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Post by SoccerMom on Feb 16, 2016 18:55:56 GMT -5
And per the tweets from Glenn Crooks & Charles Boehm, it didn't go well for ECNL as far as women's DA is concerned
I don't know how to post the tweets here, maybe someone else can?
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Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 16, 2016 19:05:09 GMT -5
you use this format to post tweets: When you open up a tweet in browser, there are a string of #s at the end, that is the twitter id So below the twitter id is the number in bold twitter.com/MLS/status/699745183181758464(I had to spell twitter wrong below to get it to show up in the body of the message) [twittter id='PUT TWITTER ID HERE']
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Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 16, 2016 22:18:39 GMT -5
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Post by u2dadatlanta on Feb 16, 2016 22:27:08 GMT -5
I read this to my ECNL daughter- that girls DA will not allow them play HS ball ... my kid says while laughing "well Looks like I wont be playing for a DA team."
I can tell you right now that these detached admins have little to no idea what goes on in the life of a teenager. ECNL allows HS ball , DA does not. For a 15 year old who attends a halfway decent soccer ihgh school, that will be a no brainer. And DA will equal RPL now, at least for the short term.
Tell a girl that she can't play for Marist? OK you do that.
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Post by jetta25 on Feb 17, 2016 7:40:19 GMT -5
This is really disappointing. It is a shame that adults cannot come up with solution to benefit everyone. It is true that ECNL has a major hurdle of cost but to be honest there was not an interest in the girls side for a long time and ECNL helped fill that void. Even better, there is the benefit of playing with schoolmates. That is an experience that could never be replicated in a child's life. This is just sad. I really want to say power trip on the part of US Soccer but that may be going too far.
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Post by SoccerMom on Feb 17, 2016 7:57:50 GMT -5
I read this to my ECNL daughter- that girls DA will not allow them play HS ball ... my kid says while laughing "well Looks like I wont be playing for a DA team." I can tell you right now that these detached admins have little to no idea what goes on in the life of a teenager. ECNL allows HS ball , DA does not. For a 15 year old who attends a halfway decent soccer ihgh school, that will be a no brainer. And DA will equal RPL now, at least for the short term. Tell a girl that she can't play for Marist? OK you do that. I think it will depend on the girls? I have heard of a few players -- ECNL and RPL that don't want to play HS, so it will be a no brainer for them. DA will not be for everyone, its a special type of commitment for a certain level player.
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Post by jash on Feb 17, 2016 10:01:43 GMT -5
I really want to say power trip on the part of US Soccer but that may be going too far. It's not going too far. USSF is really on a roll recently -- trying to fix things that aren't broken (girls soccer) and trying to fix broken things by hatching ill-conceived ideas that have nothing to do with the quality of soccer and then diving into a hole and refusing to talk about them (age mandate).
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Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 17, 2016 10:04:04 GMT -5
My timeline is not 100% correct, but one of the reasons DA stopped allowing kids to play high school was the necessity of 10 month curriculum and the amount of money clubs are investing into each child. Some clubs at that time, both Georgia DA clubs went fully funded and had a lot of $ in each kid. They felt given the resources they put it, it made sense that these kids should not be playing high school soccer. Since then, the local clubs had to charge small fees again since many were quitting to play high school soccer after they committed to colleges etc and it made the kids have something invested in the process as well.
Some MLS clubs charge big fees for DA play, others are still fully funded, and others have tried to charge a minimal fee similar to regular classic/athena/rpl etc fees. You would be surprised but by the time a kid finishes up at a DA program, many of these clubs have upwards of 10,000 - 20,000 spent on each kid. Thats part of the problem right now, DA is very expensive for clubs and clubs that don't have a method of generating that revenue, the GA united alliance was necessity, along with uniform sponsorship.
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Post by zizou on Feb 17, 2016 14:50:29 GMT -5
And per the tweets from Glenn Crooks & Charles Boehm, it didn't go well for ECNL as far as women's DA is concerned I don't know how to post the tweets here, maybe someone else can? The conclusion was NOT that it did not go well for ECNL, the conclusion was that it did not go well. Collaboration/cooperation is always better, especially when considering what will be best for the players. But that was not USSF's feeling. We will see how it all works out. Does not happen until 2017 at the earliest. Long time between now and then. At present time it also sounds like the overwhelming majority of ECNL clubs are planning on staying in that league and not applying to get GDAP. Will be interesting to see how it all turns out. Hope for the better, but one could hardly say things are going well right now.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 17, 2016 15:52:56 GMT -5
Soccer wires story -- www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/ecnl/u-s-soccer-ecnl-summit-fruitless-with-federation-set-to-go-it-alone-on-girls-development-academy/Why is no re-entry substitution rules so important, to me its worse, having kids forced to sit the bench and coaches in my opinion struggle to manage substitutions properly and get to worried about "who" is on the pitch vs playing kids appropriately. It puts to much of an emphasis on a coaches ability to manage a roster vs letting kids just play the game. "USSF expressed a desire for ECNL to adopt no-re-entry substitution rules, a mandate for a minimum of four practice sessions per week, and a combined U17/18 age group; ECNL officials responded that they have been ready and willing to adopt any such competition rules USSF requests."
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Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 23, 2016 11:30:31 GMT -5
sounds like the war has begun.
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