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Post by soccertwins on Oct 19, 2013 22:23:22 GMT -5
I was wondering if certain clubs have a reputation for a certain style of play, for having out of control parents, or for playing physical or dirty etc.
I was surprised to hear what friends of ours perceived about our club and would like to hear others chime in.
These "reputations" may or may not be legit, mind you, just what the word on the street is.
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Post by spectator on Oct 20, 2013 10:43:59 GMT -5
In our age group current U14 girls but reflecting back through Academy through all clubs played against and with:
GSA very physical play but not dirty. Parents obnoxious
UFA physical play and dirty at mid level teams. Elite just good - no need to resort to dirty play. However, the parents are worst in age group
Ambush - second worst parents in age group. Players very good though.
Top Hat - damn good teams. Never an issue with parents
Concorde - good players - parents vary by level - had great and not great through the years
NASA depends on level Teams typically strong; crap shoot with sidelines - seen every extreme
Norcross. - typically good players - can't remember any negative issues with parents
SSA/old Cobb FC - physical play - gets out of hand if players frustrated with score. Parents remarkably sedate - have had very nice sidelines conversations with that group
Augusta - dirty players and will stoop to cheating if possible. Parents just as obnoxious. Good team - just needs to play the game and not resort to dirty tactics.
AFC - depends on level. Elite parents obnoxious. Premier was OK
Cherokee. Back in the day - very physical team. Parents OK depended in the score.
Santos - players a non factor - parents clueless. Combative with refs over everything and full of loud excuses when they lose.
Macon. Thugs. On field and sidelines. Profanity and combative - waiting for sideline brawl one day
Athens. Players ok - lots of on field smack talk wirh profanity - they play better than they act. Parents obnoxious and delusional whining that everything is a foul
Chiefs. - never an issue with players or parents
Again. This is my kid's age and gender only. I'm sure others have different experience
edited to add
Rush - never played them - not a strong force in this age group for girls in GA.
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Post by bpgbeieio on Oct 20, 2013 11:29:49 GMT -5
Dacula - are hillbillies
Ambush - are age cheaters
NASA - coaches teach leg chops and foul play
Rush - highly educated parents who understand soccer at every level and players who play possession control soccer under the skilled leadership of National Team COACH rf
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Post by spectator on Oct 20, 2013 11:41:30 GMT -5
Dacula - are hillbillies Ambush - are age cheaters NASA - coaches teach leg chops and foul play Rush - highly educated parents who understand soccer at every level and players who play possession control soccer under the skilled leadership of National Team COACH rf Ladies and Gentlemen - meet the Forum's Rush parent;;; Come on, be objective or at least factual. You don't know if a team plays players above the age group or what the coaches teach unless you're there - and based on your post, you're obviously not at Ambush or NASA. In all the years my kid has played soccer, no coach has ever 'taught' leg chops or foul play. Now the parents may have instructed it from the sidelines and I witnessed this year, a parent being ejected from a game for doing it (GSA). Seriously - don't stoop to old forum tactics with the 'everyone but Rush' sucks mentality. Surely you've seen more than three other clubs play your teams - the OP asked for your observations not your opinions - what have you seen on the field or sidelines by club that paints your perception of that club or age group? If you're capable of doing this, I'd also be interested in someone else's perception of clubs in the area. Peace |
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Post by bpgbeieio on Oct 20, 2013 11:57:45 GMT -5
I saw DSC players and parents make monkey chants at the Gs.
I know three over-aged players who competed at Ambush
My children competed against NASA for yours and every time a striker beat a NASA player off a dribble/move the NASA player made a "professional fou" leg chop.
I was teasing about Rush.
Seems to me that your inability to accept the views of others is what is bring the "attitude" of the old forum to this venue
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Post by spectator on Oct 20, 2013 12:13:45 GMT -5
I saw DSC players and parents make monkey chants at the Gs. I know three over-aged players who competed at Ambush My children competed against NASA for yours and every time a striker beat a NASA player off a dribble/move the NASA player made a "professional fou" leg chop. I was teasing about Rush. Seems to me that your inability to accept the views of others is what is bring the "attitude" of the old forum to this venue I asked for the views of others and for you to expand on what you wrote. You did (kind of) but you still limited to only those three clubs. Surely you have other observations, Didn't know you were kidding about Rush - there's not a sarcasm font so it's hard to read when that's intended. |
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Post by soccergator on Oct 20, 2013 12:57:28 GMT -5
bpgbeieio has a serious attitude problem. Look at his/her history of posts.
That being said, I think his negative opinions are welcome.
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Post by bpgbeieio on Oct 20, 2013 18:29:43 GMT -5
Dacula - are hillbillies Ambush - are age cheaters NASA - coaches teach leg chops and foul play Rush - highly educated parents who understand soccer at every level and players who play possession control soccer under the skilled leadership of National Team COACH rf Seriously - don't stoop to old forum tactics with the 'everyone but Rush' sucks mentality..........- the OP asked for your observations not your opinions........ |
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Post by bpgbeieio on Oct 20, 2013 18:34:37 GMT -5
Dacula - are hillbillies Ambush - are age cheaters NASA - coaches teach leg chops and foul play Rush - highly educated parents who understand soccer at every level and players who play possession control soccer under the skilled leadership of National Team COACH rf Come on, be objective or at least factual. Seriously - don't stoop to old forum tactics with the 'everyone but Rush' sucks mentality. - the OP asked for your observations not your opinions............If you're capable of doing this.............. The OP did no such thing, the OP wrote, "I was wondering if certain clubs have a reputation........just what the word on the street is." She did not ask for examples, proof or analysis. The "stoop to old forum tactics" and "If you're capable of doing this" are a leg chop below the belt that was uncalled for. But, through your vitriol and response, it is easy to tell you are a NASA parent. Btw, my youngest child, and the only one active in youth soccer, plays at UFA. |
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Post by spectator on Oct 20, 2013 18:42:54 GMT -5
Bpgbeieio - that explains a lot .....
ETA
"through your vitriol and response, it is easy to tell you are a NASA parent"
where do you read vitriol in my responses? I stated what I have observed at my child's age group. It's my opinion and observation - period. I did call one club 'Thugs' - you called one 'Hillbillies' yet my response is vitriol?
I gave my observation every other club (worth mentioning) including every club that my child has played for (2) or against (many).
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Post by soccertwins on Oct 20, 2013 19:14:20 GMT -5
Thanks for responding. We are new to our current club and have noticed that we don't seem to get the benefit of the doubt from referees when it comes to fouls. I suspect it is because of the club's rep for physical play.
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Post by bpgbeieio on Oct 20, 2013 21:00:28 GMT -5
Spectator, "stoop to old forum tactics" and "If you're capable of doing this" felt vitriolic to me. Can we be friends?
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Post by rifle on Oct 21, 2013 6:30:29 GMT -5
I read it and assumed it was 100 percent tongue in cheek from the "misunderstood" forum joker.
Repeating old forum generalizations isn't worth the time spent typing. At least we can block individuals who make a habit of laughing alone..
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Post by bpgbeieio on Oct 21, 2013 10:56:02 GMT -5
I have blocked you rifle, not worth wasting my time on your drivel.
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Post by rifle on Oct 21, 2013 11:58:26 GMT -5
Okay. Should I say thanks?
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Post by spectator on Oct 21, 2013 16:54:19 GMT -5
bpgbeieio - no worries.
trouble with the written word - you cannot read sarcasm and you can inject emotions that aren't there. We can agree to give each other the benefit of the doubt that we're not typing snark - deal?
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Post by rifle on Oct 21, 2013 18:54:04 GMT -5
Tip: YouTube videos allow you to right click on the video and "add current time" (or something to that effect) to the embedded video link, in case your highlight is many minutes into the clip.
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Post by guest on Oct 21, 2013 20:54:45 GMT -5
To bpgbeieio: I am from Dacula and I have heard the monkey thing a few times. Here's my questions. KM Played for GA Rush how many years ago? Was this in a classic game? I'm thinking this happened at one game several years ago? Is that enough to say that Dacula are hillbillies? (also on a related note you said you are a UFA parent and you personally witnessed some Dacula folks doing the monkey calls. Why would a UFA parent be at a classic game between DSC and Rush?)
Just not a fan of the guy from GSA who used to post his ballad every few weeks. GSA is actually in a worse part of town than DSC.
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Post by bpgbeieio on Oct 22, 2013 11:06:34 GMT -5
Ok, Rookie,
Why would a UFA parent be at a classic game between DSC and Rush? I had an older child (now in college)who played at Rush three years ago with the Gs and one who currently plays at UFA. Happens a lot.
I did not say that I personally consider Dacula to be Hillbillies, rather, the poster asked for the (deserved or undeserved) reputation of clubs and I responded that "Dacula are hillbillies." I would venture that if one could play a word association game within the Georgia Youth Soccer Community and said "Dacula" a significant percentage would respond Hillibillies.
I was responded to OP and not endorsing a particular view or declaring a truth. Personally, I found Dacula and its parent to be among the most uncouth and least ethical in the sport. I am; however, surprised by the nonchalance with which you acknowledge the monkey chants - just another day at the zoo, huh?
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Post by soccerenthusiast on Oct 25, 2013 7:59:58 GMT -5
Dacula - are hillbillies Ambush - are age cheaters NASA - coaches teach leg chops and foul play Rush - highly educated parents who understand soccer at every level and players who play possession control soccer under the skilled leadership of National Team COACH rf After being involved w/ soccer for 15 years and having daughters play at about 4 different clubs, here is my input. Commenting from girls side teams... GSA never had an issue w/ them, maybe a little overrated UFA very political club, some coaches and directors think a little too much of themselves, but have some good quality players and teams. Great fields and pretty well done tournaments. Ambush - coaching seems good, team quality depends on the age and gender of team, had issues in the past w/ a coach who is no longer there but no issues since then. Top Hat - good teams, some good coaches and really never an issue with parents either. Tournaments are well run, fields sometimes leave something to be desired. Concorde - confusing club, too many locations, never liked central or north fields. No issues w/ parents and girls teams are so so.. My least favorite club...and after discussions with many other parents. NASA - some good coaches at academy and some completely awful. Club is very political and if you don't start in academy there the chances of making a top team in select later can be slim. Parents have major clicks and seem to be living vicariously through their kids. Also a lot of backstabbing. Never had too much issues of yelling on sidelines as coaches have been known to single out parents or punish kids for parental behavior which is not a bad thing. Puts pressure on parents to behave and the ones that don't like the terms tend to leave the club and go somewhere else. There is a lot of turnover in their teams which tells me that they are constantly looking for the next best thing and are not always looking to develop what they already have. Norcross. - typically good players - no too many issues w/ parents SSA/old Cobb FC - very aggressive, sometimes dirty play, coaches are obnoxious and parents are worse. Augusta - never really dealt with them AFC - good players, OK coaches and not many issues w/ parents Cherokee - mediocre players, sub par coaches and obnoxious parents Santos - low level play, parents generally well behaved and coaches try but don't get much accomplished. Macon - Agree w/ others. Always dirty players, parents rude and vulgar and coaches don't control situations and neither do their refs. Athens - good tournaments, OK players, no issues just a far drive from us when we have had to go there. Chiefs - no issues yet Rush - has had a couple great teams in the past with girls, but new DOC cleaned out a couple great coaches. I hear boys coaches and parents are obnoxious, girls parents always seem to be fine, but there teams are mediocre now and don't seem to be on the rise.
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Post by daisy on Oct 26, 2013 18:37:54 GMT -5
We have only been at this for eight years but I think the better question would be; do certain coaches and their teams have reputations? I would not use such a broad brush to paint a club a certain way. I think you will find a better correlation between coaches, player and parent behavior. The only club I can say we play that consistently plays with a poor reputation is NASA.
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Post by pooldawg on Oct 26, 2013 20:04:33 GMT -5
We have only been at this for eight years but I think the better question would be; do certain coaches and their teams have reputations? I would not use such a broad brush to paint a club a certain way. I think you will find a better correlation between coaches, player and parent behavior. The only club I can say we play that consistently plays with a poor reputation is NASA. We witnessed that this season. The NASA coach was calling his players stupid. The players were rude and seemed to have a sense of entitlement about themselves. There was only one or two parents that were really obnoxious and sarcastic throughout most of the game. |
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Post by guest on Oct 27, 2013 20:19:23 GMT -5
Bpgbeieio: point taken. I now understand you do not endorse the view about Dacula and were just talking about generalizations, earned or unearned.
Regarding the monkey thing, I have never heard anybody chanting "monkey" or any other such nonsense. I have heard the allegation about the monkey thing dozens of times, on the old forum. I am not nonchalant about it (the allegation) I just know that I personally am not able to do anything about people's incorrect assumptions. But I guess I will take you at your word that it occurred. I still think it probably happened a while ago, right? If so, we have gotten rid of a non-functioning DOC and have almost complete turnover on the board. Mgmt for the last two yrs have turned things around 180. I have three kids who play there and we have been there for three years. I never have heard anything remotely resembling this. I know of one mom and one dad who can be a little vocal at times. But would never monkey chant, whatever that means. I think it means something derogatory about black people. Shoot, Gwinnett has been majority minority for almost a decade now. More non-whites play for us than whites.
Ps: the hillbilly thing was started by a GSA dad. I take pride every time we beat their teams.
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