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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 19, 2014 11:53:55 GMT -5
This article was posted this morning and someone called me about it....do you think that Hope Solo should be suspended just like the NFL players? Thoughts??  Hope Solo and the domestic violence case no one is talking aboutThe official account shows that Hope Solo extended her shutout record to 73 games as the U.S. women’s national team beat Mexico 4-0 in a friendly Thursday night in Rochester, N.Y. But as the NFL grapples with its domestic-violence crisis, Solo, who has been accused of the same crime, continues to play for her pro soccer team as well as the national team as she awaits trial in November. Solo has pleaded not guilty to two counts of misdemeanor domestic violence in an alleged assault of her sister and 17-year-old nephew last summer in Kirkland, Wash. Unlike some of the biggest NFL stars, Solo, who is their counterpart in women’s soccer and someone touted as a role model, quietly goes about her business of keeping soccer balls from going into the net. NFL stars like Ray Rice, Greg Hardy, Jonathan Dwyer and Adrian Peterson were banished after massive sponsor, political and fan pressure, but Nike, for instance, has remained silent on Solo. Rice is appealing an indefinite suspension by the NFL and was cut by the Baltimore Ravens after he knocked out his then-fiancee; Hardy and Peterson are both on the exempt commissioner’s list (essentially on leave with pay) while their legal cases are pending. Dwyer was suspended by the Arizona Cardinals after his arrest Wednesday on a charge of head-butting his wife. The Carolina Panthers’ Hardy is appealing his conviction by a judge of assaulting and threatening an ex-girlfriend; the Minnesota Vikings’ Peterson was arrested last weekend on a child-abuse charge. Solo, who is also on the Seattle Reign roster, continues to play as a big year for women’s soccer is looming with qualifying this fall for the next summer’s World Cup. “We are aware that Hope is handling a personal situation at the moment,” said Neil Buethe, U.S. Soccer director of communications, told USA Today’s Christine Brennan, who criticized the organization’s decision to honor Solo’s record last month. “At the same time, she has an opportunity to set a significant record that speaks to her hard work and dedication over the years with the National Team. While considering all factors involved, we believe that we should recognize that in the proper way.” While U.S. Soccer doesn’t have the same high profile as the NFL, how do the cases differ? Aren’t women’s soccer players just as much role models as male football players? The goalkeeping record is an an important one, both for Solo and for women’s soccer, but does it really trump an accusation of domestic violence? Why is the notion of awaiting due process so inconsistently applied? And why aren’t more people talking about the fact that domestic violence isn’t simply an issue of men against women? www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/09/19/hope-solo-and-the-domestic-violence-case-no-one-is-talking-about/ |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 19, 2014 12:03:16 GMT -5
who did she beat up again?
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Post by lovethegame on Sept 19, 2014 12:06:35 GMT -5
I hadn't thought about it, and I don't know the whole story, but isn't Hope accused of assaulting her nephew, who is a teenager? I think they have a point here. Hope's case is getting swept under the rug.
What is it with some of these athletes? A vast majority are great role models both on and off the field, court, track, etc. But, there are those who just can't seem to get it together. I think some get the idea that because they are so talented, they are untouchable. For a time they are. They get by with things others wouldn't. It starts when they are young. Eventually it does catch up to them.
So, should Hope be suspended? If she convicted of domestic violence, battery, or child abuse, I think she should. Too many young girls look up to her for who she is on the field. It's who she is off the field that makes me question whether she should be a role model.
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Post by lovethegame on Sept 19, 2014 12:08:59 GMT -5
who did she beat up again? Her sister and nephew (I think he is 15). |
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Post by lovethegame on Sept 19, 2014 12:11:53 GMT -5
I should have read the article closer. The nephew is 17.
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Post by soccergator on Sept 19, 2014 12:25:27 GMT -5
i think most people probably just read the original story and spoke some mean words about hope to themselves, then forgot about it.
attributed it to her being a drunken fool.
was she really never punished for this from a US soccer or NASL standpoint?
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 19, 2014 12:48:42 GMT -5
i'd be interested in what women think should happen with hope because i do think there is and should be a double standard.
In general ---- a man hitting a women should be treated much differently than a women hitting a man.
what ray rice did is just flat out disturbing. he should never play another down in the nfl!
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 19, 2014 12:53:24 GMT -5
who did she beat up again? she was first beat up by her fiancée now husband before the wedding she then got into a fight with sister and nephew |
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 19, 2014 12:56:55 GMT -5
i think most people probably just read the original story and spoke some mean words about hope to themselves, then forgot about it. attributed it to her being a drunken fool. was she really never punished for this from a US soccer or NASL standpoint? Hahaha.... I feel bad for her, she comes from a very disturbing past. I haven't read her book but I hear is very deep, my daughter has the kid book she wrote and she really enjoyed reading it. I don't think she has been punished, but she also hasn't been convicted. |
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Post by soccergator on Sept 19, 2014 12:59:51 GMT -5
a good friend of mine, saw her at the ATL airport, and she couldn't have been nicer. took a selfie with him!
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 19, 2014 13:01:48 GMT -5
i'd be interested in what women think should happen with hope because i do think there is and should be a double standard. In general ---- a man hitting a women should be treated much differently than a women hitting a man. what ray rice did is just flat out disturbing. he should never play another down in the nfl! I don't think that Hope Solo's case can be compared to Ray Rice's at all!! I saw the video and never want to see it again! Her (Hope) getting into a fight with nephew, it went both ways, he also hit her..i don't really know all the facts I guess but she also didn't knock him out like Rice did his gf. I also believe Hope is abused herself by husband, hes done it before, he will do it again |
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Post by Keeper on Sept 19, 2014 13:20:55 GMT -5
This could be the male and southener in me, but hitting/defending yourself as a women against a 17 year old male is nowhere near what these football players did. Yes hitting and violence is bad, but it's also human nature. Hope solo has had a difficult past but for anyone that has ever met her, done her camps, or ran into her in an airport knows she's a good kind person who will do whatever she can to be a good role model to young soccer players. Short of massive family councilling I doubt anything legally will come of this incident which is why the seattle reign and us soccer are trying to help her move on as long as there are no repeats.
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 19, 2014 13:26:32 GMT -5
a good friend of mine, saw her at the ATL airport, and she couldn't have been nicer. took a selfie with him! After the US Russia game, a player found the USWNT team at hotel..she took pics with her and said she was very nice too. When she played fr the Atlanta Beat she was always very nice to fans too |
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 19, 2014 13:29:45 GMT -5
This could be the male and southener in me, but hitting/defending yourself as a women against a 17 year old male is nowhere near what these football players did. Yes hitting and violence is bad, but it's also human nature. Hope solo has had a difficult past but for anyone that has ever met her, done her camps, or ran into her in an airport knows she's a good kind person who will do whatever she can to be a good role model to young soccer players. Short of massive family councilling I doubt anything legally will come of this incident which is why the seattle reign and us soccer are trying to help her move on as long as there are no repeats. I agree, i dont think much will come out of this either except anger management or family counseling. I think the NFL fans are just pissy right now and are looking for any excuse |
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Post by Keeper on Sept 19, 2014 13:35:44 GMT -5
This could be the male and southener in me, but hitting/defending yourself as a women against a 17 year old male is nowhere near what these football players did. Yes hitting and violence is bad, but it's also human nature. Hope solo has had a difficult past but for anyone that has ever met her, done her camps, or ran into her in an airport knows she's a good kind person who will do whatever she can to be a good role model to young soccer players. Short of massive family councilling I doubt anything legally will come of this incident which is why the seattle reign and us soccer are trying to help her move on as long as there are no repeats. I agree, i dont think much will come out of this either except anger management or family counseling. I think the NFL fans are just pissy right now and are looking for any excuse Bahahaha yes as an NFL fan I can agree I'm a lil pissy with all this damn stupidity by players and commissioner. Thank goodness my Hawks are staying out of this mostly. |
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 19, 2014 13:37:47 GMT -5
I agree, i dont think much will come out of this either except anger management or family counseling. I think the NFL fans are just pissy right now and are looking for any excuse Bahahaha yes as an NFL fan I can agree I'm a lil pissy with all this damn stupidity by players and commissioner. Thank goodness my Hawks are staying out of this mostly. Lol...yes my pissy NFL fan brother is the one that told me about this article... Hes not happy either |
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Post by lovethegame on Sept 19, 2014 14:08:23 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Hope went to jail. I don't think her sister or nephew did. It is different than knocking someone out, but if Hope is convicted I think there should be some consequence. Domestic violence is domestic violence. There are levels of it for sure, but if she's convicted there should be some consistency in the way things are handled. I'm not saying she should be suspended forever, but I don't see how a domestic violence or battery conviction is ignored just because she's a woman.
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 19, 2014 14:21:05 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Hope went to jail. I don't think her sister or nephew did. It is different than knocking someone out, but if Hope is convicted I think there should be some consequence. Domestic violence is domestic violence. There are levels of it for sure, but if she's convicted there should be some consistency in the way things are handled. I'm not saying she should be suspended forever, but I don't see how a domestic violence or battery conviction is ignored just because she's a woman. Yes she was arrested and then released with no bail... If I remember correctly her nephew hit her, he broke a wooden broom on her head after she called him "fat an unathletic", she was also drunk, which doesn't excuse it but drunk people say stupid stuff and shouldn't be engaged. She slapped him, and then slapped his mom after she got involved. I haven't followed up the story much but I'm pretty sure its nowhere near comparison, I don't think it was ignored, I think its completely different |
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 19, 2014 14:23:02 GMT -5
I'm not saying she should be suspended forever, but I don't see how a domestic violence or battery conviction is ignored just because she's a woman. And im pretty sure she hasn't been convicted yet |
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Post by lovethegame on Sept 19, 2014 14:33:03 GMT -5
I'm not saying she should be suspended forever, but I don't see how a domestic violence or battery conviction is ignored just because she's a woman. And im pretty sure she hasn't been convicted yet I didn't say she was convicted. Only that a domestic violence conviction shouldn't be ignored. Sorry I wasn't clear enough. I guess the two "if she's convicted" didn't make it clear enough. I should have said it again a third time just so everyone is clear that I know she hasn't been convicted yet. |
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 19, 2014 14:38:25 GMT -5
And im pretty sure she hasn't been convicted yet I didn't say she was convicted. Only that a domestic violence conviction shouldn't be ignored. Sorry I wasn't clear enough. I guess the three "if she's convicted" didn't make it clear enough. I should have added a fourth. sorry about that...I don't think she will be convicted, and I think that the nephew should also have to face charges |
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Post by lovethegame on Sept 19, 2014 15:01:06 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Hope went to jail. I don't think her sister or nephew did. It is different than knocking someone out, but if Hope is convicted I think there should be some consequence. Domestic violence is domestic violence. There are levels of it for sure, but if she's convicted there should be some consistency in the way things are handled. I'm not saying she should be suspended forever, but I don't see how a domestic violence or battery conviction is ignored just because she's a woman. Yes she was arrested and then released with no bail... If I remember correctly her nephew hit her, he broke a wooden broom on her head after she called him "fat an unathletic", she was also drunk, which doesn't excuse it but drunk people say stupid stuff and shouldn't be engaged. She slapped him, and then slapped his mom after she got involved. I haven't followed up the story much but I'm pretty sure its nowhere near comparison, I don't think it was ignored, I think its completely different Why would a 32 athlete call a 17 year do fat and not athletic? Who does that? It does speak a bit to her character. The nephew made a comment about her dad and she allegedly hit him. Her sister intervened and Hope was hit with a broom. That didn't stop her, so he pointed a broken BB gun at her. They got her out of the house. She came back. I don't know why the nephew wasn't arrested. Maybe they thought Hope initiated the battery and they used the broom to get her to stop. None of us were there. I did say I don't think this compares to knocking someone out, but if she does get convicted, which none of us knows how it will turn out, it shouldn't be brushed aside. If there is nothing to the case, I have to wonder why it hasn't been dismissed. The prosecutor didn't have to file charges, but charges were filed. I don't think assumptions of guilt should be made. So, I will wait and see. Hope has come from a difficult background. She does seem to get herself in trouble beginning with comments made back in Bejing. At the same time, she is an incredible athlete and one of few on the women's side that players look up to. Let's hope this wasn't serious and the case is dismissed and that we never again hear police, Hope Solo and domestic violence in the same sentence. |
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 19, 2014 15:07:33 GMT -5
Yes she was arrested and then released with no bail... If I remember correctly her nephew hit her, he broke a wooden broom on her head after she called him "fat an unathletic", she was also drunk, which doesn't excuse it but drunk people say stupid stuff and shouldn't be engaged. She slapped him, and then slapped his mom after she got involved. I haven't followed up the story much but I'm pretty sure its nowhere near comparison, I don't think it was ignored, I think its completely different Why would a 32 athlete call a 17 year do fat and not athletic? Who does that? It does speak a bit to her character. The nephew made a comment about her dad and she allegedly hit him. Her sister intervened and Hope was hit with a broom. That didn't stop her, so he pointed a broken BB gun at her. They got her out of the house. She came back. I don't know why the nephew wasn't arrested. Maybe they thought Hope initiated the battery and they used the broom to get her to stop. None of us were there. I did say I don't think this compares to knocking someone out, but if she does get convicted, which none of us knows how it will turn out, it shouldn't be brushed aside. If there is nothing to the case, I have to wonder why it hasn't been dismissed. The prosecutor didn't have to file charges, but charges were filed. I don't think assumptions of guilt should be made. So, I will wait and see. Hope has come from a difficult background. She does seem to get herself in trouble beginning with comments made back in Bejing. At the same time, she is an incredible athlete and one of few on the women's side that players look up to. Let's hope this wasn't serious and the case is dismissed and that we never again hear police, Hope Solo and domestic violence in the same sentence. (comments to nephew) Cause she was drunk and sometimes her mouth gets the best of her as many drunk people do...it doesn't make her a bad person, just dumb at times. Same with Beijing, her filter seems to malfunction sometimes. And I totally agree with your last statement about case being dismissed, a lot of girls do look up to her and it would be shame for them to lose her as a role model |
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Post by lovethegame on Sept 19, 2014 15:35:52 GMT -5
Why would a 32 athlete call a 17 year do fat and not athletic? Who does that? It does speak a bit to her character. The nephew made a comment about her dad and she allegedly hit him. Her sister intervened and Hope was hit with a broom. That didn't stop her, so he pointed a broken BB gun at her. They got her out of the house. She came back. I don't know why the nephew wasn't arrested. Maybe they thought Hope initiated the battery and they used the broom to get her to stop. None of us were there. I did say I don't think this compares to knocking someone out, but if she does get convicted, which none of us knows how it will turn out, it shouldn't be brushed aside. If there is nothing to the case, I have to wonder why it hasn't been dismissed. The prosecutor didn't have to file charges, but charges were filed. I don't think assumptions of guilt should be made. So, I will wait and see. Hope has come from a difficult background. She does seem to get herself in trouble beginning with comments made back in Bejing. At the same time, she is an incredible athlete and one of few on the women's side that players look up to. Let's hope this wasn't serious and the case is dismissed and that we never again hear police, Hope Solo and domestic violence in the same sentence. (comments to nephew) Cause she was drunk and sometimes her mouth gets the best of her as many drunk people do...it doesn't make her a bad person, just dumb at times. Same with Beijing, her filter seems to malfunction sometimes. And I totally agree with your last statement about case being dismissed, a lot of girls do look up to her and it would be shame for them to lose her as a role model Being drunk is no excuse. She was the adult and she made a pretty ugly comment to her nephew, which apparently started this whole thing. Plus, it looks like she initiated the physical part of the altercation. if Hope is lost as a role model it will be because of what she does off the field, not on. Let's hope she matures a little. After all she is 32. i really don't believe this case compares to what we've seen in the NFL these past few weeks. But then, I don't know why the police decided to arrest her and the prosecutor decided to file charges. So, I will continue to believe that there could be more than I know and will wait to see what happens. Ultimately, I have no tolerance for domestic violence, and I believe she has been charged with misdemeanor domestic violence. That's why I come off as I do. I admire Hope for her athletic ability. Beyond that she has made some pretty poor choices. I hope this is the last of them. |
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 21, 2014 11:28:27 GMT -5
She definitely has made some poor choices
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 22, 2014 18:48:36 GMT -5
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 23, 2014 8:43:48 GMT -5
I completely disagree with him! Im not excusing she hit her nephew and sister but he hit her first on the head with a broomstick, then his mom attacked her to defend her son, and Hope defended herself. And to answer someone question before about why the other two weren't arrested is because Hope refused to press charges, when she clearly had injuries as well. She also apologized from the get-go about the whole incident, while Ray Rice went happily along acting like what he did wasn't that bad until we all saw the video and oops! No one tried to hide the Hope solo incident, the NFL had the video and theres a recording of them thanking the police for the video, and tried to hide how bad it was. Had they done what they did when it happened, this would have blown over already. I feel they're trying to make excuses for their actions |
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Post by leem on Sept 23, 2014 8:54:44 GMT -5
It's the old adage, "It's not the crime, it's the cover up". She screwed up & admitted it. Rice tried to hide it, the NFL tried to hide it.
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 23, 2014 9:04:29 GMT -5
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Post by lovethegame on Sept 23, 2014 11:03:18 GMT -5
I completely disagree with him! Im not excusing she hit her nephew and sister but he hit her first on the head with a broomstick, then his mom attacked her to defend her son, and Hope defended herself. And to answer someone question before about why the other two weren't arrested is because Hope refused to press charges, when she clearly had injuries as well. She also apologized from the get-go about the whole incident, while Ray Rice went happily along acting like what he did wasn't that bad until we all saw the video and oops! No one tried to hide the Hope solo incident, the NFL had the video and theres a recording of them thanking the police for the video, and tried to hide how bad it was. Had they done what they did when it happened, this would have blown over already. I feel they're trying to make excuses for their actions Everything I've read and heard is that Hope instigated the physical altercation, and according to USA Today that's why the police arrested her and not the sister and nephew (based on witness statements). I happened to be in Seattle when this happened and read about it in the local papers and saw it on their local news. The way you have made this sound, Hope was a complete victim. But, I don't think that's how it went down. Why would the prosecutors file charges if the nephew started it by hitting her with a broom? Why would the file if she was simply defending herself when her sister "attacked her to defend her son"? By saying Hope was hit first, you completely change the what was alleged to have happened. None of us knows Hope. None of us knows exactly what went on that night. She is an amazing soccer player. But, she has some significant issues she needs to sort through. The first on that list of issues is drinking too much and letting alcohol affect her judgement. www.usatoday.com/story/sports/soccer/2014/06/21/hope-solo-arrested-on-domestic-violence-probe/11207907/ |
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