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Post by mamampira on Jun 21, 2016 14:15:28 GMT -5
The Confederations Cup is pretty much a pre-world cup tune up. And yes the US did well then. Nevertheless, when one considers all the various variables at play tonight: host nation, Messi, Copa America itself, TV audience, etc. etc., IMO, this is the biggest game since the WC.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jun 21, 2016 19:52:20 GMT -5
15 minutes away!!!
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Post by zizou on Jun 21, 2016 20:35:51 GMT -5
Wondolowski has no business being in this match. Too slow, not sufficiently technical, and he just attempted a shin guard trap!
In addition, he just gave ball away cheaply leading to his yellow card foul on Messi and Messi free kick goal. Put in the kid!
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Post by mamampira on Jun 21, 2016 20:46:25 GMT -5
Bradley is getting run over in the midfield. Mentally they've been defending from the get go. They should ease up. Not try to match them in terms of skills. Should go back to fundamentals. Dempsey is ineffective. PS I only have on US player on my fantasy league team. Jeff Cameron. And he's picked up a couple points with that good tackle.
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Post by zizou on Jun 21, 2016 20:57:49 GMT -5
Bradley needs to stop giving ball away. Beckerman also does not belong in this match. Sit Beckerman. Sit Wondo. Put in Nagbe and Pulisic and move Bradley back to the pivot. They NEED more skill and quicks out there. This was about the worst possible midfield for USMNT given the opponent.
Cameron has been awesome!
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Post by mamampira on Jun 21, 2016 21:44:02 GMT -5
Camera on Wood and Jones brings to mind how Wood would have kept the Argentina busy on the wing. Macherano has been in the US half of the field most of the game. Mercado too. If Wood were there it would have kept some pressure on Argentinas Defense and midfield. Keeping them honest. They may not have maintained as much ball control.
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Post by mamampira on Jun 21, 2016 21:55:57 GMT -5
Bradley caused goal numero four. Not a clean pass. Team Player not anticipating it too. His days are numbered.
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Post by rifle on Jun 22, 2016 6:42:47 GMT -5
We compete on guts alone. It isn't close to good enough.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jun 22, 2016 7:26:24 GMT -5
Played scared and timid from the start. Not a single player grades better than a D.
Zusi was an absolute train wreck. Bradley had no business being on the field
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Post by rifle on Jun 22, 2016 7:39:02 GMT -5
Against the best in the world, we aren't even close. It's the JV team vs State Champs. US Soccer has structural problems that will keep us under the glass ceiling.
Tactics, mostly movement without the ball, is our biggest failing once we get the ball. There is a reason Messi is always open. His teammates all deliberately find space WITH PURPOSE.
Chasing the ball is no fun.
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Post by zizou on Jun 22, 2016 19:28:04 GMT -5
This won't take long:
1, USMNT obviously outplayed on every conceivable metric 2. Being more physical (stepping on toes) is not the answer 3. Being more athletic is not the answer 4. Having a standardized "National" style of play is not the answer 5. Having players with the technical proficiency to perform at speed and with sophistication would help 6. The high point of USMNT was in 2009 at Confederations Cup 7. Players on that 2009 team were superior, on average, to players on this team 8. More players on that team were playing in top leagues than players on this team (at least that is my recollection) 9. That being said, this USMNT can compete against good teams if they have their veteran first choice lineup 10. Problem is those veterans are getting a bit long in the tooth, and without them the team is seriously compromised (no depth) 11. Coaching is obviously suspect, but, at this level, players of limited talents are easily exposed; the coaches can only do so much without quality players 12. Development of talent and identification of quality falls at lap of USSF 13. USSF started DA in 2007, that is almost exactly 9 years ago. NINE YEARS. 14. If 9 years is not enough time to show promise in talent development, there is something wrong with the development system (our young stars are not products of the DA) 15. The chosen USSF development model is the responsibility of the USSF leadership 16. Why does Sunil Gulati still have a job? 17. I can't wait to see how long it takes for them to ruin USWNT with GDAP
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Post by spectator on Jun 22, 2016 21:47:17 GMT -5
This won't take long: 1, USMNT obviously outplayed on every conceivable metric 2. Being more physical (stepping on toes) is not the answer 3. Being more athletic is not the answer 4. Having a standardized "National" style of play is not the answer 5. Having players with the technical proficiency to perform at speed and with sophistication would help 6. The high point of USMNT was in 2009 at Confederations Cup 7. Players on that 2009 team were superior, on average, to players on this team 8. More players on that team were playing in top leagues than players on this team (at least that is my recollection) 9. That being said, this USMNT can compete against good teams if they have their veteran first choice lineup 10. Problem is those veterans are getting a bit long in the tooth, and without them the team is seriously compromised (no depth) 11. Coaching is obviously suspect, but, at this level, players of limited talents are easily exposed; the coaches can only do so much without quality players 12. Development of talent and identification of quality falls at lap of USSF 13. USSF started DA in 2007, that is almost exactly 9 years ago. NINE YEARS. 14. If 9 years is not enough time to show promise in talent development, there is something wrong with the development system (our young stars are not products of the DA) 15. The chosen USSF development model is the responsibility of the USSF leadership 16. Why does Sunil Gulati still have a job? 17. I can't wait to see how long it takes for them to ruin USWNT with GDAP 18. USWT was fine without all this mess - why drag them down??? Not being trite here - the USWT should have been the litmus not the USMT. Go with what works not try to force what has never worked. Although, I predict the USWT will start to falter because of the youth system. Our performance last night against Argentina was an eye opener - at least I hope - the US is not competitive on the world stage using the current model. And it's really only a matter of time before the USWT starts to falter with all these 'elite' leagues layering on top of one another and parents chasing instant gratification over actual player development. Those parents want ROI not development - they want the D1 full ride not a skilled player who can compete internationally. Change that - you change our results
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Post by Keeper on Jun 25, 2016 18:02:04 GMT -5
Over under on tonight's score?? 4? 5? 6? 9?
Or does Timmy do what he does best and make saves? I'm feeling a 1-0 lose similar with the US holding on to dear life with little offensive production.
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Post by rifle on Jun 25, 2016 20:20:13 GMT -5
I will start by saying I don't think JK is a great manager. He has been good, though, because he is not afraid to verbalize what he believes are problems. I also recognize our player pool is a mile wide and an inch deep, thanks to "pay to play". So I truly believe firing JK will not make a difference.
For the foreseeable future, USMNT will beat (and occasionally lose to) minnows and lose to (and occasionally beat) quality opponents. It sucks.
....but how in the world can JK believe Zardes should be in our best 11? Or 1100?
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