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Post by soccerloafer on Dec 11, 2019 14:44:32 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Dec 11, 2019 14:52:10 GMT -5
I’d rather my role models speak their mind and not just go with the BS status quo. Rapinoe is loved for the fact that she’s fighting for equality and uses her platform to speak out. It’s not like anything she said in any of those speeches was blatantly wrong or not true either.
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Post by mistergrinch on Dec 11, 2019 15:31:58 GMT -5
Unlikable? To whom - other than breitbart readers (obviously)?
She's one of the most popular female athletes in the world. Her jersey is a top seller.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Dec 11, 2019 16:13:54 GMT -5
I have to be honest, I do completely and wholeheartedly believe in our collective and individual rights to say, think or believe in what we do. But for the life of me, I just don’t get what many of you find so appalling about Rapinoe. The subject of your post is “This is why Rapinoe is so unlikable.” Honestly, I believe you need to clarify that this is maybe how you feel, because you do not speak for everyone.
Rapinoe is no more unlikable than an NFL player who beats on his wife, girlfriend, fiancé or mother of his child. Rapinoe is no more unlikable than any of the other athletes who have chosen not to visit the whitehouse. Rapinoe is no more unlikable than any of the others before her who stand up for or kneel down to bring attention to the injustices that we all see. Mind you, all of this is done from the realization of the potential loss of endorsements and revenue generating sources. Could it because she’s a member of the LGBTQ community? As the kids say “okay boomer” get over it. Who she chooses to be with is a personal choice and doesn’t affect you in any way, shape or form.
Megan Rapinoe is fearless, has a pulpit and knows how to use it to advance the causes she believes in. Whether you agree with her or not, she is the voice of the voiceless and I’m thankful for her… 👏👏👏
p.s. For the record, I hope Brietbart isn’t the only scholarly source for your clearly biased conclusion 😱
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Post by fanatic21 on Dec 11, 2019 16:15:03 GMT -5
Overall I like Rapinoe and support her for speaking out against injustices; however, it did rub me the wrong way when she publicly called out Ronaldo and Messi for not doing more to fight racism, sexism, etc. and said they weren’t active or involved in anything. Not sure about Messi, but I’ve read about tons of amazing things Ronaldo has done for the underprivileged. Glad that he was the bigger man and didn’t call her out for not doing more for the poor.
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Post by mistergrinch on Dec 11, 2019 16:30:30 GMT -5
Glad that he was the bigger man and didn’t call her out for not doing more for the poor. Don't disagree.. but to be fair
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Post by fanatic21 on Dec 11, 2019 16:42:23 GMT -5
Yeah, that $ certainly makes a difference. Problem is that calling people for not doing anything, especially when they are in fact doing a lot to make the world a better place (maybe just not as much as she would like them to for the causes she believes in - but who knows, maybe they are, just not as vocally as she is), loses her a degree of credibility in her own fight. There was likely a tactful way for her to say that she wished Ronaldo and Messi would speak out more against racism and sexism, but unfortunately she didn't say it that way.
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Post by girlsoccer on Dec 11, 2019 16:55:03 GMT -5
Overall I like Rapinoe and support her for speaking out against injustices; however, it did rub me the wrong way when she publicly called out Ronaldo and Messi for not doing more to fight racism, sexism, etc. and said they weren’t active or involved in anything. Not sure about Messi, but I’ve read about tons of amazing things Ronaldo has done for the underprivileged. Glad that he was the bigger man and didn’t call her out for not doing more for the poor. Completely agree. Not to mention that she really has no idea what those two do to fight racism/poverty/etc. Not everyone desires public adoration for their “good” deeds. Lots of people do charitable things quietly and don’t go public with it. I support her right to stand up for her beliefs and speak her mind, but I don’t believe that should include calling out others when she can’t really know what they do or don’t do.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Dec 11, 2019 16:58:37 GMT -5
The argument is 100% political and most will align themselves with political stance on it. Regarding the women sportsperson argument, IMO its garbage...look at the competition...most of these are difficult to argue against. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_Illustrated_Sportsperson_of_the_YearI don't that anyone would put Ray Rice, Ray Lewis or Mike Vick above her as "more likeable", I don't think anyone is making that argument. And she has the right to use her pulpit to say whatever she wants. And people have the right to turn off the TV when she's on it. Regarding Messi and CR7...I'm of the opinion they don't have to do anything more than they want to (nor does anyone). And also, they may not take her stance on the issues she supports, so its wrong of her to assume they should speak out on her issues, I don't think she cares for Hinkle who doesn't support her stances.
IMO she (Rapinoe) and tactful do not belong in the same conversation. But then some people appreciate that approach.
And frankly, I'm looking forward to the day we have trans woman in the NWSL, I think it'll make things fun.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Dec 11, 2019 18:46:43 GMT -5
Yeah, that $ certainly makes a difference. Problem is that calling people for not doing anything, especially when they are in fact doing a lot to make the world a better place (maybe just not as much as she would like them to for the causes she believes in - but who knows, maybe they are, just not as vocally as she is), loses her a degree of credibility in her own fight. There was likely a tactful way for her to say that she wished Ronaldo and Messi would speak out more against racism and sexism, but unfortunately she didn't say it that way. What I think is interesting is that everyone talks about her calling out Ronaldo and Messi but no one mentions her calling out Zlatan!🤣 The quote I read involved all 3. We know Messi is very quiet so I doubt he would use his VOICE to say anything. He rarely even speaks more than 2 or 3 sentences in interviews. Ronaldo is more bold. Zlatan I could see being even more over the top than Rapinoe!!! Problem is that he mainly wants to talk about himself!!! Not everyone needs to use their voice or visibility to help others less fortunate regardless if that is due to discrimination or poverty or illness. I imagine everyone has some cause they could get behind, but how they choose to help is up to them. I admire Rapinoe's fearlessness and I am thankful that she uses her position as she does, but I am equally thankful to the many people who donate money, time, services, or their voices to many other worthy causes. To each their own.
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Post by soccerloafer on Dec 11, 2019 20:23:06 GMT -5
1. Rapinoe doesn't want to be treated equally, she wants special treatment. 2. I don't appreciate her using the international stage to disparage the nation that put her on the international stage and provided her the opportunity to become a millionaire playing a sport. 3. My animosity to her has nothing to do with her sexual orientation. 4. She was hypocritical, after the WWC win, when she boasted the team couldn't win without the gays. Didn't see any of the straight players making a similar boast (can't win w/o the straights). What if Larry Bird jawed to the camera after a Celtics championship, can't win without the white guy? How would that go over. 5. I peruse a wide variety of news sources, left to right, on a regular basis. Everyone should, because then you can figure out how stories are slanted and facts are omitted to push an agenda from various angles.
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Post by weekendwarrior03 on Dec 11, 2019 21:31:31 GMT -5
Rapinoe needs to come back to Benz so we can boo her the whole game again.
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Post by fortheloveofthegame on Dec 11, 2019 21:55:03 GMT -5
1. Rapinoe doesn't want to be treated equally, she wants special treatment. 2. I don't appreciate her using the international stage to disparage the nation that put her on the international stage and provided her the opportunity to become a millionaire playing a sport. 3. My animosity to her has nothing to do with her sexual orientation. 4. She was hypocritical, after the WWC win, when she boasted the team couldn't win without the gays. Didn't see any of the straight players making a similar boast (can't win w/o the straights). What if Larry Bird jawed to the camera after a Celtics championship, can't win without the white guy? How would that go over. 5. I peruse a wide variety of news sources, left to right, on a regular basis. Everyone should, because then you can figure out how stories are slanted and facts are omitted to push an agenda from various angles. Never heard item 4 above - do you have the quotes directly?
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Post by rifle on Dec 11, 2019 22:02:20 GMT -5
I thought she was told to shut up until she won something?
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Post by lovetokickit on Dec 12, 2019 3:20:06 GMT -5
I have to be honest, I do completely and wholeheartedly believe in our collective and individual rights to say, think or believe in what we do. But for the life of me, I just don’t get what many of you find so appalling about Rapinoe. The subject of your post is “This is why Rapinoe is so unlikable.” Honestly, I believe you need to clarify that this is maybe how you feel, because you do not speak for everyone. Rapinoe is no more unlikable than an NFL player who beats on his wife, girlfriend, fiancé or mother of his child. Rapinoe is no more unlikable than any of the other athletes who have chosen not to visit the whitehouse. Rapinoe is no more unlikable than any of the others before her who stand up for or kneel down to bring attention to the injustices that we all see. Mind you, all of this is done from the realization of the potential loss of endorsements and revenue generating sources. Could it because she’s a member of the LGBTQ community? As the kids say “okay boomer” get over it. Who she chooses to be with is a personal choice and doesn’t affect you in any way, shape or form. Megan Rapinoe is fearless, has a pulpit and knows how to use it to advance the causes she believes in. Whether you agree with her or not, she is voice of the voiceless and I’m thankful for her… 👏👏👏 p.s. For the record, I hope Brietbart isn’t the only scholarly source for your clearly biased conclusion 😱 PREACH 🙌🏽
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Dec 12, 2019 7:11:13 GMT -5
I’d rather my role models speak their mind and not just go with the BS status quo. Rapinoe is loved for the fact that she’s fighting for equality and uses her platform to speak out. It’s not like anything she said in any of those speeches was blatantly wrong or not true either. Well to be honest she might not want to talk about equality in pay until she learns how to do simple math on the subject. Just saying. The equal pay nonsense is intellectually dishonest on her part... The rest of it she can do what she wants, but if you represent a country by being on their national team don't expect to be loved and adored when you tear it down every chance you get. She has plenty of money the bigger statement if she thought there were so much injustice in this country is to refuse the salary and a position on the USWNT. There are other women throughout the world that have done just that to protest different things. No, Rapinoe is even worse than Kaepernick in my opinion. They both want the fame for speaking words, but their actions don't really practice what they preach, but Rapinoe is worse cause she still plays on the team for a country that she rails on every chance she gets. At least Kaepernick quit and left money on the table albeit just for a short time till Nike decided to virtue signal and hire him.
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Post by soccerloafer on Dec 12, 2019 8:40:58 GMT -5
1. Rapinoe doesn't want to be treated equally, she wants special treatment. 2. I don't appreciate her using the international stage to disparage the nation that put her on the international stage and provided her the opportunity to become a millionaire playing a sport. 3. My animosity to her has nothing to do with her sexual orientation. 4. She was hypocritical, after the WWC win, when she boasted the team couldn't win without the gays. Didn't see any of the straight players making a similar boast (can't win w/o the straights). What if Larry Bird jawed to the camera after a Celtics championship, can't win without the white guy? How would that go over. 5. I peruse a wide variety of news sources, left to right, on a regular basis. Everyone should, because then you can figure out how stories are slanted and facts are omitted to push an agenda from various angles. Never heard item 4 above - do you have the quotes directly? www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jun/28/cant-win-without-gays-usa-megan-rapinoeQuote was actually after the quarter-final - my bad on timing. “Go gays!” she said after the 2-1 quarter-final victory over France in Paris and when asked to comment on whether it being Pride month made her contribution more personally significant. “You can’t win a championship without gays on your team - it’s never been done before, ever. That’s science, right there!
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Post by hattrick07 on Dec 12, 2019 8:44:35 GMT -5
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Post by crazzzy4soccer on Dec 13, 2019 18:18:19 GMT -5
So if she would just “Shut up and kick a soccer ball” you mean? Wow! I hope your not raising daughters to kids in general to just shut up and do anything when they are given a platform such as Rapinoe is given. She’s not preaching hate or violence- she’s preaching unity and equality. Love or hate her message I’m proud she’s MY SOCCER players role model!
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Post by soccerloafer on Dec 13, 2019 18:50:19 GMT -5
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Post by soccerloafer on Dec 13, 2019 18:51:11 GMT -5
So if she would just “Shut up and kick a soccer ball” you mean? Wow! I hope your not raising daughters to kids in general to just shut up and do anything when they are given a platform such as Rapinoe is given. She’s not preaching hate or violence- she’s preaching unity and equality. Love or hate her message I’m proud she’s MY SOCCER players role model! She actually preaches disunity and special treatment. I teach my kids to pick their battles, be humble and grateful, and respect everyone.
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Post by mistergrinch on Dec 13, 2019 20:05:10 GMT -5
So if she would just “Shut up and kick a soccer ball” you mean? Wow! I hope your not raising daughters to kids in general to just shut up and do anything when they are given a platform such as Rapinoe is given. She’s not preaching hate or violence- she’s preaching unity and equality. Love or hate her message I’m proud she’s MY SOCCER players role model! She actually preaches disunity and special treatment. I teach my kids to pick their battles, be humble and grateful, and respect everyone. *citation needed
'When You're Accustomed to Privilege, Equality Feels Like Oppression'
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Dec 13, 2019 21:19:26 GMT -5
I teach my kids to pick their battles, be humble and grateful, and respect everyone. Great things every parent should teach their kids, but I'm guessing you would have an issue if they stood up for others, called people out on their shortcomings or in-actions??? Not sure whether you have boys or girls, but I do hope they are not lucky enough to have a pulpit to use to speak on behalf of the muted...
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Dec 13, 2019 21:29:58 GMT -5
Not sure what this post has to do with Megan Rapinoe. I'm going to take a wild guess and assume that since you're a big Rapinoe fan, you think she should have won this aware too right No one who has watched the USWNT should have a problem with Julie Johnson Ertz winning. She was one of the workhorses for the run in France. This especially after player CB in the last WC. She's deadly on both sides of the ball and is a natural leader on the team and the field. She brings the same passion to the Ertz Family Foundation. Watching her and her NFL hubby gushing & supporting each other is a case study in what true luv and support for equal partners in a relationship is...
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Post by soccerloafer on Dec 14, 2019 14:36:58 GMT -5
Not sure what this post has to do with Megan Rapinoe. I'm going to take a wild guess and assume that since you're a big Rapinoe fan, you think she should have won this aware too right No one who has watched the USWNT should have a problem with Julie Johnson Ertz winning. She was one of the workhorses for the run in France. This especially after player CB in the last WC. She's deadly on both sides of the ball and is a natural leader on the team and the field. She brings the same passion to the Ertz Family Foundation. Watching her and her NFL hubby gushing & supporting each other is a case study in what true luv and support for equal partners in a relationship is... Ertz is awesome all around, on and off the field. Post was just to share the good news.
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