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Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 4, 2016 10:45:22 GMT -5
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Post by zizou on Feb 4, 2016 12:51:58 GMT -5
Do you think that the Fed knows they look like a bunch of grab-bagging fools? I assume, just like any other superordinate organization that answers to no one, they do not care. What usually happens in such situations is that the masses take it for so long, and then they realize that without us, the little people, the superordinate organization are nothing, revolution ensues, and some semblance of a new, "progressive" organization is instituted. Before the process starts all over again.
I wonder why the clubs take it? They are the first ones affected, then the players and parents. Why do most youth clubs care if they have USSF approval/sanctioning for anything? It makes no difference to the overwhelming majority of their clientele.
If you cannot lay out, in a simple fashion, the rationale for the policies you are instituting, or the approach you are taking, then you do not understand it yourself. The position that "We will not describe our rationale to you because you would not understand it anyway" is what you hear from organizations with no understanding of their own plan. They have no plan. They will not improve anything. Let me just point out that this very day the US U-19 MNT lost 5-0 to France. That DA plan instituted in 2007 seems to be working swimmingly! We are right on course under the current USSF leadership. Everything is fine. Nothing to see here.
The only part of USSF that has been doing just fine has been the USWNT. And now the Fed is going to get more involved with that part of the organization. Want to place any bets on how that will turn out?
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Post by jack4343 on Feb 5, 2016 6:29:18 GMT -5
My daughter will be playing 11v11 on a full field starting the season at 11 years old. She is currently u10, 6v6 on a quafter-sized field. One year on the half field then on to the full sized pitch. That's not development, that's putting a kid on the fast track and I'm not sure how she'll handle it. It will all even out eventually as her body and strength will grow into it by 14 or so but who's to say she'll not become frustrated and lose interest in the meantime? Who expects 11 year old girls to be able to make 30 or 40 yard passes? I see a really narrow game being played on a mostly unused field...sounds like beautiful soccer. Can't wait...
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Post by spectator on Feb 5, 2016 11:52:04 GMT -5
My daughter will be playing 11v11 on a full field starting the season at 11 years old. She is currently u10, 6v6 on a quafter-sized field. One year on the half field then on to the full sized pitch. That's not development, that's putting a kid on the fast track and I'm not sure how she'll handle it. It will all even out eventually as her body and strength will grow into it by 14 or so but who's to say she'll not become frustrated and lose interest in the meantime? Who expects 11 year old girls to be able to make 30 or 40 yard passes? I see a really narrow game being played on a mostly unused field...sounds like beautiful soccer. Can't wait... This was always my argument when the large clubs immediately created an 11v11 team at U12. It's putting 11 year old girls on the big field before they're ready - strength wise, speed wise and tactical play wise. The few clubs that were successful at it focused on small sided play within the bigger field - triangles strategically moving the ball across and up the field. Most club coaches lack that ability and will pluck up the larger 11 year olds thinking their size equates to skill and ta da - the birth of boom ball begins. And statistically speaking, most girls quit sports between the ages of 12 and 14. I think this number will increase in girls soccer now - sadly.
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Post by zizou on Feb 5, 2016 13:47:51 GMT -5
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Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 5, 2016 14:06:56 GMT -5
USSF does seem to be operating like a rouge nation as if they don't have all the states has "partners"
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Post by zizou on Jul 27, 2016 10:27:40 GMT -5
jash is going to love this one! I used the link from Arsenal as an example (take note jack4343 !). I am happy that USSF is keeping up with changes happening in the rest of the world. Note that they are going to a tier system. Not every club plays at the same level but lots of clubs might deserve a chance to have FA assistance with soccer development. Almost sounds inclusive. Why would a country want to encourage greater exposure to top training for more players? I don't get it. Also nice that they put a distance from club restriction on where players can play. That would solve a lot of problems here! British FA Centre of Excellence Modifications
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 27, 2016 11:29:52 GMT -5
This is becoming a circus....
"As part of the changes for next season, the FA are also altering the eligible age groups and the FA cut off dates for the new age groups will also move from 1st January to 1st September each year to align with school years. As a result, there will be no U9 or U17 age groups from next season, so under FA direction we can only offer places in the following age groups: U10s - Players born from 1st September 2006 -31st August 2008 U12s - Players born from 1st September 2004 - 31st August 2006 U14s - Players born from 1st September 2002 - 31st August 2004 U16s - Players born from 1st September 2000 - 31st August 2002"
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Post by jash on Jul 27, 2016 13:30:03 GMT -5
USSF is steps behind again. Of course, one could also fault the FA for flip-flopping again, too.
Maybe it's ALL soccer leadership that just flounders and sticks bandages on random things in the hopes that either a) something will actually help and improve or b) they will at least look like they're doing something.
The age group fiasco did, as expected, really hurt our club and many teams and kids here. At this point I'm just waiting the 1 or 2 more years before I'm done with this horrible mess. Our voices don't count, so yelling has only the result of making us hoarse and frustrated.
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Post by jack4343 on Jul 28, 2016 8:51:23 GMT -5
Great article....if I was the USSF, I'd wait before switching back to school year grouping as the FA will eventually switch to bio-band grouping based on analysing height, strength, endurance, etc. rather than age anyway. I think the problem is there are way too many organizations involved each with their own rules. Reminds me of the Christian religion and it's 20,000 denominations. The reason the other sports are dominant here is the simple fact that they are organized and have their stuff together. We need that in soccer to move forward. Seeing as how we have added Girls DA and possibly Boys ECNL to the mix it seems as it's more scattered as new organizations keep popping up to take their slice of the pie. Money grabbing at its finest if you ask me.
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Post by rifle on Jul 28, 2016 16:09:19 GMT -5
If every layer is the best, what's the best?
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Post by guest on Jul 29, 2016 10:27:08 GMT -5
Reminds me of the Christian religion and it's 20,000 denominations. Yes but this would be analogous to the Methodists announcing that because the rest of the world is Catholic, we are going to implement belief in Purgatory beginning next August. Probably raise blood pressure by a similar amount as the birth year mandate.
ha, ha
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