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Post by cos on Sept 19, 2013 21:49:43 GMT -5
Does anyone know how tryouts are handled in other states? just seems that new players are not truly given a chance to compete against returning players since returning players seem to not have do 11 v 11 phase from what I observed. |
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Post by soccergator on Sept 19, 2013 22:13:09 GMT -5
the entire process is ridiculous.
i'm pretty sure 10-15 girls from the 01 team didn't make it the 2nd year. and to be honest, there are a handfull of special players, the rest are all very similiar
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Post by cos on Sept 19, 2013 22:38:57 GMT -5
I am sure your right. It just seems the process is not effective for its stated purpose of identification and development. of course I am biased as my daughter is a December birthday and sub 2000 class for ODP.
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Post by zizou on Sept 20, 2013 7:04:01 GMT -5
Not to completely defend the way evaluations are handled, but I think they do a reasonable job given the number of kids and time they devote. My kid was not selected but I watched and could tell there were some kids that clearly stand out. Maybe 10 or so. The others are selected based on how they do that night. On another night things might have been different.
Seems to me all you can do is work on technique, speed of play, and good decision making when working in small spaces. The small sided game performances seemed to be very important. Motivation for next year. Make it so they cannot ignore you.
Now, whether they should do this differently is another matter!
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Post by gladtobhere on Sept 20, 2013 7:25:46 GMT -5
In ODP your returning players are obviously going to have an advantage. The coaches are looking for a good first touch and then speed. I have had 2 sons in ODP and it is a great program for them. One has now gone DA. I would suggest spending a lot of time juggling to work on that first touch to stand out next time. I would be vocal in a positive way as a player as well.
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Post by soccertoo on Sept 20, 2013 8:14:54 GMT -5
In ODP your returning players are obviously going to have an advantage. The coaches are looking for a good first touch and then speed. I have had 2 sons in ODP and it is a great program for them. One has now gone DA. I would suggest spending a lot of time juggling to work on that first touch to stand out next time. I would be vocal in a positive way as a player as well. Returning players may have a disadvantage, too. The coach has seen them through the year cycle and may consider them inferior. About twenty girls were cut from the 2001 ODP team. |
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Post by soccertoo on Sept 20, 2013 10:48:14 GMT -5
In ODP your returning players are obviously going to have an advantage. The coaches are looking for a good first touch and then speed. I have had 2 sons in ODP and it is a great program for them. One has now gone DA. I would suggest spending a lot of time juggling to work on that first touch to stand out next time. I would be vocal in a positive way as a player as well. Returning players may have a disadvantage, too. The coach has seen them through the year cycle and may consider them inferior. About twenty girls were cut from the 2001 ODP team. |
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Post by soccerpapi on Sept 21, 2013 9:33:58 GMT -5
The process is far from perfect in GA. Not sure how else they could it in a 1 or 2 tryout window - multiple small-sided games seem to give them the ability to ID first touch, technical skills, problem solving abilities in small areas of the field while 11v11 seem to show ability to play position, teamwork, play the ball out of the back, transition from defense to offense, as well as better look at goal keepers, etc.. With any selection processes involving human beings in life, it has its share of subjectivity, politics, and favoritism - opportunity to teach our kids about life skills as some of us experience the same on our jobs or working environments.
Regarding returning players...In my kid's age group, I've seen returning players given more of an advantage than a disadvantage. For instance, early bloomers who were selected at U12 due to size & speed over others continue to make the team even though they may have lost the size & speed advantage at U14/U15. Returning players who may have personally established relationship with Coaches or whose parents volunteer for team manager duties seem to also benefit from returning player advantages. Another observation is that returning players tend to be taken off the field early in the final phase of 11v11 tryouts whereas majority of new players tend to remain for additional evaluation - nothing wrong with this, except that if you were on the 1st. team the previous year, you are typically a pass-thru and given the benefit of the doubt.
Lastly, I'd like to see a couple of things enforced on a more consistent basis (1) ODP Coaches for a particular age-group should be changed yearly (maybe every two years max) - reduce the subjectivity, bias, and favoritism that one Coach may have established for particular players, and (2) Team manager/administrator duties should be restricted to one year (rotated around) - reduce any competitive advantage that players of those parents may have established within the system.
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