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Post by SoccerMom on May 25, 2015 20:20:27 GMT -5
Without getting into details.... Your statement about the UFA game is simply not true, couple of DSC dads were rude and obnoxious during the game against a couple of moms and dropping curse words. And there was no good job anything after the game, just a bunch of remarks about how they took SC away from UFA. And about your earlier statement about the game being very close... I believe DSC had one shot and it was 10 ft over the goal. UFA couldnt score after numerous attempts and thats what it all came down to. Well - you got the last laugh tonight. Hope you made it home OK in all this rain. We stayed after our game to watch U13G GSA-Concorde and it was a good match. Thanks lol... Havent made it home yet...stopped for some amazing bbq in Columbus! GSA-CF game was right next to us, it was a close game and then idk what happened and GSA started ripping them! Top 4 seeded teams from u13 girls side made it to next weekend, the same can't be said about the boys side tho, i heard only 1 did (gsa)
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 25, 2015 21:10:15 GMT -5
Getting to the 2nd weekend is not an easy task with only 1 team advancing from each group. 3 games in 3 days might be harder than 2 on sat and 1 on Sunday. It's a long weekend and a very cool experience.
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Post by SoccerMom on May 25, 2015 21:16:05 GMT -5
Getting to the 2nd weekend is not an easy task with only 1 team advancing from each group. 3 games in 3 days might be harder than 2 on sat and 1 on Sunday. It's a long weekend and a very cool experience. You mean 2 games overall on Saturday? Its one game each day for each team
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 25, 2015 21:18:56 GMT -5
Yes. I think 3 games in 3 days is tougher mentally than 3 games in 2 days.
But 2 games in one day in that heat would be brutal!!!!!
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Post by soccerdad44 on May 26, 2015 6:58:49 GMT -5
When I think of the worst experiences in academy, both involve DSC parents getting out of hand, going out of their way to try to get in a fight and yelling for their kids to "take out" a player on the other team. These happened at U9 and U11. I know many parents would be glad to never see DSC on a schedule again.
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Post by guest on May 26, 2015 8:24:39 GMT -5
I sat next to a UFA Dad in the stands and had nice conversation with him throughout the match (breaking my own rule about never talking to the other side). I don't doubt your experience, but I just simply didn't see or hear any of that. And we had two small kids in the stands with us. Swear words always get a lot of attention from us. And after the game, I was standing by the fence by the parking lot and concession stand and personally 'Good Match'ed several of the UFA players who walked by. And I heard many other similiar comments, from both sides. And as far as taking SC away from UFA, that just shows that person's ignorance. Like the UFA dad next to me said, 'a tie is as good as a win for us', knowing that you could pile on the goals against SSA and TH. Which is exactly what you did. Honestly for me watching my daughter match up against some of the best players in the Southeast, it was a fantastic experience. Perhaps there was a culture in the past that tolerated or even promoted poor behavior. We went through a lot of DOCs in a few years. But we have a good one now for the last two years and he has made some great changes, including parent education. Perhaps it (sideline behavior) is a bit like the Titanic. It doesn't turn on a dime. Some coaches/parents/players have already moved on. Some are still with us and it is the responsibility of the other parents to remind them of what it is that we want to be as a club. We can't just move our chairs further down the sidelines out of earshot. I am reminded of the old quote "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Lastly, kudos to our players who in their first season of promotion to Athena A won two and tied one at their first SC.
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Post by SoccerMom on May 26, 2015 8:36:02 GMT -5
I sat next to a UFA Dad in the stands and had nice conversation with him throughout the match (breaking my own rule about never talking to the other side). I don't doubt your experience, but I just simply didn't see or hear any of that. And we had two small kids in the stands with us. Swear words always get a lot of attention from us. And after the game, I was standing by the fence by the parking lot and concession stand and personally 'Good Match'ed several of the UFA players who walked by. And I heard many other similiar comments, from both sides. And as far as taking SC away from UFA, that just shows that person's ignorance. Like the UFA dad next to me said, 'a tie is as good as a win for us', knowing that you could pile on the goals against SSA and TH. Which is exactly what you did. Honestly for me watching my daughter match up against some of the best players in the Southeast, it was a fantastic experience. Perhaps there was a culture in the past that tolerated or even promoted poor behavior. We went through a lot of DOCs in a few years. But we have a good one now for the last two years and he has made some great changes, including parent education. Perhaps it (sideline behavior) is a bit like the Titanic. It doesn't turn on a dime. Some coaches/parents/players have already moved on. Some are still with us and it is the responsibility of the other parents to remind them of what it is that we want to be as a club. We can't just move our chairs further down the sidelines out of earshot. I am reminded of the old quote "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Lastly, kudos to our players who in their first season of promotion to Athena A won two and tied one at their first SC. Well it happened and we had to ask him to keep it down, and not to curse. He was hanging out with the dad who the police had to get called on the next day. Im happy to hear that you were not one of those parents this weekend and that you enjoyed the experience. I have a lot of friends in opposing teams and I dont have a problem speaking and or socializing with them.
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Post by quest on May 26, 2015 10:29:39 GMT -5
My daughter plays on the SSA team and I was there through all the non-sense and was really disappointed at the entire situation. I don't want to add anything to the negative that was accurately stated in an earlier post so I thought I would add something positive. Not long after the incident one of the DSC players was hurt and needed to be helped off the field. They were standing behind us (player and mother) and she was in real pain and was not able to walk. After a couple of minutes one of our parents carried the player to where the parents were siting. We are all parents and need to understand that these are children playing a game that they love. We need to allow them to play and make it about them not us.
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Post by soccerisfun on May 26, 2015 10:55:03 GMT -5
Just to be clear, I was there. The DSC dad in question was standing on the SSA side, and SSA was defending, so it wasn't the keepers dad. He was actually pretty well behaved until half-time. As he walked past the SSA parents, he made some derogatory comments about the SSA team. One of the SSA moms said something to the effect of "just go down to your side if you are going to make those comments". The DSC dad then said "I will stand wherever I want to", and effectively challenged the mom to make him move. Not cool, and as a man you don't make those remarks to a woman. I'm sorry, but you just don't. One of the SSA dads took offense, and told the DSC dad to take it to his own side, whereby the DSC dad again said "why don't you make me". In my opinion the DSC dad was looking for a fight. There was some pushing and arguing, and the DSC dad challenged about 5 parents to a fight. The police were correctly called, names were taken, and then it should have been settled. However, after the game the DSC parents were taunting and talking trash to the SSA players. I was there. I heard it. Really, really, classless. These are 13 year old girls. DSC played well and finished their chances, so hats off to them. However, the DSC parents are doing their girls a disservice. And the DSC coaches who tolerate this behavior are are damaging the reputation of their club. I will not be recruiting, promoting, or otherwise facilitating the progress of any of the DSC girls based upon what I saw today. First of all, there are 2 sides to every story and if the majority of the complaining comes from the team that lost, then it is wise to take that into consideration. I was there as well. I personally witnessed the same SSA guy involved get into an altercation on the side lines of a super Y game last summer ... WITH IS OWN team parent. Yes, this unfortunate altercation erupted out of parental idiocy and everyone needs to remember what this is all about... THE KIDS!! Parents should be able to behave without a sprayed painted line that divides what they perceive as their "territory". That game was obviously going to run high with competitiveness and emotion since the 2 teams tied the weekend prior. SSA brought in 2-4 guest players and then lost. It was a good game! and BTW, the DSC dad did not challenge 5 parents to a fight... DSC parents were holding their dad back and more SSA parents decided to challenge. It's all really silly "he said/she said". Let's get back to work folks. Support your kids and remember that less than 5% really make it to a NCAA school and less than that beyond that point.
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Post by zizou on May 26, 2015 11:34:13 GMT -5
Okay. I am now writing this as a Moderator, not as a participating member. Continuing to defend the indefensible with examples of alleged outrageous behavior is probably crossing the line. It is time to stop. I have also heard a number of examples of parenting fails from people who were on the scene but there is no need to stoke the flames. I also was not there and do not know what is the most accurate recounting of events. It is quite clear from studies of eye witness testimony in court cases that even people who were at the scene of a crime do not really remember what happened except through the haze of their own bias. Stop believing you are immune to the forces of human nature. I was kind of hoping that the quest post about the nice gesture by one parent would provide a nice wrap up. At this point, unless someone has videotape and/or a copy of the police report they would like to post here, it is best to stop going down this road any further.
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Post by soccermom3 on May 26, 2015 12:57:37 GMT -5
I do agree that parents should be able to behave without a spray painted line marking off territory. I do however feel it shows decent soccer etiquette to not run your mouth when you are standing near the parents of the opposing team. This same DSC father was saying negative things as well as arguing calls with which he disagreed throughout the first half while standing amongst the SSA parents. He behaved himself in the same manner at the previous match between the same two teams less than two weeks prior. I frequently go to the other side to watch my daughter play but I will keep as quiet as a church mouse out of respect to the opposing parents and passion for the game. Tensions get high and we need to act accordingly to not stoke the fire.
Once police were called and separated the two fathers (which was the correct thing to do because BOTH of their actions were HIGHLY inappropriate for all involved and very unfortunate for our girls), Two teenage girls (his daughter and friend?) decided to stand behind our parents and continue with the "mouth running". We all saw it. After the game was over, they circled like sharks smirking and saying snide comments under their breaths to parents and players. Who does this?
So yes, we SHOULD be able to act with decorum and NOT have to worry about territory. However, I don't know if that is possible with DSC.
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Post by soccerisfun on May 26, 2015 13:47:39 GMT -5
Okay. I am now writing this as a Moderator, not as a participating member. Continuing to defend the indefensible with examples of alleged outrageous behavior is probably crossing the line. It is time to stop. I have also heard a number of examples of parenting fails from people who were on the scene but there is no need to stoke the flames. I also was not there and do not know what is the most accurate recounting of events. It is quite clear from studies of eye witness testimony in court cases that even people who were at the scene of a crime do not really remember what happened except through the haze of their own bias. Stop believing you are immune to the forces of human nature. I was kind of hoping that the quest post about the nice gesture by one parent would provide a nice wrap up. At this point, unless someone has videotape and/or a copy of the police report they would like to post here, it is best to stop going down this road any further. AMEN! I agree. There are definitely 3 sides to the story. our side, their side and what really happened. Enough is enough. Not defending any of the behavior. BUT NO ONE was innocent. Own the actions and learn a lesson. Let's move on and look forward to some good competition next season.
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Post by spectator on May 27, 2015 9:48:00 GMT -5
Wow - We had early games with no drama at all so I'm glad I missed all that craziness.
The only issue we had was with a team's parents at our hotel - they were out by the pool partying all the time while their kids ran wild through the halls until well after 10pm. It was a young team probably U13 and apparently every kid had a younger sibling based on the number of kids and volume of the stampede through the halls. Hotel did little to nothing to stop it and thankfully a very grumpy older man and his wife took matters into their own hands when he came out into the hallway and stopped a group of boys running (and I believe scared them half to death by actually disciplining them verbally - something mommy and daddy obviously never do) while his wife marched to the lobby and told the parents to come get their kids or she'd call the police. Much huffing and puffing ensued by the parents but within 5 minutes it was finally quiet in the halls.
I tried to thank that couple the next day but I think they had checked out. You really have to feel sorry for the average normal traveller who gets stuck in a hotel with teams on tournament weekends. But regardless, parents, especially of younger teams, supervise your children or find an activity that doesn't involve them annoying other guests! I was highly peeved at the parents - they were very rude to everyone including the front desk staff. There's just no need for that. Couldn't determine the team - no magnets on cars and we never saw the team in uniform - only running wild at night.
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