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Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 23, 2016 11:58:50 GMT -5
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Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 23, 2016 12:11:34 GMT -5
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Post by TheMadOx on Feb 23, 2016 13:58:48 GMT -5
I find this DA thing interesting...I call BS on some of the things US soccer is saying. They think this will be attractive to the smaller clubs that can't fill 6 ECNL teams? Small clubs won't be able to qualify for this based on the criteria at the end of the Soccer America's article:
• Leadership of the club and quality of the coaching staff--MAYBE • Desire to embrace and promote the core values of the program---SURE • U.S. Soccer license levels of coaching staff---DOUBT SMALL CLUBS HAVE LOTS OF HIGH LICENSED COACHES--most small clubs are volunteers or lightly paid to cover expenses. • Infrastructure of the club and the resources currently being invested in development (facilities, scholarships, staff to player ratio, etc.); --HIT AND MISS • History of player production for youth national teams, the senior women’s national teams, and professional leagues;---NO--small clubs produce players for the BIG CLUBS in Atlanta (not national teams) • Market and depth of the player pool, geographic location and travel implications, and proximity to other elite clubs.---Depth-NO, rest-MAYBE
I do like the every 2 year thing though...every 2 years you are the oldest on the team, and other years you are the youngest, I do think that will help with development in the early years.
I personally believe that DA creators have been seeing the success of ECNL and they now want that lime light...I'm doubtful the cost will be reduced much.
It will be fun to see what players and families decide going forward, that's for sure. Especially not being allow to play HS ball.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 23, 2016 14:10:58 GMT -5
yea, not buying that small club argument for one second, unless its from a satellite or smaller city.
no small club from the ATL is getting GDA thats for dang sure.
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Post by SoccerMom on Feb 23, 2016 14:55:32 GMT -5
• History of player production for youth national teams, the senior women’s national teams, and professional leagues
how do you determine where the player was developed? the smaller clubs could have developed and then player went to bigger club, smaller club can still take credit for that player's development don't you think?
Its going to be very interesting to see what happens come May...will all 4 ECNL clubs apply for it? Any player that has been invited to a US Soccer National Camp will go to DA just like in the Boys side...that's what is "recommended".
DA is a very expensive program for a club to have, I have heard rumors that CF was not going to apply for it because they can't afford to maintain the boys and girls side. GA United was lucky in the sense that the cost was divided into more than one club. I think some kind of alliance would be best for this.
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Post by stevieg on Feb 23, 2016 17:13:43 GMT -5
I don't see more than two girls DA clubs to start in GA. Probably NASA/TH and CF (notwithstanding what SoccerMom says which certainly could be true). I can't see AFU doing it as the board can't get out of their own way there. GSA is probably a long shot. What about UFA? Won't this validate their decision not to join ECNL? They already have boys DA experience within GA United.
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Post by rifle on Feb 23, 2016 17:57:14 GMT -5
I know some small clubs with plenty of USSF A and NYL certifications - so that's a moot point.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 23, 2016 17:58:40 GMT -5
Does Atlanta United get involved with girls?
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Post by zizou on Mar 2, 2016 21:47:46 GMT -5
Don't know this person. Don't know his agenda other than what I read here. Interesting. Critical of club and DA structures. Not new arguments really but interesting to see them all in one place.
USSF G-DA has it all wrong
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 3, 2016 8:19:06 GMT -5
great article. never knew Holiday played hoops!
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Post by youthsoccerdad on Mar 3, 2016 8:59:02 GMT -5
• History of player production for youth national teams, the senior women’s national teams, and professional leagues how do you determine where the player was developed? the smaller clubs could have developed and then player went to bigger club, smaller club can still take credit for that player's development don't you think? Its going to be very interesting to see what happens come May...will all 4 ECNL clubs apply for it? Any player that has been invited to a US Soccer National Camp will go to DA just like in the Boys side...that's what is "recommended". DA is a very expensive program for a club to have, I have heard rumors that CF was not going to apply for it because they can't afford to maintain the boys and girls side. GA United was lucky in the sense that the cost was divided into more than one club. I think some kind of alliance would be best for this. In a lot cases it is easy to determine where the player was developed. Look over at the sideline and find their mom or dad.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 3, 2016 9:06:51 GMT -5
So why is soccer the only team sport that has to be played 10 months a year vs seasonal..? (yes, travel baseball, aau etc, but most those kids still I think play multiple sports....)
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Post by SoccerMom on Mar 3, 2016 12:08:36 GMT -5
Don't know this person. Don't know his agenda other than what I read here. Interesting. Critical of club and DA structures. Not new arguments really but interesting to see them all in one place.
USSF G-DA has it all wrongI have some issues with this article...lets start off with the fact that hes a HS coach and is worried that he will loose players to DA. Also HS soccer is for fun, no one learns anything in HS soccer -- in fact a lot of the coaches lately seem to rely on the ability that players already have and let them have free reigns. I can tell you that the HS coach my kid is getting, does NOT coach and has no shame in admitting. To say that all the great players now played HS is not a good argument, yes they played HS but there was no DA back then so they didn't have to choose...I believe those players would be just as good whether they had or not. He talks about college and better chances of scholarships...kids are not being recruited at soccer HS games....other sports? yes, but not soccer. HS soccer is about the experience, the friends, the fun bus rides. He mentions inappropriate behavior between club coaches and players...and how because HS coaches are also teachers they know better..really? pretty sure there are teachers out there having inappropriate behaviors with students too. Not all club coaches are bad and not all HS coaches are good The only good point that i read was from Lauren Holiday about multiple sports when she said “Having that variety is an awesome thing and I would encourage any young athlete or parent not to restrict themselves. Doing different things develops different parts of your body. It can help prevent injuries and definitely help prevent burnout.”
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