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Post by Keeper on Apr 16, 2019 23:37:13 GMT -5
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Post by soccerlegacy on Apr 17, 2019 2:02:30 GMT -5
Like what?
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Post by soccerdaddy on Apr 17, 2019 5:45:22 GMT -5
Where is the evidence that SSA will be ECNL, jumping from NPL? Concorde and SSA are utilizing players in DA as well as ECNL/NPL/SCCL. If SSA drops NPL then they will have to compete. Not sure about the switch to not be in NPL?
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Post by infoguy on Apr 17, 2019 6:45:49 GMT -5
U.S. Club Soccer doesn't offer Super Y, Super Y is under USL.
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Post by infoguy on Apr 17, 2019 6:48:44 GMT -5
Where is the evidence that SSA will be ECNL, jumping from NPL? Concorde and SSA are utilizing players in DA as well as ECNL/NPL/SCCL. If SSA drops NPL then they will have to compete. Not sure about the switch to not be in NPL? Right, no evidence yet. However, it's interesting that the DC of SSA is on the board of U.S. Club Soccer, so we all speculate on the ramifications.
We speculate also because there are rumors that former board members (or board members partial to other clubs) shut SSA out of ECNL over the years...
What do you mean that if SSA drops NPL, it "will have to compete"? Compete for a spot in the league?
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Post by soccerdaddy on Apr 17, 2019 7:21:32 GMT -5
What do you mean that if SSA drops NPL, it "will have to compete"? Compete for a spot in the league? [/div]
[/quote] Concorde and SSA have loaned players (Over U15 B is all I know of) for playing in Pre-Season Tournaments, DA (DP), NPL and SCCL because there are no rules to stop it. If SSA drops NPL to be in ECNL with Concorde then they will not be able to loan or swap players like they are doing now. Keep in mind these are not full time DA players for Fall but open to Spring. There might be non DA as well that I don’t know of.
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Post by infoguy on Apr 17, 2019 7:38:16 GMT -5
What do you mean that if SSA drops NPL, it "will have to compete"? Compete for a spot in the league? [/div]
[/quote] Concorde and SSA have loaned players (Over U15 B is all I know of) for playing in Pre-Season Tournaments, DA (DP), NPL and SCCL because there are no rules to stop it. If SSA drops NPL to be in ECNL with Concorde then they will not be able to loan or swap players like they are doing now. Keep in mind these are not full time DA players for Fall but open to Spring. There might be non DA as well that I don’t know of. [/quote][/div]
The 2 clubs would compete with each other if both in ECNL - got it.
As for loaning or swapping players at the older boys' ages, I can tell you that I'm not aware as a parent of U19B SSA NPL of that happening (although there could be a reason for that related to player quality).
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Post by soccerdaddy on Apr 17, 2019 7:51:32 GMT -5
What do you mean that if SSA drops NPL, it "will have to compete"? Compete for a spot in the league? [/div]
[/quote] Concorde and SSA have loaned players (Over U15 B is all I know of) for playing in Pre-Season Tournaments, DA (DP), NPL and SCCL because there are no rules to stop it. If SSA drops NPL to be in ECNL with Concorde then they will not be able to loan or swap players like they are doing now. Keep in mind these are not full time DA players for Fall but open to Spring. There might be non DA as well that I don’t know of. [/quote][/div]
The 2 clubs would compete with each other if both in ECNL - got it.
As for loaning or swapping players at the older boys' ages, I can tell you that I'm not aware as a parent of U19B SSA NPL of that happening (although there could be a reason for that related to player quality).
[/quote] We played at SSA U14 DA last season. This season SSA played 2 DA DP (1 came from Concorde and 1 from SSA) on the NPL team with a promise to continue in the Spring. Not sure if they did other age groups at SSA. They played in a lot of Concorde/SSA pre season tournaments as well as DA games. I would imagine they would do it for the rest of the older age groups. The players loyal to Concorde get extra games because of DA. Not sure if SSA players get the same opportunity since Concorde has the DA.
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Post by atlsoccer on Apr 17, 2019 9:08:38 GMT -5
I will not pretend to understand the structure, but I think a lot of the conversation on this thread is not correct.
US Club is used as the registration system for ECNL, but to my knowledge has nothing else to do with the program. In fact, NPL and ECNL are competing organizations which don’t get along. I don’t think being on the US Club board helps a club get ECNL at all.
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Post by atv on Apr 17, 2019 9:19:07 GMT -5
ECNL is sanctioned by US Club. Their board of directors are different. Here is their stated club application review process.
ECNL APPLICATION REVIEW PROCESS.
Completed applications will be reviewed by a committee selected by the ECNL Board of Directors based on the following criteria:
1. Club’s Player Development Guidelines. 2. Club’s History of Youth Player Development. 3. Club’s History of Success in Elite Competitions, Tournaments and Leagues. 4. Club’s Philosophy. 5. Club’s Technical Staff (including quality of Coaching Staff). 6. Overall Club Infrastructure.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Apr 17, 2019 9:52:17 GMT -5
I will not pretend to understand the structure, but I think a lot of the conversation on this thread is not correct. US Club is used as the registration system for ECNL, but to my knowledge has nothing else to do with the program. In fact, NPL and ECNL are competing organizations which don’t get along. I don’t think being on the US Club board helps a club get ECNL at all. I completely agree here. Coming from the SSA side of things here. Its clear SSA (and most likely the rest of the Big 5) want out of GA Soccer completely. What GA Soccer did trying to sanction them didn't help the bad blood either. This appointment and the other thread about SCCL expanding shows me that in 2-3 years GA Soccer will not exist in any big form. SCCL will take the place of the Athena/Classic system. Its clear from chatting with coaches and directors at SSA they do not like GA Soccer at all and would prefer all of their teams out of it. This appointment is probably a further step in that direction.
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Post by infoguy on Apr 17, 2019 12:28:18 GMT -5
I will not pretend to understand the structure, but I think a lot of the conversation on this thread is not correct. US Club is used as the registration system for ECNL, but to my knowledge has nothing else to do with the program. In fact, NPL and ECNL are competing organizations which don’t get along. I don’t think being on the US Club board helps a club get ECNL at all.
Right, it's speculation. Speculation about what it means for an SSA Director of Coaching to be on the Board. Seems like there's a reason why SSA has been shutout all this time from ECNL, so folks have theorized that it's politics. If that's true, then this should squash that.
That said, U.S. Club Soccer is a league with employees, and it has a Board - it's not a registration system, unless I'm taking you too literally.
NPL and ECNL are not competing organizations, they are different leagues. In fact, the top NPL teams play against the top ECNL teams in the ENPL tournament. NPL and ECNL also don't compete with SCCL. They are different tiers.
That said, you might be right and the fact that Simon Davey serving on the board may not result in SSA getting ECNL. That said, if you look at the criteria for earning ECNL status, I'm sure he will advocate. U.S. Club Soccer has recognized SSA for its organization, structure, fields, coaching, etc. in the recent past.
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Post by soccerlegacy on Apr 17, 2019 12:42:05 GMT -5
I will not pretend to understand the structure, but I think a lot of the conversation on this thread is not correct. US Club is used as the registration system for ECNL, but to my knowledge has nothing else to do with the program. In fact, NPL and ECNL are competing organizations which don’t get along. I don’t think being on the US Club board helps a club get ECNL at all.
Right, it's speculation. Speculation about what it means for an SSA Director of Coaching to be on the Board. Seems like there's a reason why SSA has been shutout all this time from ECNL, so folks have theorized that it's politics. If that's true, then this should squash that.
That said, U.S. Club Soccer is a league with employees, and it has a Board - it's not a registration system, unless I'm taking you too literally.
NPL and ECNL are not competing organizations, they are different leagues. In fact, the top NPL teams play against the top ECNL teams in the ENPL tournament. NPL and ECNL also don't compete with SCCL. They are different tiers.
That said, you might be right and the fact that Simon Davey serving on the board may not result in SSA getting ECNL. That said, if you look at the criteria for earning ECNL status, I'm sure he will advocate. U.S. Club Soccer has recognized SSA for its organization, structure, fields, coaching, etc. in the recent past.
The SCCL is new so I didn't know f they might eventually be brought into the mix with NPL. Maybe that has to do with the "regional" thing SCCL is vs "national" thing NPL is. I do know that in some clubs NPL is the either the top team or the 2nd team, while if NPL is not available (most clubs don't have it) then SCCL is the 2nd team or 3rd team. Anyway, I would like to see all of these leagues have a play-in to ENPL tournament.
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Post by soccerdaddy on Apr 17, 2019 12:58:46 GMT -5
Your wish is my command, ECNL, NPL and SCCL in two weekends of tournaments :-) I'm not sure if this is GA only teams. Teams are not listed yet. soccer.sincsports.com/TTContent.aspx?tid=NASASCCS&tabTournament May 17-19, 2019 Come join us for an end of season weekend of fun as NTH presents the Adidas Select Cup and College Showcase! Registration deadline is April 26th. U8-U14 will play standard tournament format May 18 and May 19, 2019. U15-U19 will play college showcase format (1 game a day) May 17, May 18, and May 19, 2019. NTH Adidas Select Cup and College Showcase in partnership with the Southeastern Clubs Champions League will be offering a NEW Division for U15-U19 Elite Teams, The SCCL Cup. The SCCL Cup will host SCCL, NPL, and ECNL level teams against each other over two weekends of play on May 17-19th and May 25-26th. *State Cup Competitors are welcome to register for the May 17-19th competitions only. It will run in partnership with three events: NTH Select Cup and Showcase (U15-U19), UFA Xtreme Cup (U12-U14) and the GSA Revolution Cup and Showcase. The SCCL Cup will be split among two events on the weekend of May 17-19th, the NTH Select Cup and College Showcase for the U15-U19 Divisions and the UFA Xtreme Cup for the U12-U14 Divisions . Teams will be seeded and play a round robin schedule. The winners of each division will play in the Championship SCCL Cup Bracket, while the remaining teams play in the Showcase SCCL Cup Bracket on the 2nd weekend of play at the GSA Revolution Cup and Showcase. Both weekends will host numerous college scouts.
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Apr 17, 2019 14:08:36 GMT -5
Your wish is my command, ECNL, NPL and SCCL in two weekends of tournaments :-) I'm not sure if this is GA only teams. Teams are not listed yet. soccer.sincsports.com/TTContent.aspx?tid=NASASCCS&tabTournament May 17-19, 2019 Come join us for an end of season weekend of fun as NTH presents the Adidas Select Cup and College Showcase! Registration deadline is April 26th. U8-U14 will play standard tournament format May 18 and May 19, 2019. U15-U19 will play college showcase format (1 game a day) May 17, May 18, and May 19, 2019. NTH Adidas Select Cup and College Showcase in partnership with the Southeastern Clubs Champions League will be offering a NEW Division for U15-U19 Elite Teams, The SCCL Cup. The SCCL Cup will host SCCL, NPL, and ECNL level teams against each other over two weekends of play on May 17-19th and May 25-26th. *State Cup Competitors are welcome to register for the May 17-19th competitions only. It will run in partnership with three events: NTH Select Cup and Showcase (U15-U19), UFA Xtreme Cup (U12-U14) and the GSA Revolution Cup and Showcase. The SCCL Cup will be split among two events on the weekend of May 17-19th, the NTH Select Cup and College Showcase for the U15-U19 Divisions and the UFA Xtreme Cup for the U12-U14 Divisions . Teams will be seeded and play a round robin schedule. The winners of each division will play in the Championship SCCL Cup Bracket, while the remaining teams play in the Showcase SCCL Cup Bracket on the 2nd weekend of play at the GSA Revolution Cup and Showcase. Both weekends will host numerous college scouts. Let's be honest though, if the Georgia ECNL teams truly show up and play in this ECNL, SCCL, NPL tournament the ECNL teams will squash them
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Post by 04gparent on Apr 17, 2019 14:16:43 GMT -5
Your wish is my command, ECNL, NPL and SCCL in two weekends of tournaments :-) I'm not sure if this is GA only teams. Teams are not listed yet. soccer.sincsports.com/TTContent.aspx?tid=NASASCCS&tabTournament May 17-19, 2019 Come join us for an end of season weekend of fun as NTH presents the Adidas Select Cup and College Showcase! Registration deadline is April 26th. U8-U14 will play standard tournament format May 18 and May 19, 2019. U15-U19 will play college showcase format (1 game a day) May 17, May 18, and May 19, 2019. NTH Adidas Select Cup and College Showcase in partnership with the Southeastern Clubs Champions League will be offering a NEW Division for U15-U19 Elite Teams, The SCCL Cup. The SCCL Cup will host SCCL, NPL, and ECNL level teams against each other over two weekends of play on May 17-19th and May 25-26th. *State Cup Competitors are welcome to register for the May 17-19th competitions only. It will run in partnership with three events: NTH Select Cup and Showcase (U15-U19), UFA Xtreme Cup (U12-U14) and the GSA Revolution Cup and Showcase. The SCCL Cup will be split among two events on the weekend of May 17-19th, the NTH Select Cup and College Showcase for the U15-U19 Divisions and the UFA Xtreme Cup for the U12-U14 Divisions . Teams will be seeded and play a round robin schedule. The winners of each division will play in the Championship SCCL Cup Bracket, while the remaining teams play in the Showcase SCCL Cup Bracket on the 2nd weekend of play at the GSA Revolution Cup and Showcase. Both weekends will host numerous college scouts. Let's be honest though, if the Georgia ECNL teams truly show up and play in this ECNL, SCCL, NPL tournament the ECNL teams will squash them Oh my... Stir the pot much?!! LOL
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Post by soccerlegacy on Apr 17, 2019 14:28:36 GMT -5
Let's be honest though, if the Georgia ECNL teams truly show up and play in this ECNL, SCCL, NPL tournament the ECNL teams will squash them Oh my... Stir the pot much?!! LOL Haha... agreed soccermaxx72. The top of the ECNL will most likely be the winners, but it does give the NPL and SCCL a chance to see where they stack up against the mid and lower level teams and other leagues. Kind of like the College Basketball National tourney.. we all know pretty much who will be in the final 4, but we love the underdog stories that surprise... I don't see it as much stirring the pot, as it is stating his opinion that is probably shared by most.
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Post by infoguy on Apr 18, 2019 6:23:01 GMT -5
Wow, shocker, another discussion about leagues by club results in posts about one girls, ECNL age group!
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