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Post by rifle on Sept 19, 2015 19:48:02 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of Chelsea, but he is correct about the importance of controlling one's emotions.
And it seems that the sky is no longer falling.
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Post by stevieg on Sept 19, 2015 20:42:25 GMT -5
Costa should have been off before that. If anyone deserved Luke Shaw's fate, it was him.
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Post by jack4343 on Sept 19, 2015 21:53:35 GMT -5
Maybe he should tell his own player that. He's a twit. A championship winning one but a twit nonetheless. Diego Costa is the dirtiest player in the EPL yet seldom does he get sent off. Gabriel took the bait and paid the price. Should've slugged him.
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Post by jack4343 on Sept 19, 2015 22:00:35 GMT -5
PS....hey special1...congrats to your team. They looked to have things back on track and played much better today. (that last part was typed with clenched teeth LOL)
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Post by special1 on Sept 20, 2015 8:09:42 GMT -5
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Post by special1 on Sept 20, 2015 8:27:02 GMT -5
Diego Costa is top 3 centre forwards right now in the game. I think Altidore or some of these USMNT players can learn a thing or two from him. He is just doing is job. You cannot ignore him when he is in the game, you have to be mentally ready to play him. In addition to that, he actually has good technical skills and very good movement off the ball. Always a threat.
Per Mourinho, see above link. All this man has done in his career is win, his players past and present all regard him very highly. Its very unusual for him to lose 3 games in a row like they did early this season.
They played much better.
Arsenal is a good team, but imho, they have too many pretty boy type players and Wenger doesn't have a winning mentality. People were criticizing Chelsea of being boring last season but if you look carefully, you would notice many teams these days are trying to replicate that style of football.
Mou is rough around the edges but he's actually a genius, same as Costa...you just have to understand the method to their madness.
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Post by special1 on Sept 20, 2015 8:34:21 GMT -5
Costa should have been off before that. If anyone deserved Luke Shaw's fate, it was him. That's pretty harsh Stevie g, no one deserves that. If we are calling every offense that happened in that game, 3 arsenal players should have been sent off the two plus koscielny and I will then accept Costa send off.
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Post by rifle on Sept 20, 2015 10:14:32 GMT -5
Costa should have been off before that. If anyone deserved Luke Shaw's fate, it was him. Is there a "dislike" option for that remark? Because that's just harsh.. I am not a Chelsea fan at all, but Costa plays the heel very well. Gamesmanship aside, he is also very dangerous. His manager knows this and uses it to the club's advantage. There should be no surprise when Costa does his thing. It is not hard to expose a player doing what Costa does - and sadly (to me).. Arsenal failed completely. As Mou correctly notes, you can never lose your head. That's why I shared the video.
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Post by stevieg on Sept 20, 2015 13:39:50 GMT -5
Yeah Ok. A little harsh. Maybe just a pulled hammy.
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Post by special1 on Sept 20, 2015 14:01:08 GMT -5
Costa should have been off before that. If anyone deserved Luke Shaw's fate, it was him. Is there a "dislike" option for that remark? Because that's just harsh.. I am not a Chelsea fan at all, but Costa plays the heel very well. Gamesmanship aside, he is also very dangerous. His manager knows this and uses it to the club's advantage. There should be no surprise when Costa does his thing. It is not hard to expose a player doing what Costa does - and sadly (to me).. Arsenal failed completely. As Mou correctly notes, you can never lose your head. That's why I shared the video. Dislike button is thumbs down button next to thumbs up
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Post by special1 on Sept 20, 2015 14:25:13 GMT -5
Yeah Ok. A little harsh. Maybe just a pulled hammy. how about defenders need to keep their cool and not fall for Costa's tactics as rifle eluded to. Beat him fair and square, mano amano lol ie if you can. I hate to see great players on the bench or injury list. Honestly media always focus on Diego costa, some of these defenders are very dirty players too but very good at hiding it. I would love to see Costa v Gary Medel or Diego Godin battle it out....that would be epic. I think Kompany held is own well when Chelsea versed city. There are smart defenders out there that know how to play costa and battle it out and even costa respects that. Arsenal defenders are soft though. that's their major weakness. Former Chelsea player Peter Cech and Coquelin are the toughest players on Arsenal's roster lol
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Post by letissier on Sept 21, 2015 11:42:22 GMT -5
He's just been charge with violent conduct. Up to 3 match ban.
Even Zouma admitted he cheats in his interview (although he later claimed he doesn't speak English well).
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Post by rifle on Sept 21, 2015 18:46:28 GMT -5
Dislike button is thumbs down button next to thumbs up Hey thanks. There isn't a downward thumb on the mobile site. I said it because it's more effective on other sites to actually type "dislike" rather than anonymously give a thumbs down. I have no interest in messing with somebody's "score" to make a point.
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Post by rifle on Sept 21, 2015 18:53:48 GMT -5
He's just been charge with violent conduct. Up to 3 match ban.
Even Zouma admitted he cheats in his interview (although he later claimed he doesn't speak English well).
I'm kinda torn on this. Some shoving isn't going to do any real harm. Or backing into a guy that pushes you in the back, and stepping on his toes to send a message.... I felt like a "violent conduct" red card for the pisssed off heel flick was harsh .. But if it was a 2nd yellow, then it was deserved. No problem with that. .....I actually like a bit of nastiness in players. When my kids were younger I thought otherwise, but now I appreciate "the game within the game" more. Costa is a master, and now he's been clipped. Curious to see if they appeal.
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Post by jack4343 on Sept 22, 2015 13:50:50 GMT -5
Saw that the FA recinded the 3 game suspension for Gabriel today. He could and probably will serve at least 1 game suspension for not leaving the field after the red. Haven't seen anything about Costa yet. Doubt Carzola gets any additional time off.
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Post by jack4343 on Sept 23, 2015 13:30:33 GMT -5
Chelsea's new lineup vs. Newcastle this weekend courtesy of the Men In Blazers show. Attachments:
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Post by rifle on Sept 23, 2015 18:17:57 GMT -5
No Hanson Brothers. Disappointed.
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Post by coachjd on Sept 24, 2015 10:08:07 GMT -5
Diego Costa is a good player tactically, this is true. But I would never want any of my players to do what he does. And if they did, they would sit on the bench. I would not call him a top 3 Center forward either. He is hurt to often and there are not enough goals to his name right now. He does require attention by the defenders, but to be considered tops he has to have the goals along with it.
Edit: Costa deserved a red card before anyone else in that game. Gabriel deserved a yellow for sure, and should have controlled himself better though.
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Post by special1 on Sept 24, 2015 10:47:39 GMT -5
jack4343 when you see Costa think "ultimate warrior" lol, Men in blazers is a funny show
Costa was top 3 center forward in the preamier league last season, the season prior top 3 in la liga, im guessing if he can stay healthy and the FA can relax with all these unnecessary bans he will be top 3 this season. I think the way he plays is more in his dna and not neccesarily being coached to play that way. Only reason I won't want costa on my team would be his injury prone hamstring. Suarez, Aguero, Costa in that order (predators). This big fiasco is just the media looking for a new villain and trying to make a big deal out of a physical game. Mourinho didn't give them much to talk about with the handshake angle, so they needed a new storyline. Wenger kicked it off to deflect embarrassing way Arsenal has played the past few games and the media ran with it. Its not about anyone deserved a red card and someone else didn't. I think Mike dean officiated fairly in this game, Arsenal were just not physical enough. They looked sloppy and tired probably because they travelled and were coming off a champions league loss. I have seen more physical play in U9 than the costa v koscieny battle if you want to call it that. Gabriel would not have been sent off if he had better self control. Even Pele said it wasn't really a big deal and the physicality is normal....its not like he went Suarez on koscelny.
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Post by coachjd on Sept 25, 2015 10:03:59 GMT -5
Quality of play last year does not mean quality of play this year. Injuries will prevent Costa from being as good. Media aside, you don't slap a player in the face twice in 10 seconds, then shove the player right after that. Media has nothing to do with Costa being labeled a villain. He has been labeled a villain because of the way he plays. It is shady. As soon as I saw it while it was happening, I was surprised he didn't get booked. Mike Dean did not have a good game at all... He had no idea what was going on inside the 18 when everything started, and he had no idea Gabriel "kicked back" at Costa. He didn't give the card until after Costa went to Dean and whined and complained about it.
Physicality is normal, getting up off the ground to shove another player is not.
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Post by jash on Sept 25, 2015 13:31:31 GMT -5
Quality of play last year does not mean quality of play this year. Injuries will prevent Costa from being as good. Media aside, you don't slap a player in the face twice in 10 seconds, then shove the player right after that. Media has nothing to do with Costa being labeled a villain. He has been labeled a villain because of the way he plays. It is shady. As soon as I saw it while it was happening, I was surprised he didn't get booked. Mike Dean did not have a good game at all... He had no idea what was going on inside the 18 when everything started, and he had no idea Gabriel "kicked back" at Costa. He didn't give the card until after Costa went to Dean and whined and complained about it. Physicality is normal, getting up off the ground to shove another player is not. Meh, the chest bump was a dive by Koscielny. Surely a professional player at his level can be expected to be able to stand up. So that's meaningless to me. The hands in the face should have been a card, of course. But you won't see british players who do the same stuff treated the same way in the press as the foreign players. Media definitely plays a huge role in everyone's feelings about players in the premier league.
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