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Post by allthingsoccer on Feb 16, 2015 8:48:46 GMT -5
** I searched for past topics on this a didn't find any.** Has anyone heard more about this? It would have to come down on a National level but I haven't seen any announcement so not sure where this rumor came from. Lots of chatter around that they might be considering amending. Only thing I found was the minutes of Michigan Youth Soccer Association- www.michiganyouthsoccer.org/AssetFactory.aspx?did=3950They mention "US Soccer is considering amending the competitive age group registration to the calendar year"I know most of the world is birth year. ODP is birth year. I would think US Soccer would line up with the rest of the Fifa world. How do you think this will impact GA Soccer? Cheers, J4K
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Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 16, 2015 9:23:36 GMT -5
I grew up playing calendar year. Why did they switch? So kids played with school grade for college purposes?
It's just odd that ODP never switched and DA plays by calendar year also, granted its 2 years/ u14, u16, u18
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Post by youthsoccerdad on Feb 16, 2015 19:19:27 GMT -5
I like the current system, it is as fair as it can get.
If you look at most of the clubs "top" teams they are peppered starting at U9 with kids from early birthday months. When they get to U14 DA (and ODP earlier) it switches to calendar year. That gives all the kids that didn't get special attention all of those years a leg up. Either way none of the kids will probably ever play for anything more than a D2 school for boys or D1 for the the girls so it is all pretty irrelevant.
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Post by lovethegame on Feb 16, 2015 21:03:23 GMT -5
Playing with your school grade makes more sense to me. If you switch to calendar year you have 1/2 the players in one grade and 1/2 in the other. Then what do you do when the senior year comes around? A few of the players are still in high school (fall birthdays), while most head off to college. I'm not saying it couldn't work, I just don't see the advantage to changing.
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Post by dreaddy on Feb 17, 2015 11:43:56 GMT -5
Explained this some years ago on another forum.
Once upon a time the international cutoff for age groups was August 1st. At that time, the US Youth cutoff was January 1st. That's where we got the idea of naming teams by the year. Back in those days, all of the players on say, the '77 team were born in the year 1977. After many years of being at odds, US Youth decided to go with the international standard and change their cutoff to August 1st. This action caused a lot of grief with teams which were split apart by the change, but after a couple of years we all got over it.
Round about that time, just as the US was getting accustomed to the international cutoff date, FIFA came up with the brilliant idea of changing the international cutoff to January 1st. US Youth, having fresh memories of the recent upheaval were reluctant to change back and so decided to leave things the way the were. They have once again been at odds ever since.
So it is that FIFA uses the old US cutoff and US Youth uses the old FIFA cutoff. And they all lived happily ever after.
(After all, I started with "once upon a time", so I have to finish with "they all lived happily ever after".)
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jun 9, 2015 7:52:54 GMT -5
Rumors again are a float of switching back to January 1st cutoff, any truth??
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Post by guest on Jun 9, 2015 12:30:43 GMT -5
Here's a related question. What do U14 players do that have August birthdays that will be in high school this Spring? Play club or no?
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Post by soccerfan30 on Jun 9, 2015 13:00:52 GMT -5
Here's a related question. What do U14 players do that have August birthdays that will be in high school this Spring? Play club or no? Play both- had a girl on my U14 Tophat team that made Varsity at Paideia as a 9th, she did both.
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Post by lovethegame on Jun 9, 2015 13:08:29 GMT -5
Here's a related question. What do U14 players do that have August birthdays that will be in high school this Spring? Play club or no? Play both- had a girl on my U14 Tophat team that made Varsity at Paideia as a 9th, she did both. That works if the coaches are both willing to make concessions. My daughter's coaches wouldn't agree to let her miss any practices for either club or high school. So, she didn't play high school her freshman year. She was disappointed, but it probably worked out in the end.
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Post by Keeper on Jun 9, 2015 13:27:37 GMT -5
Are these rumors from Ga Soccer or US Soccer??
What would you all think if they staggered this? Say academy and down is calendar year while 13/14 and up could keep school year?
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Post by soccerfan30 on Jun 9, 2015 13:34:59 GMT -5
Play both- had a girl on my U14 Tophat team that made Varsity at Paideia as a 9th, she did both. That works if the coaches are both willing to make concessions. My daughter's coaches wouldn't agree to let her miss any practices for either club or high school. So, she didn't play high school her freshman year. She was disappointed, but it probably worked out in the end. All the private schools want their best athletes to play multiple sports as they have a smaller student body. If she missed a practice for a HS game she would come train with my other Tophat team to make it up, wasn't really an issue.
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Post by newposter on Jun 9, 2015 20:40:11 GMT -5
That works if the coaches are both willing to make concessions. My daughter's coaches wouldn't agree to let her miss any practices for either club or high school. So, she didn't play high school her freshman year. She was disappointed, but it probably worked out in the end. All the private schools want their best athletes to play multiple sports as they have a smaller student body. If she missed a practice for a HS game she would come train with my other Tophat team to make it up, wasn't really an issue.
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Post by newposter on Jun 9, 2015 20:42:20 GMT -5
My son plays U14 Select C1 and will be in 8th grade this year. He will play JV in the spring along with club ball.
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