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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 1, 2015 18:35:44 GMT -5
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Post by rifle on Jul 1, 2015 19:38:01 GMT -5
a generous non DOGSO call
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Post by zizou on Jul 2, 2015 8:38:00 GMT -5
Some summaries of Law 12 from FIFA:
A. If the referee makes use of the advantage during an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and a goal is scored directly, despite the opponent’s handling the ball or fouling an opponent, the player cannot be sent off but he can still be cautioned (included for completeness).
B. Criteria for deciding when to penalise for denying an obvious goal-scoring opportunity: 1. The direction of the play. 2. The location of the foul. 3. The proximity of the player to the ball. 4. The probability of controlling the ball. 5. The location and number of opponents. 6. The opportunity for the attempt on goal.
I can understand why a yellow and not a red. Torn, but I think judicious call was yellow in this instance.
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Post by zizou on Jul 2, 2015 10:47:16 GMT -5
By the way, I know people have been harping on this PK call (and whether it should have been a red) and the Morgan PK call (and whether it should have been simply a free kick), but there are always any number of CR decisions that happen in any match that could end up influencing the game in a major way. In this game, just a few instances:
1. Maier was getting beat by Rapinoe all day, got frustrated, and could have easily been sent off for absolutely chopping down Rapinoe (after she was already on a yellow). 2. Why was Popp even allowed to continue playing throughout the first half with visible blood on her head?! 3. Morgan was absolutely pulled down from behind (by Krahn?) in the box in the first half. Don't care that there were other German defenders nearby. Morgan had clear control of ball. Krahn pulls her down from behind two-handed. This is a foul anywhere else on the field. Not even debatable if it happens anywhere else on the field.
Just a few examples. I know this was not a thread about excuses, but CRs can be faulted on a large number of plays. Have to give it to Hingst (she has been really good I think) for saying calls did not determine game; USWNT were just better on the day.
On another note, for me, the luster is off Dr. Joe!
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Post by chevy on Jul 2, 2015 11:08:18 GMT -5
yes, it was a red card but since the beginning refs have been making so many errors. Better training for the refs is must have. Last night 2 bad pk decisions in england vs japan game as well.
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Post by chevy on Jul 2, 2015 11:12:34 GMT -5
Some summaries of Law 12 from FIFA: A. If the referee makes use of the advantage during an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and a goal is scored directly, despite the opponent’s handling the ball or fouling an opponent, the player cannot be sent off but he can still be cautioned (included for completeness). B. Criteria for deciding when to penalise for denying an obvious goal-scoring opportunity: 1. The direction of the play. 2. The location of the foul. 3. The proximity of the player to the ball. 4. The probability of controlling the ball. 5. The location and number of opponents. 6. The opportunity for the attempt on goal. I can understand why a yellow and not a red. Torn, but I think judicious call was yellow in this instance.
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Post by volunteercoach on Jul 2, 2015 11:58:24 GMT -5
I was at the game (it was AWESOME) only a few rows up between midfield and the 18 area on one side. I have been to a lot of soccer games but this was hands down the best because I was so close to the field. Watching from home it is very easy to pick apart the players and the refs. The reality of the situation was it was a very fast, physical game, something that I think gets lost on TV giving the birds eye view. The JJ foul happend on the other end of the field so I didn't get a good view, she was lucky to get away with the yellow, though the German player did embellish. I watched Rapinoe get absolutely rocked all game. It's like they were out for blood on her, they were probably the most physical against her. The Morgan foul, in real time from my view looked like it was a PK. Again, it was a bit dramatic on her end but it looked to occur in the box (looking at clips afterwards I would say it was outside). The only person at that point who could have said otherwise would have been the AR and she was far side. At the pace Morgan moves forward, it was so difficult to see at field level. And the OHara goal...it was so fast. The cross, the finish, just lighting speed.
I guess what I'm trying to say is at this level of play, calls at field level would be SO hard to make. The referee did miss a lot on both ends but she let them play ball. Maybe a box referee can be used in the future, who knows.
Also watching the game, Morgan Brian is such an understated, great player. So smart with the balll and organized. I think her in that role has helped this team tremendously.
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Post by stevieg on Jul 2, 2015 14:09:56 GMT -5
I do hate the triple punishment for a GSO foul. 1) penalty 2) red card 3) suspension. I can see that coming into the ref's thinking as well.
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Post by zizou on Jul 2, 2015 16:19:52 GMT -5
I do hate the triple punishment for a GSO foul. 1) penalty 2) red card 3) suspension. I can see that coming into the ref's thinking as well. As do I. I do not like this rule at all. Never have. Too harsh a punishment, especially in a situation like that one.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 2, 2015 17:58:15 GMT -5
What I hate is fouls in the corner of the box when their is no threat to school and the team is awarded a pk. Same with a handball.
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Post by stevieg on Jul 2, 2015 18:45:07 GMT -5
What I hate is fouls in the corner of the box when their is no threat to score and the team is awarded a pk. Same with a handball. A foul is a foul. If it's in the box, it's a penalty. Players know that (or should).
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