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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 9, 2015 14:42:28 GMT -5
interesting watch I guess after we lost in 2010 to Ghana. Not sure if we are in any better position now, I would argue we are in a worse spot. No system. I guess on the bright side the switch to calendar year will mysteriously solve our soccer problems as a nation......
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 10, 2015 8:06:29 GMT -5
Six additional months in the calendar year isn't going to make up for lack of technical ability or creativity. Changes to the birthday calendar will have no impact on the areas we are deficient in.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 10, 2015 8:18:40 GMT -5
I just don't get it though, folks don't take this the wrong way, but do our best go off to college and just not continue to grow? I've been saying for a while I personally don't think we have any problems in the US with youth soccer, the problem is what happens between 18-23 years of age. Not saying its college soccer problem entirely, it probably has to do with not having a true soccer pyramid. As JK alludes to, our pyramid is upside down.
I've seen in person better youth u18 players then what we saw the other night. Granted they were playing one of the best soccer nations ever, but Yedlin has zero touch, zero.
Part of the problem also is results -- had this example this weekend, team played terrible soccer, no possession, no intent to keep the ball, no playing through the keeper, right/left backs just bang the ball out of bounds, concede corners like crazy, no combination play, coaching screaming like crazy and I can go on and on -- but we won. Coach and another coach's comments were basically, teams playing very very well...... I was at a loss for words.
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Post by zizou on Sept 10, 2015 8:38:10 GMT -5
It is not just lack of technical ability. It also seems to be lack of soccer IQ. The USMNT are soooooo slooooooow in possession. Any individual player seems to have no idea where the ball is going next when they obtain possession (if they can keep possession). When was the last time you saw any fast combination play from this team? Players seem to be deteriorating in this program.
This brings up another issue for me. How has DA been a help to this program? When was it started? Something like 2007 maybe? Almost 9 years in and there seems to be no, zero improvement in the prospects for the USMNT. JK does not even really TAKE these players! When Germany revamped their training system in 2002 after the 2000 Euro debacle, how long did it take them to show results? Given DA shows no evidence of helping to improve the USMNT in relation to other National teams, even in our own weak confederation, why would USSF want to start such a seemingly useless program on the women's side? Makes no sense.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 10, 2015 8:50:02 GMT -5
It is not just lack of technical ability. It also seems to be lack of soccer IQ. The USMNT are soooooo slooooooow in possession. Any individual player seems to have no idea where the ball is going next when they obtain possession (if they can keep possession). When was the last time you saw any fast combination play from this team? Players seem to be deteriorating in this program. .......? Given DA shows no evidence of helping to improve the USMNT in relation to other National teams, even in our own weak confederation, why would USSF want to start such a seemingly useless program on the women's side? Makes no sense. Ha great points! The decision making was painfully slow. There was one time, late in the 2nd, where brazil almost was doing a rondo with I think the great bobby wood in the middle running around like a chicken with his head cut off, brazil finally just played the ball backwards because it was so embarrassing. I don't see a single player that could/can complement bradley. No movement of the ball etc. Love this one "...why would USSF want to start such a seemingly useless program on the women's side? Makes no sense." and PS, we need to start a fund raiser for the great bobby wood, dude needs some new cleats. Did you see how many times he fell on the ground during the game, what is he 6 years old........
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Post by totaalvoetbal on Sept 10, 2015 13:48:29 GMT -5
Well I don't necessarily think that college soccer is a "problem" per se. If kids were good enough at 16, 17, and 18, they can go pro now. NASL and MLS teams would be happy to get some nice young talent in their academy or USL team. I agree with zizou that the lack of soccer IQ is a major problem. American players need to know what they are going to do with the ball the second before they receive it. Physically our players are great, we have great speed and strength, but maybe some video sessions and quickness drills would be ideal.
Also, I think youth coaches and even fans can look at a player dominating the youth game and think he is very special without looking why he is doing well. A player who uses strength and speed as his main two attributes will not translate well as he ages. While intelligent play is something that we need as a soccer country.
Last point, I think because the U.S is so giant and different from any other nation, you can't really say "Well country A does this, so the U.S needs to do this too". We are a completely different beast and the transition from being a soccer novice country (circa 1990s) to a soccer expert country will take a very very long time.
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