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Post by jash on Sept 19, 2013 21:06:13 GMT -5
Add your questions and answers as replies, and I'll try to keep this up to date. In Athena and Classic (Select) games, sometimes a score is shown as CC, CS, or CSC. What is that?
Scores and other game data are entered by the team managers of BOTH teams. The required data includes the game score and a listing of any cards (yellow and/or red) that were issued during the game. For the cards, the player, the type of card, and the reason for the card must be entered. If any of the information entered by the two team managers does not match, then the entry is considered "contested". This rarely actually means that it is contested, just that someone put the information in incorrectly. CS means the score didn't match, CC means the entered cards don't match, and CSC means both the score and card information don't match. What is the "Club Pass" system that allows players to play with other teams at their club during the regular season?Within his or her own club, a player can "guest play" with a higher level team. If the teams are the same age level, the player has to play UP a Classic/Athena level. If the other team is older, then that team has to be the same or higher Classic/Athena level. Players can only play for one team on any given day, and only three club pass players can be used in any game. The full details are very intricate, and a full description can be found here: www.georgiasoccer.org/assets/pdfs/Club_Pass_Policy.pdfWhat are all these things I keep hearing about? Academy, Select, Athena, Classic, DA, ECNL, R3PL, RIAS, ODP, NPL, Super Y, etc.?Academy - U9 through U12 players who generally train more and play more "serious" soccer than recreational players at the same age. There are generally tryouts, though my understanding is that generally nobody is turned away. Select - U13 through U19 players who generally train more and play more "serious" soccer than recreational players at the same age. This is sometimes called "travel soccer" although the term is not quite accurate. Athena - select soccer for females. Generally levels are from "Athena A" (the top) through "Athena F" Classic - select soccer for males. Generally levels are from "Classic 1" (the top) through "Classic 5" ODP - Olympic Development Program, a training program for selected players - www.georgiasoccer.org/odp/odp_frequently_asked_questions_faq/ECNL - Elite Clubs National League for U14 through U18 girls - www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/RPL (aka SRPL) is Regional Premier League for full Region III (South): schedules for 2013 are at events.gotsport.com/events/default.aspx?EventID=32489PLE is Premier League East (formerly known as R3PL or R3PLE): schedules for 2013 are at events.gotsport.com/events/default.aspx?EventID=32493NL is National League (top teams across USYS regions and different from NPL): www.usyouthsoccer.org/national_league/DA or USSF DA - The US Soccer Federation Development Academy - a high level national league with teams at U13/U14, U15/U16, and U17/U18 levels - www.ussoccer.com/teams/development-academy/academy.aspxNPL - National Premier League - www.usclubsoccer.org/main.aspx?sec_id=14&guid=93a5666b-2339-4505-acfa-cbce7e8bbd65Super Y - A summer league run by US Youth Soccer - supery.uslsoccer.com/RIAS - A recreational league with inter-club scheduling - www.georgiasoccer.org/programs/recreational-soccer.aspx |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 8:49:18 GMT -5
might be helpful to explain the difference between academy and athena/classic etc.
pooling players in academy vs definitive set rosters for athena/classic.
maybe a brief explanation of the player pass system for athena/classic.
great stuff, you might become a legend over here.
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Post by jash on Sept 20, 2013 10:53:32 GMT -5
might be helpful to explain the difference between academy and athena/classic etc. pooling players in academy vs definitive set rosters for athena/classic. maybe a brief explanation of the player pass system for athena/classic. great stuff, you might become a legend over here. Added a link for Academy vs Athena/Classic. For the other stuff... want to take a stab at writing some of it? My view of academy was limited by the club where my kid played, and I don't think everyone does academy the same. Club pass is a great idea, but I know the rules are highly technical. Maybe a TM or coach here could write something up? I'll edit it into the original post. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2013 8:28:08 GMT -5
Club pass is a little confusing, the gist really is, kids can't play down, they can only play up.
i think most clubs have good descriptions of academy, so don't think we need to waste the space here. The link i think answers the questions! thanks for sharing .
i'm sure the thing that will come up on the forum is pooling vs not pooling players at the academy system.
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Post by jash on Sept 23, 2013 11:40:58 GMT -5
Club pass is a little confusing, the gist really is, kids can't play down, they can only play up. i think most clubs have good descriptions of academy, so don't think we need to waste the space here. The link i think answers the questions! thanks for sharing . i'm sure the thing that will come up on the forum is pooling vs not pooling players at the academy system. I edited club pass a little bit. I think the main points are covered, and then the link gets the details if people really want them. As to the pooling question, do you want to take a shot at writing a question/answer for it? |
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Post by spectator on Nov 3, 2013 10:08:06 GMT -5
Can someone explain the specific (if any) penalties for red and yellow cards - to the team not the individual player? A team in our bracket has six yellow cards - will any points be deducted from their final standings for that? Yellow cards have 0 points but it seems to me if a team starts racking them up consistently throughout a season, there should be some repercussions.
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Post by pooldawg on Nov 3, 2013 20:29:50 GMT -5
Our ref tonight made us switch corners on a corner kick. The play that resulted in the corner kick was a shot on goal, and it cleared the top of the goal almost dead center. Is there a rule on which corner you have to take it? Goalies can switch up where they take goal kicks.
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Post by pooldawg on Nov 3, 2013 20:30:51 GMT -5
Can someone explain the specific (if any) penalties for red and yellow cards - to the team not the individual player? A team in our bracket has six yellow cards - will any points be deducted from their final standings for that? Yellow cards have 0 points but it seems to me if a team starts racking them up consistently throughout a season, there should be some repercussions. You would think it would make a difference, but I don't think they accrue points. However, if an individual player gets 3 in a season, he/she has to sit out the next game. |
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Post by dreaddy on Nov 4, 2013 17:00:34 GMT -5
Our ref tonight made us switch corners on a corner kick. The play that resulted in the corner kick was a shot on goal, and it cleared the top of the goal almost dead center. Is there a rule on which corner you have to take it? Goalies can switch up where they take goal kicks. A corner kick is to be taken at the corner on the side where the ball went out. For a ball that went out wide to the goal, that's usually easy. For one that went out dead middle over the crossbar it's up to the referee to decide which corner to take it from. |
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Post by dreaddy on Nov 4, 2013 17:02:43 GMT -5
Can someone explain the specific (if any) penalties for red and yellow cards - to the team not the individual player? A team in our bracket has six yellow cards - will any points be deducted from their final standings for that? Yellow cards have 0 points but it seems to me if a team starts racking them up consistently throughout a season, there should be some repercussions. You would think it would make a difference, but I don't think they accrue points. However, if an individual player gets 3 in a season, he/she has to sit out the next game. No penalty points for cautions (yellow cards). The only repercussion, as pointed out, is against the player not the team. |
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 10, 2014 10:24:06 GMT -5
So does a team start off at PLE and then if they win they go on to RPL or is it two diff things?
RPL (aka SRPL) is Regional Premier League for full Region III (South)
PLE is Premier League East (formerly known as R3PL or R3PLE)
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Post by stevieg on Sept 10, 2014 10:37:27 GMT -5
So does a team start off at PLE and then if they win they go on to RPL or is it two diff things? RPL (aka SRPL) is Regional Premier League for full Region III (South) PLE is Premier League East (formerly known as R3PL or R3PLE) I believe that is the case, although teams still play in both when they make it to RPL. Matches against RPL opponents who are also in PLE (for example TH v. UFA), count in both leagues. |
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 10, 2014 10:43:43 GMT -5
I guess im still a little confused, I will figure it out as it happens I guess
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Post by dreaddy on Sept 10, 2014 11:13:25 GMT -5
It is all very confusing and additionally so because right now there are two different tracks for the Premier Leagues.
The Old Track:
This is for the U14's up. The top 3 teams in PLE get an automatic place in the RPL the following year. They still play in the PLE however. PLE consists of 4 states: GA, FL, NC & SC.
The New Track:
This will start with this year's U13's and follow that age group and subsequent age groups. PLE will be divided into North and South divisions with 3 states in each. We will have GA, FL & AL. Each state can have 0, 2 or 4 teams in the division. The top teams move up to RPL, the bottom teams are sent back to their state league - relegation and promotion!
This simplification may not explain it all for you, but I hope it helps.
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 10, 2014 11:47:53 GMT -5
it does explain it better...thank!! but I guess my new question now is what is SPL? is that just another name it goes by?
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Post by dreaddy on Sept 10, 2014 12:06:22 GMT -5
SPL was last year's name (Southern Premier League). Now it's RPL (Regional Premier League) as opposed to PLE (Premier League East). I'll fix that...
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 10, 2014 13:21:24 GMT -5
Thanks for the info!
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 10, 2014 21:38:50 GMT -5
Awards....i see I have one now under my avatar..thanks!!...how do you earn those?
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Post by jash on Apr 6, 2015 15:42:38 GMT -5
If anybody actually knows what is going on with R3PL PLE SPL NPL etc. AND can explain it coherently, I'd love to amend the original post to include current and accurate information.
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Post by epicsoccertraining on Jan 2, 2016 17:37:53 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 16, 2019 17:16:19 GMT -5
A tabular 2019-2020 leagues and clubs by year by gender (older ages first) in Georgia. This is prior to any SCCL expansion or Tophat girls potentially losing ECNL. The strength of the SAPL/SCCL/NL can and has been debated, for the time being I gave them the same strength. Thoughts? Boys:
League Strength
| League | Managing Organization
| League Type
| Play Seasons
| Ages
| Clubs
| 1
| Development Academy (DA)
| US Soccer Federation (USSF)
| Regional/National
| Fall/Spring
| U15 (05), U17 (03), U19 (01)
| Atlanta United, Concorde Fire, UFA
| 1
| Development Academy (DA)
| US Soccer Federation (USSF)
| Regional/National
| Fall/Spring
| U13 (07)-U14 (06)
| AFC, Atlanta United, Concorde Fire, LSA, NASA (NTH), SSA, UFA
| | 2 | Elite Clubs National League (ECNL) | US Club Soccer
| Regional/National
| Fall/Winter
| U15 (05), U17 (03), U19 (01)
| Atlanta Fire, Concorde Fire, GSA, NASA (NTH)
| 2
| Elite Clubs National League (ECNL)
| US Club Soccer
| Regional/National
| Fall/Spring
| U13 (07)-U14 (06)
| Atlanta Fire, Concorde Fire, GSA, NASA (NTH)
| 2
| National League (NL)
| US Youth Soccer (USYS)
| National
| Winter/Spring
| U14 (06)-U19 (01)
| Promotion from National League Piedmont Conference
| | 3 | South Atlantic Premier League (NPL)
| US Club Soccer
| Regional
| Fall/Spring
| U12 (08)-U17 (03), U19 (01)
| AFC, SSA, UFA
| | 3 | Southeastern Clubs Champions League (SCCL)
| US Club Soccer
| Regional
| Fall
| U15 (05)-U17 (03), U19 (01)
| Concorde Fire, GSA, NASA (NTH), SSA, UFA
| 3
| Southeastern Clubs Champions League (SCCL)
| US Club Soccer
| Regional
| Fall/Spring
| U12 (08)-U14 (06)
| Concorde Fire, GSA, NASA (NTH), SSA, UFA
| | 3 | National League Piedmont Conference (NL)
| US Youth Soccer (USYS)
| Regional
| Fall
| U14 (06)-U19 (01)
| Varies by promotion/relegation from Georgia Soccer (2 tiers with promotion/relegation)
| 3
| National League Piedmont Conference (NL)
| US Youth Soccer (USYS)
| Regional
| Spring
| U13 (07)
| Varies by promotion/relegation from Georgia Soccer (2 tiers with promotion/relegation)
| | 4 | Georgia Soccer
| US Youth Soccer (USYS)
| State
| Fall
| U16 (04)-U19 (01)
| Classic I-Classic IV with promotion/relegation
| 4
| Georgia Soccer
| US Youth Soccer (USYS)
| State
| Fall/Spring
| U12 (08)-U15 (05)
| Classic I-Classic IV with promotion/relegation
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Girls:
League Strength
| League | Managing Organization
| League Type
| Play Seasons
| Ages
| Clubs
| 1
| Development Academy (DA)
| US Soccer Federation (USSF)
| Regional/National
| Fall/Spring
| U14 (06)-U17 (03), U19 (01)
| Tophat (NTH), UFA
| | 1 | Elite Clubs National League (ECNL) | US Club Soccer
| Regional/National
| Fall/Winter
| U15 (05), U17 (03), U19 (01)
| Atlanta Fire, Concorde Fire (2 teams), GSA, Tophat (NTH)
| 1
| Elite Clubs National League (ECNL)
| US Club Soccer
| Regional/National
| Fall/Spring
| U13 (07)-U14 (06)
| Atlanta Fire, Concorde Fire (2 teams), GSA, Tophat (NTH)
| 1
| National League (NL)
| US Youth Soccer (USYS)
| National
| Winter/Spring
| U14 (06)-U19 (01)
| Promotion from National League Piedmont Conference
| | 2 | South Atlantic Premier League (NPL)
| US Club Soccer
| Regional
| Fall/Spring
| U12 (08)-U17 (03), U19 (01)
| AFC, SSA, UFA
| | 2 | Southeastern Clubs Champions League (SCCL)
| US Club Soccer
| Regional
| Fall
| U15 (05)-U17 (03), U19 (01)
| Concorde Fire, GSA, Tophat (NTH), SSA, UFA
| 2
| Southeastern Clubs Champions League (SCCL)
| US Club Soccer
| Regional
| Fall/Spring
| U12 (08)-U14 (06)
| Concorde Fire, GSA, Tophat (NTH), SSA, UFA
| | 2 | National League Piedmont Conference (NL)
| US Youth Soccer (USYS)
| Regional
| Fall
| U14 (06)-U19 (01)
| Varies by promotion/relegation from Georgia Soccer
| 2
| National League Piedmont Conference (NL)
| US Youth Soccer (USYS)
| Regional
| Spring
| U13 (07)
| Varies by promotion/relegation from Georgia Soccer
| | 3 | Georgia Soccer
| US Youth Soccer (USYS)
| State
| Fall
| U16 (04)-U19 (01)
| Athena A-Athena D with promotion/relegation
| 3
| Georgia Soccer
| US Youth Soccer (USYS)
| State
| Fall/Spring
| U12 (08)-U15 (05)
| Athena A-Athena D with promotion/relegation
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Post by soccerdaddy on Apr 16, 2019 22:34:55 GMT -5
Awesome breakdown! What/Who/How determines the league strength?
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 16, 2019 22:43:06 GMT -5
It was sorta arbitrary based on observation. Like i mentioned, the biggest debate would be NPL/SCCL/NL. Undoubtedly the top teams from a lower league can beat the bottom teams from the next league up.
But it's arbitrary based on my kids age group. U13G. Admittedly that is the primary depth of my experience.
I have seen my kid play with/against or watched teams that play at all levels in U13G: ECNL (AFU/NTH/SSA/GSA), NPL (AFC/SSA), NL (AFC/IAFC/Impact/Roswell), SCCL (Concorde/UFA), Athena A & C (too many to mention).
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Post by soccerparentx on Feb 28, 2022 12:17:06 GMT -5
A tabular 2019-2020 leagues and clubs by year by gender (older ages first) in Georgia. This is prior to any SCCL expansion or Tophat girls potentially losing ECNL. The strength of the SAPL/SCCL/NL can and has been debated, for the time being I gave them the same strength. Thoughts? Boys:
League Strength
| League | Managing Organization
| League Type
| Play Seasons
| Ages
| Clubs
| 1
| Development Academy (DA)
| US Soccer Federation (USSF)
| Regional/National
| Fall/Spring
| U15 (05), U17 (03), U19 (01)
| Atlanta United, Concorde Fire, UFA
| 1
| Development Academy (DA)
| US Soccer Federation (USSF)
| Regional/National
| Fall/Spring
| U13 (07)-U14 (06)
| AFC, Atlanta United, Concorde Fire, LSA, NASA (NTH), SSA, UFA
| | 2 | Elite Clubs National League (ECNL) | US Club Soccer
| Regional/National
| Fall/Winter
| U15 (05), U17 (03), U19 (01)
| Atlanta Fire, Concorde Fire, GSA, NASA (NTH)
| 2
| Elite Clubs National League (ECNL)
| US Club Soccer
| Regional/National
| Fall/Spring
| U13 (07)-U14 (06)
| Atlanta Fire, Concorde Fire, GSA, NASA (NTH)
| 2
| National League (NL)
| US Youth Soccer (USYS)
| National
| Winter/Spring
| U14 (06)-U19 (01)
| Promotion from National League Piedmont Conference
| | 3 | South Atlantic Premier League (NPL)
| US Club Soccer
| Regional
| Fall/Spring
| U12 (08)-U17 (03), U19 (01)
| AFC, SSA, UFA
| | 3 | Southeastern Clubs Champions League (SCCL)
| US Club Soccer
| Regional
| Fall
| U15 (05)-U17 (03), U19 (01)
| Concorde Fire, GSA, NASA (NTH), SSA, UFA
| 3
| Southeastern Clubs Champions League (SCCL)
| US Club Soccer
| Regional
| Fall/Spring
| U12 (08)-U14 (06)
| Concorde Fire, GSA, NASA (NTH), SSA, UFA
| | 3 | National League Piedmont Conference (NL)
| US Youth Soccer (USYS)
| Regional
| Fall
| U14 (06)-U19 (01)
| Varies by promotion/relegation from Georgia Soccer (2 tiers with promotion/relegation)
| 3
| National League Piedmont Conference (NL)
| US Youth Soccer (USYS)
| Regional
| Spring
| U13 (07)
| Varies by promotion/relegation from Georgia Soccer (2 tiers with promotion/relegation)
| | 4 | Georgia Soccer
| US Youth Soccer (USYS)
| State
| Fall
| U16 (04)-U19 (01)
| Classic I-Classic IV with promotion/relegation
| 4
| Georgia Soccer
| US Youth Soccer (USYS)
| State
| Fall/Spring
| U12 (08)-U15 (05)
| Classic I-Classic IV with promotion/relegation
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Girls:
League Strength
| League | Managing Organization
| League Type
| Play Seasons
| Ages
| Clubs
| 1
| Development Academy (DA)
| US Soccer Federation (USSF)
| Regional/National
| Fall/Spring
| U14 (06)-U17 (03), U19 (01)
| Tophat (NTH), UFA
| | 1 | Elite Clubs National League (ECNL) | US Club Soccer
| Regional/National
| Fall/Winter
| U15 (05), U17 (03), U19 (01)
| Atlanta Fire, Concorde Fire (2 teams), GSA, Tophat (NTH)
| 1
| Elite Clubs National League (ECNL)
| US Club Soccer
| Regional/National
| Fall/Spring
| U13 (07)-U14 (06)
| Atlanta Fire, Concorde Fire (2 teams), GSA, Tophat (NTH)
| 1
| National League (NL)
| US Youth Soccer (USYS)
| National
| Winter/Spring
| U14 (06)-U19 (01)
| Promotion from National League Piedmont Conference
| | 2 | South Atlantic Premier League (NPL)
| US Club Soccer
| Regional
| Fall/Spring
| U12 (08)-U17 (03), U19 (01)
| AFC, SSA, UFA
| | 2 | Southeastern Clubs Champions League (SCCL)
| US Club Soccer
| Regional
| Fall
| U15 (05)-U17 (03), U19 (01)
| Concorde Fire, GSA, Tophat (NTH), SSA, UFA
| 2
| Southeastern Clubs Champions League (SCCL)
| US Club Soccer
| Regional
| Fall/Spring
| U12 (08)-U14 (06)
| Concorde Fire, GSA, Tophat (NTH), SSA, UFA
| | 2 | National League Piedmont Conference (NL)
| US Youth Soccer (USYS)
| Regional
| Fall
| U14 (06)-U19 (01)
| Varies by promotion/relegation from Georgia Soccer
| 2
| National League Piedmont Conference (NL)
| US Youth Soccer (USYS)
| Regional
| Spring
| U13 (07)
| Varies by promotion/relegation from Georgia Soccer
| | 3 | Georgia Soccer
| US Youth Soccer (USYS)
| State
| Fall
| U16 (04)-U19 (01)
| Athena A-Athena D with promotion/relegation
| 3
| Georgia Soccer
| US Youth Soccer (USYS)
| State
| Fall/Spring
| U12 (08)-U15 (05)
| Athena A-Athena D with promotion/relegation
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Post by weltzumerr on Feb 2, 2023 9:14:02 GMT -5
You would think it would make a difference, but I don't think they accrue royal-game-of-ur.com/. However, if an individual player gets 3 in a season, he/she spartan-agency.com to sit out the next game. No penalty points for cautions (yellow cards). The only repercussion, as pointed out, is against the player not the team. PLE is Premier League East (formerly known as R3PL or R3PLE) |
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Post by bernied on Mar 23, 2023 0:53:24 GMT -5
thank you for share
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Post by weltzumerr on May 5, 2023 4:29:02 GMT -5
might be helpful to explain the difference between tabletop miniatures and athena/classic etc. pooling players in academy vs definitive set rosters for athena/classic. maybe a brief explanation of the player pass Telegram sports betting for athena/classic. great stuff, you might become a legend over here. Added a link for Academy vs Athena/Classic. For the other stuff... want to take a stab at writing some of it? My view of academy was limited by the club where my kid played, and I don't think everyone does academy the same. Club pass is a great idea, but I know the rules are highly technical. Maybe a TM or coach here could write something up? I'll edit it into the original post. Thanks for the kind words! It's great to be here, and I'm looking forward to learning more about the differences between academy and athena/classic. You're absolutely right about pooling players in academy versus definitive set rosters for athena/classic, and the player pass system for athena/classic is a fascinating concept too. I'm sure I'll pick up more of the nuances as I explore the forum further. |
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