achieved with Division 1 of SCCL. But the real truth is this is about money. The Big 5 founders of SCCL are saving money with SCCL and will make money off of every little club that gets added to SCCL 2, SCCL 3, SCCL 4 and SCCL 5. Frankly good for them, but it’s not for the good of the game or the good of competition.
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Post by insideinfo on Apr 12, 2019 18:07:56 GMT -5
This was an ongoing issue for years. The big 5 complained and no one did anything. Now that they left they're trying to get them back, but it may be too late Too funny. Please save the excuses for someone that will believe them. Let me make this simple, if this was about “on-going issues” then the Big 5, soon to be Big 6, got their message achieved with Division 1 of SCCL. But the real truth is this is about money. The Big 5 founders of SCCL are saving money with SCCL and will make money off of every little club that gets added to SCCL 2, SCCL 3, SCCL 4 and SCCL 5. Frankly good for them, but it’s not for the good of the game or the good of competition. We get it, your club was left out and probably will for a while. I remember last year how much it bothered you when it was created.
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Post by soccerlegacy on Apr 12, 2019 18:12:41 GMT -5
For grits and shiggles, and purely for our own entertainment, I will again pose the question I asked earlier...
My question now is:
If this happens, are the 3 current out-of-town clubs (BUSA, CESA, VHSA) going to be joining the SCCL 2, etc? If so, that could make for some farther travel for people. If not, they are not included, then do they get an automatic spot in the top division or exemption from the pro/reg that would happen?
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 12, 2019 18:14:38 GMT -5
This was an ongoing issue for years. The big 5 complained and no one did anything. Now that they left they're trying to get them back, but it may be too late Too funny. Please save the excuses for someone that will believe them. Let me make this simple, if this was about “on-going issues” then the Big 5, soon to be Big 6, got their message achieved with Division 1 of SCCL. But the real truth is this is about money. The Big 5 founders of SCCL are saving money with SCCL and will make money off of every little club that gets added to SCCL 2, SCCL 3, SCCL 4 and SCCL 5. Frankly good for them, but it’s not for the good of the game or the good of competition. Excuses? My kid played in the joke that was RPL...I lived thru it and it was a nightmare. As far as SCCL goes, my kids don't play in it, but the people that do love it! This whole SCCL 3, 4 or 5 is just rumors at this time, however the travel of SCCL is much better than some Divisions of Classic/Athena. SCCL Div 2 is coming, this is to allow for promotion and relegation in order to make it more competitive.
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 12, 2019 18:19:14 GMT -5
For grits and shiggles, and purely for our own entertainment, I will again pose the question I asked earlier... My question now is: If this happens, are the 3 current out-of-town clubs (BUSA, CESA, VHSA) going to be joining the SCCL 2, etc? If so, that could make for some farther travel for people. If not, they are not included, then do they get an automatic spot in the top division or exemption from the pro/reg that would happen? Would those 3 clubs have a competitive 2nd team they can field? How are their top teams? BUSA and CESA have girls ECNL, do they have boys? If they do I doubt they can put another competitive 3rd team
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Post by 4theloveofsoccer on Apr 12, 2019 18:34:32 GMT -5
Good to hear a local team/AFU is added to SCCL, IMO better than an out of state team.
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on Apr 12, 2019 18:54:25 GMT -5
Too funny. Please save the excuses for someone that will believe them. Let me make this simple, if this was about “on-going issues” then the Big 5, soon to be Big 6, got their message achieved with Division 1 of SCCL. But the real truth is this is about money. The Big 5 founders of SCCL are saving money with SCCL and will make money off of every little club that gets added to SCCL 2, SCCL 3, SCCL 4 and SCCL 5. Frankly good for them, but it’s not for the good of the game or the good of competition. We get it, your club was left out and probably will for a while. I remember last year how much it bothered you when it was created. Lol someone doesn’t agree with the party line so you make assumptions and accusations. Debate the facts but you can leave your assumptions for motives
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 12, 2019 20:31:14 GMT -5
This was an ongoing issue for years. The big 5 complained and no one did anything. Now that they left they're trying to get them back, but it may be too late Too funny. Please save the excuses for someone that will believe them. Let me make this simple, if this was about “on-going issues” then the Big 5, soon to be Big 6, got their message achieved with Division 1 of SCCL. But the real truth is this is about money. The Big 5 founders of SCCL are saving money with SCCL and will make money off of every little club that gets added to SCCL 2, SCCL 3, SCCL 4 and SCCL 5. Frankly good for them, but it’s not for the good of the game or the good of competition. I am not sure that it isn't good for the game or of competition. If they do prom/rel then why isn't it good for the competition or for the game?? If they are adding new clubs then in the long run it could look a lot like Georgia Soccer except better run and more responsive to the concerns of the "customer." It is too early to tell.
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Post by soccerlegacy on Apr 13, 2019 2:02:55 GMT -5
Too funny. Please save the excuses for someone that will believe them. Let me make this simple, if this was about “on-going issues” then the Big 5, soon to be Big 6, got their message achieved with Division 1 of SCCL. But the real truth is this is about money. The Big 5 founders of SCCL are saving money with SCCL and will make money off of every little club that gets added to SCCL 2, SCCL 3, SCCL 4 and SCCL 5. Frankly good for them, but it’s not for the good of the game or the good of competition. I am not sure that it isn't good for the game or of competition. If they do prom/rel then why isn't it good for the competition or for the game?? If they are adding new clubs then in the long run it could look a lot like Georgia Soccer except better run and more responsive to the concerns of the "customer." It is too early to tell. Except it won't be Georgia Soccer if the out-of-state teams that are already in SCCL are also in the other tiers. Not to mention the rumor of a Tenn. team is joining.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 13, 2019 6:23:34 GMT -5
I am not sure that it isn't good for the game or of competition. If they do prom/rel then why isn't it good for the competition or for the game?? If they are adding new clubs then in the long run it could look a lot like Georgia Soccer except better run and more responsive to the concerns of the "customer." It is too early to tell. Except it won't be Georgia Soccer if the out-of-state teams that are already in SCCL are also in the other tiers. Not to mention the rumor of a Tenn. team is joining. So? I don't have some warm fuzzy feeling for teams from Savannah, Columbus or Augusta over teams from Greenville or Birmingham (or Chattanooga). I care more about the distance than the state they are in. I am closer to Greenville than Augusta or Columbus and don't have to drive all the way through Atlanta to get there. It doesn't matter to me that the teams are in a different state. I also care more about how it is run.
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Post by girlcoach on Apr 13, 2019 16:38:26 GMT -5
So our amazingly awesome little club that has no ties to US Club, ECNL, DA, or any other alphabet soup leagues outside what was R3PL (this year we didn’t have any in the new league) was invited to join the new SCCL second division for next year. From what we were told was a select group of small clubs that are known to have some decent top teams have been offered spots in the new league and we could potential add more teams in the coming years as they add more divisions. What we thought was amazing was the Big Six (yes AFU is going into SCCL next year) are planning on pulling everything out of Ga Soccer and the Classic/Athena divisions in less then 5 years. So what will become of GaSoccer and USYS? So why exactly would that be attractive to you? "Please come join our second division so our fourth team will have someone to play against." I have read that the clubs formed SCCL because RPL was badly run. For teams below that level, what is the discontent with Georgia Soccer? I have coached in it for many years, all levels. I can't say I have been mistreated in any way or that the divisions weren't reasonably competitive or the tournaments weren't well run. My experience has been pretty good. Seems to me there are a lot of adults who need to be spanked and sent to bed without any supper, on both sides. The interests of the players take second place to the egos of the adults.
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Post by afu on Apr 13, 2019 20:05:19 GMT -5
AFU will be joining SCCL this fall. I wonder if the former NL teams at AFU will be 1st Division or 2nd Division in SCCL to start?
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Post by soccerlegacy on Apr 13, 2019 22:03:51 GMT -5
Except it won't be Georgia Soccer if the out-of-state teams that are already in SCCL are also in the other tiers. Not to mention the rumor of a Tenn. team is joining. So? I don't have some warm fuzzy feeling for teams from Savannah, Columbus or Augusta over teams from Greenville or Birmingham (or Chattanooga). I care more about the distance than the state they are in. I am closer to Greenville than Augusta or Columbus and don't have to drive all the way through Atlanta to get there. It doesn't matter to me that the teams are in a different state. I also care more about how it is run. I'm on on your side on this. All I was pointing out is that this will no be Ga soccer anymore. The Savannah, Tifton and Warner Robbins drive suck! I don't know how their parents do it for half the season.
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