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Post by soccerparent02 on Jun 22, 2021 13:34:05 GMT -5
I predict you will begin to see non-revenue sports going away. Universities rely on 2 sports to mostly fund their athletics (football and men's basketball). Even with this revenue, most college athletic programs operate in the red. Economics suggests there is no more money to give and if they take it, it is coming from non-revenue sports including soccer.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Jun 19, 2021 17:44:52 GMT -5
The players I referred to went to the colleges because of the soccer offering not checking thoroughly on the academic programming. They soon found they could not get the education field they wanted and transfered. Not every college is a fit both athletically and academically. Our kid figured that out and chose academics over athletics. It was a very mature decision for kid of their age. We fully supported that decision. I agsin congratulate kids who play soccer but caution them to look big picture.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Jun 19, 2021 11:50:51 GMT -5
Kid always kept original box and receipt inside in their closet. We took a pair back to store we purchased them from as that pair separated from the leather and cleat. It was within their 90 day return. Also returned several pairs within the year warranty. I cannot speak to how many pairs we returned but was more than 2 and no questions asked. Always received full credit but as I said we had the original box and receipt.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Jun 19, 2021 11:34:28 GMT -5
Kid played at big club ECNL. Turned down offers from all levels including D1. Decided that staying home at top university was more important. Like another poster said will make more money in their degree field first year out of college and the Zell helps immensely. Good luck to those playing college soccer but remember all but a very very very few are at college for a degree. I know several who realized this too late and spent several years at a university for soccer not academics.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Jun 16, 2021 11:41:39 GMT -5
We always bought top big brand name. Most times because of the amount of wear put in them (5 days a week), we got replacements free due to a credit back on one year warranty.
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Post by soccerparent02 on May 27, 2021 19:04:20 GMT -5
So correct about teams often at the highest levels picked before tryouts start. There may be one possibly 2 potential spot left. Also remember, players know who top players are as well so current top players will recruit top off other team so often those 2 spots are already filled. Top players play top players each week and have since u13.
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Post by soccerparent02 on May 27, 2021 17:05:40 GMT -5
I will say that once a kid hits u14 most top players are well known. Those kids will be offered soon after tryouts start as Ive seen it happen personally. There is no chance a coach lets them out of the park the first night without offering. If a kid is called after 3rd night, they likely should take the offer as it may not be there tomorrow.
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Post by soccerparent02 on May 24, 2021 16:36:41 GMT -5
If one looks around the MLS the last few years, there are few homegrown players making bank. Go check our local MLS team to see who they have brought in for players. I dont see a lot of homegrowns.
I would encourage parents to make a good decision with their kid and honestly explore all options. Our kid had many college offers from all levels. Ultimately they decided to turn them all down in favor of a prestigious academic university. We supported that decision and continue to do so.
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Post by soccerparent02 on May 23, 2021 14:20:17 GMT -5
Kid played defender at big 5 top club for several years after moving back from center mid. Coach took him out with 5 minutes left in first and sat at least firdt 5 in second. Those 10 minutes along with the half time minutes provided the needed rest. He experienced no injuries. I attribute it to his coaches approach to training and game day decisions.
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Post by soccerparent02 on May 12, 2021 17:10:01 GMT -5
At older ages, the big 5 will get the best players for the most part with no recruiting needed. The top players know where the exposure to the next level coaches will come from.
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Post by soccerparent02 on May 9, 2021 9:38:02 GMT -5
Having been around the game w kid playing highest levelsfor 15 plus years, I would argue mixing teams does not produce best team. Chemistry and teamwork takes a long time to develop. Further did you compare playing rosters with teams there to the clubs top team rosters? Thx for the dialogue...enjoy your day.
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Post by soccerparent02 on May 9, 2021 8:30:10 GMT -5
I think the fact that it appears from posters that teams were mixed used as "tryouts", etc. says it all. It was not clear if the top teams from the big clubs played.
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Post by soccerparent02 on May 8, 2021 19:25:55 GMT -5
Those are generalities. My point is that the top club teams were not all there. Several listed are second and third tier clubs at older ages.
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Post by soccerparent02 on May 8, 2021 14:02:14 GMT -5
I would question roster integrity. I thought each team was required to submit a roster that is checked before each game. With a very few exceptions for an occasional guest player, the roster does not change. If one team has carte blanche on roster changes, then all do and are free to do whatever they want. If they want to play u13 at u14, then do it every game.
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Post by soccerparent02 on May 8, 2021 13:27:02 GMT -5
Checked Unite Cup teams. Not to be disrespectful but several participants are not in the top club conversations. A couple age groups missing several of the known top clubs.
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Post by soccerparent02 on May 3, 2021 8:56:25 GMT -5
After day 1, a coach knows if thty are offering and will. They arent letting talent go to another club. This is especially true atvthe older ages where they likely know the players well.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Apr 25, 2021 8:33:41 GMT -5
Dont forget that recruiting is also done by current players returning to a team. Coaches may have a date they may contact a player, players do not. As its been said again and again, bu u13/u14 or u15, its widely known who the best players at each are. They've been playing since u6.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Apr 25, 2021 8:32:24 GMT -5
Dont forget that recruiting is also done by current players returning to a team. Coaches may have a date they may contact a player, players do not. As its been said again and again, bu u13/u14 or u15, its widely known who the best players at each are. They've been playing since u6.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Apr 21, 2021 18:24:32 GMT -5
It was our experience when trying out for the top teams at the older ages, those decisions are made quickly. The top team coaches know the top players and are offering early. They arent letting a kid walk away.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Apr 15, 2021 11:36:50 GMT -5
Remember colleges use the camps ds $ makers. If your kid gets a blanket invite without their name the college is likely not interested except forvthe money. If they are personally invited the Coach is likely intrrested. The top leagues will have showcase opportunities. College cosches will attend these as they will have all the top players in one location. This saves on travel expenses and time.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Apr 10, 2021 13:01:33 GMT -5
DA was a cluster as far as results for the mens aNd ECNL was and is still the top league for girls. At this point ECNL is tops for boys as well. MLS run teams are on par with top ECNL but with a different purpose. MLS Next is still a huge questiin. I think parents and players are not so sold any more. Look at original AU class...only 1 has developed into a player for top club. AU again has gone out and purchased a team rather than developing.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Apr 7, 2021 8:48:36 GMT -5
I suggest you reach out to clubs to see which ones may have some flexibility i.e. training once or twice a week on weeknights along with weekends versus 3 times.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Apr 4, 2021 8:39:57 GMT -5
Agree - AU has not had much success in their academy thus far if you look at their current results of the original group. Look whst they did this off season with one signing after another after another from the outside most if not all from Latin and South America. That is not development.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Mar 28, 2021 12:01:08 GMT -5
Please do your research. Also know your goals for your child and what your vhild desires for soccer as these impact where you go. Kids in it only for fun, rec is good. Kids wanting a little more competition, a bigger club program may be needed. Will say by u13/14, best players in state gravitate to the big 5 clubs as their teams tend to be tops in age group in southeast and US. Good luck!
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Post by soccerparent02 on Mar 13, 2021 18:43:30 GMT -5
Players actively recruit players from other clubs. The players know by u13/u14 who the best players are in the state. They've been playing against each other for years. This happens a lot.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Mar 8, 2021 20:49:48 GMT -5
The issue with Zoom is theres a lot that can be missed i.e. how does a player warm up, act towards teammates before and after a game, act while not on the field. Those may not be viewed on zoom. Its also more difficult to speak with a potential recruit and get a clear picture of who they are. I find this true of interviewing potential new hires as well. Just my two cents...
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Post by soccerparent02 on Mar 8, 2021 18:40:27 GMT -5
In reference to big events, those are put on by ECNL OR previously DA. College coaches go to showcases where best of the best play. Thats now ECNL who has arguably the best girls and boys teams. It may go to MLS Next but that remains to be seen.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Mar 7, 2021 10:03:04 GMT -5
It was our experience that many coaches attended the top league big events. From there they sent camp emails with an invitation with the players first name. Precovid, this often included mentioning where they saw them play. Going to these big events ensures they have a majority of the top players all in one location. Travel budgets for non revenue sports are limited.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Feb 5, 2021 23:14:24 GMT -5
HS soccer social aspect is the reason to play. Lots of players who play ECNL play high school to play with friends and represent their school. They also go on to play D1 and other college levels. MLS next likely will go the way of its predecessor. Lets revisit this in 3 yrs to see.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Jan 20, 2021 19:02:44 GMT -5
Poster is correct about summer. The goal is to make it to Alabama (top 18 which is top 16 plus 2 goalies). From there, make the Region pool which provides potential for more exposure and great competition. Most players on kids team were ECNL from top clubs.
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