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Post by rifle on Apr 10, 2016 9:04:54 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks inviting only (pay-to-play) academy, ODP, RPL, NPL or C1 players to participate in an "open tryout" is really unfortunate? For an MLS "development" academy associated with a team that wants to capture support of all fans of the game, it seems very short sighted. Player ID events should never be limited, especially for 10-13 year olds.
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Post by allthingsoccer on Apr 10, 2016 9:27:46 GMT -5
Isn't all soccer pay to play in GA??
I heard from several parents that dont play in those levels made the tryout. They had the coach email a recommendation. I think it's just a filter process so you don't have a very diluted event. I think the parents who think the player has a chance asked the coach to write a recommendation.
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Post by rifle on Apr 10, 2016 15:50:40 GMT -5
"All" soccer isn't pay to play. Just the mainstream wealthy flavor.
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Post by infoguy on Apr 11, 2016 8:38:55 GMT -5
OK, when was there tryouts for AU? I thought it was around the same, traditional time as GA United? Like early June?!
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Post by footy on Apr 11, 2016 9:10:59 GMT -5
OK, when was there tryouts for AU? I thought it was around the same, traditional time as GA United? Like early June?! ID sessions for 02, 03, and 04 are this weekend atlutd.com/atlanta-united-academy-overview/. Older age groups will be later (dates not yet announced).
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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 11, 2016 9:14:25 GMT -5
I have no problem with it, especially in year 1 where you want to look at kids but need something manageable. What would have been worse is charging a fee to attend, and charging a fee to tryout.
If there are kids our there that don't play in a "pay to play" model they have all of next year to figure out a way to get seen. At some point you have to put responsibility on their local rec club, whether is a soccer in the streets club, a standard Atlanta club, a YMCA or a mexican league -- The administrators of these leagues need to find ways to help players get identified that can't afford to play.
Not many clubs will turn away a player that can't pay when they are the quality folks are talking about. And if a club does say, sorry, we can't help you, there are many other options to choose.
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Post by infoguy on Apr 15, 2016 6:20:13 GMT -5
I have no problem with it, especially in year 1 where you want to look at kids but need something manageable. What would have been worse is charging a fee to attend, and charging a fee to tryout. If there are kids our there that don't play in a "pay to play" model they have all of next year to figure out a way to get seen. At some point you have to put responsibility on their local rec club, whether is a soccer in the streets club, a standard Atlanta club, a YMCA or a mexican league -- The administrators of these leagues need to find ways to help players get identified that can't afford to play. Not many clubs will turn away a player that can't pay when they are the quality folks are talking about. And if a club does say, sorry, we can't help you, there are many other options to choose. I agree - my experience is that clubs will break their financial policies and rules to accommodate a player the coach wants, and the dues are paid by the parents that are able (pooling money). And then, the same supportive parents provide transportation for the kids.
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Post by infoguy on Apr 19, 2016 9:37:25 GMT -5
Do we know that there definitely will be ID sessions for the older groups? 2001 and older?
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Post by footy on Apr 19, 2016 9:41:18 GMT -5
Web site says Yes to ID sessions for 01 and up: "When will the other age groups have ID sessions? Atlanta United will hold ID sessions for additional age groups in the near future. All information concerning future ID sessions will be announced on www.atlutd.com and via Twitter (@atlutd)."
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Post by infoguy on Apr 19, 2016 10:00:37 GMT -5
Interesting - wonder what sort of stuff they're trying to work out. Hope they do it before summer or there will be conflicts...
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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 19, 2016 10:23:28 GMT -5
Its going to suck for those GA United 16s that are aging up to u18, but probably won't make the roster just because of their age. Back to their clubs and high school ball -- which could be a good thing for some, but doesn't make sense from a development standpoint for quality kids to miss out just because of being younger
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Post by footy on Apr 19, 2016 10:27:12 GMT -5
Interesting - wonder what sort of stuff they're trying to work out. Hope they do it before summer or there will be conflicts… I would think they'd have to do it before summer so kids can try out with other clubs if they don't make it, right?
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Post by zizou on Apr 19, 2016 10:49:01 GMT -5
Its going to suck for those GA United 16s that are aging up to u18, but probably won't make the roster just because of their age. Back to their clubs and high school ball -- which could be a good thing for some, but doesn't make sense from a development standpoint for quality kids to miss out just because of being younger Boys ECNL!
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 19, 2016 11:10:27 GMT -5
Interesting - wonder what sort of stuff they're trying to work out. Hope they do it before summer or there will be conflicts… I would think they'd have to do it before summer so kids can try out with other clubs if they don't make it, right? I heard that the tryouts were invite only and that they would be held before the GA United tryouts and club tryouts
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Post by footy on Apr 19, 2016 11:20:24 GMT -5
Its going to suck for those GA United 16s that are aging up to u18, but probably won't make the roster just because of their age. Back to their clubs and high school ball -- which could be a good thing for some, but doesn't make sense from a development standpoint for quality kids to miss out just because of being younger Boys ECNL! But that won't happen until 2017, right?
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 19, 2016 13:05:05 GMT -5
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Post by infoguy on Apr 21, 2016 6:27:33 GMT -5
I would think they'd have to do it before summer so kids can try out with other clubs if they don't make it, right? I heard that the tryouts were invite only and that they would be held before the GA United tryouts and club tryouts If we are talking about 2001 and older, what GA United tryouts?
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Post by infoguy on Apr 21, 2016 6:28:38 GMT -5
Its going to suck for those GA United 16s that are aging up to u18, but probably won't make the roster just because of their age. Back to their clubs and high school ball -- which could be a good thing for some, but doesn't make sense from a development standpoint for quality kids to miss out just because of being younger Is it definite that Atlanta United will be doing the 2-year blocks like GA United used to do for the older ages?
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 21, 2016 7:15:42 GMT -5
I heard that the tryouts were invite only and that they would be held before the GA United tryouts and club tryouts If we are talking about 2001 and older, what GA United tryouts? I didn't know that you were. Thought you were talking about GA United tryouts overall
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Post by footy on Apr 21, 2016 7:54:49 GMT -5
Its going to suck for those GA United 16s that are aging up to u18, but probably won't make the roster just because of their age. Back to their clubs and high school ball -- which could be a good thing for some, but doesn't make sense from a development standpoint for quality kids to miss out just because of being younger Is it definite that Atlanta United will be doing the 2-year blocks like GA United used to do for the older ages? I can only go by what the web site currently says: "Prior to its first season in MLS, Atlanta United will launch its fully funded Academy and begin competing in the U.S. Soccer Development Academy program in August 2016. The Atlanta United Academy will consist of teams in age groups U-12, U-13, U-14, U-15, U-16, and U-18." Here is the link atlutd.com/atlanta-united-academy-overview/
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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 21, 2016 7:59:50 GMT -5
All of USDA will have u12, u13, u14, u16 and u18. (some clubs are obviously u12 only, and others u13/u14 only)
To date I've heard no discussion of adding u15s and u17s. I could see the MLS academies going this route soon though.
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Post by SoccerMom on May 25, 2016 8:21:19 GMT -5
Is it definite that Atlanta United will be doing the 2-year blocks like GA United used to do for the older ages? I can only go by what the web site currently says: "Prior to its first season in MLS, Atlanta United will launch its fully funded Academy and begin competing in the U.S. Soccer Development Academy program in August 2016. The Atlanta United Academy will consist of teams in age groups U-12, U-13, U-14, U-15, U-16, and U-18." Here is the link atlutd.com/atlanta-united-academy-overview/Someone told me that they will not be fielding a U15 team after all. I also heard that some 02's got calls last night, what I'm confused about is...will those 02's play U16 then?
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Post by footy on May 25, 2016 8:27:07 GMT -5
02's are U14 (DA not doing age mandate yet); 00/01 are eligible for U16 (and maybe some amazing 02's)
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Post by SoccerMom on May 25, 2016 8:30:32 GMT -5
02's are U14 (DA not doing age mandate yet); 00/01 are eligible for U16 (and maybe some amazing 02's) With or without mandate, 02's are U15 in the fall
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 25, 2016 8:35:27 GMT -5
DA age groups for next year are this:
u12 - 2004/2005 U13 - 2003 u14 - 2002 u16 - 2001/2000 U18 - 1999/1998
Do any other clubs have a u15 team, if so Who do they play? Do they play as a club team in the equivlanet of classic or RPL?
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Post by footy on May 25, 2016 8:45:04 GMT -5
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Post by footy on May 25, 2016 8:46:39 GMT -5
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Post by SoccerMom on May 25, 2016 20:37:28 GMT -5
01's got email saying decisions won't ve made until Friday
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