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Post by guest on Jul 21, 2016 7:57:51 GMT -5
Here's a hypothetical for you. Let's say there are 4 GA teams in RPL 1st division. They all finish in the middle of the division, neither promoted nor relegated. In May, none of them advance to the Final Four at State Cup - four new teams play there. The Champion is from Classic/Athena.
Who goes to RPL? Does the state champion not earn a spot?
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 21, 2016 9:51:32 GMT -5
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Post by mark on Jul 21, 2016 23:03:57 GMT -5
In your scenario, four new teams would be in 1st Divsion.(provided the current 1st Division teams didn't qualify ahead of the four new teams in the qualification criteria). Every 1st Division team that is not promoted to Premier is effectively relegated from 1st until they each qualify again. Better example would be to use 2 teams.
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Post by guest on Jul 22, 2016 8:25:18 GMT -5
So you're saying that if you finish 3rd place in the 1st division, and you don't make it to final four at state cup, you are probably out.
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Post by mark on Jul 22, 2016 8:43:53 GMT -5
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Post by guest on Jul 22, 2016 11:49:29 GMT -5
I just hope that certain decisions last year to not quite finish out the RPL season, won't come back to haunt certain clubs. I.e. the difference between getting a pre-qualified spot, or hoping that GSSA puts you back in.
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Post by letissier on Jul 22, 2016 12:17:06 GMT -5
When do the teams getting the spots get announced?
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Post by infoguy on Jul 22, 2016 13:34:15 GMT -5
I think SRPL has made their decisions - your manager or whoever has the login to GotSoccer can see the result of their application.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 22, 2016 15:52:25 GMT -5
So did tophat/NASA retain that rpl spot for last years u15 girls NASA team?
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Post by infoguy on Jul 26, 2016 7:51:18 GMT -5
So did tophat/NASA retain that rpl spot for last years u15 girls NASA team? The team contact in GotSoccer should have received an acceptance by now, but nothing final (schedules, etc.) on SRPL East's site yet that I can see.
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Post by spectator on Jul 26, 2016 8:58:13 GMT -5
So did tophat/NASA retain that rpl spot for last years u15 girls NASA team? I heard they did but for UFA Milton playing as U17 this year so it's a mixed 00-01 team. Guess they got what they wanted. I think this will set a very bad precedence where clubs can recruit full teams over to achieve an RPL spot. If the rule is that the spot stays with the club, then that's how it should be. Granted most (not all) of the girls on that team were the ones who earned the spot, the assumption is the players that earn it stay with the club. Years ago, Ambush had an RPL spot and when most of that team moved to AFU for ECNL. Ambush held tryouts to try to hold the spot but couldn't get the level of players to keep it. The spot went to either the team that finished first in Athena A or one of the final four for State Cup - I forget which. Awarding the RPL spot to the team - regardless of which club they have moved to has potential to open up a whole can of worms in the future.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 26, 2016 9:03:07 GMT -5
spectator Please clarify what you heard? - NASA or UFA Milton got the spot? The question is why is RPL different than state rules, I guess each state has their own rules, and thats probably the answer. But if a 75% of a current Athena A team left a club to go to Club Zebras. Then when they applied for athena A status, they would most likely get athena A since they had so many previous athena A players and players from a previous athena A team. This year is a little different because of the age mandate etc, but was under the impression that now RPL did require roster continuity?
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Post by guest on Jul 26, 2016 10:08:32 GMT -5
This year is a little different because of the age mandate etc, but was under the impression that now RPL did require roster continuity? Not sure that continuity rule is being enforced. Same old story with Pre-ECNL teams earning a spot in U13 and then giving it to the second team the following season:
2016 SRPL EAST Girls U15 Premier GSA GSA 02 Red RPL Girls U15 GA 7/19 - Accepted in Premier as GSA 03 Pre-ECNL; need to confirm name
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Post by spectator on Jul 26, 2016 11:33:38 GMT -5
spectator Please clarify what you heard? - NASA or UFA Milton got the spot? The question is why is RPL different than state rules, I guess each state has their own rules, and thats probably the answer. But if a 75% of a current Athena A team left a club to go to Club Zebras. Then when they applied for athena A status, they would most likely get athena A since they had so many previous athena A players and players from a previous athena A team. This year is a little different because of the age mandate etc, but was under the impression that now RPL did require roster continuity? I heard the team will playing RPL out of UFA Milton as U17. This from a parent on that team now. Not sure if there's been any communication other than what she was told by the Team manager but she's got a player on the team so I count that as pretty reliable. And I said the same thing to her I posted above - it's great they got what they wanted but even she agreed it was something that could cause problems in the future. While yes, they have roster continuity, but an entire team leaving club A for Club Z and taking their RPL spot is pretty uncharted territory and probably does need clarification from GA Soccer to avoid some creative recruiting by clubs in the future. Regardless - I heard what I heard - take it for hearsay until the lists are published - but it did come from a parent not some other forum.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 26, 2016 11:38:39 GMT -5
Thanks
That being said I'd much prefer a team like the new UFA Milton team get it, with players that earned the spot vs entire new roster of kids that didn't play on the team the prior year etc -- like mentioned above with GSA ecnl players earning spot and then the spot going to the 2nd team etc.
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Post by fan on Jul 26, 2016 11:39:54 GMT -5
spectator Please clarify what you heard? - NASA or UFA Milton got the spot? What I heard is UFA Milton, UFA Premier, SSA Premier in SRPL Premier for U17. Norcross, Tophat Gold and Ambush in 1st division. Roswell presumably back to A.
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Post by spectator on Jul 26, 2016 13:05:05 GMT -5
spectator Please clarify what you heard? - NASA or UFA Milton got the spot? What I heard is UFA Milton, UFA Premier, SSA Premier in SRPL Premier for U17. Norcross, Tophat Gold and Ambush in 1st division. Roswell presumably back to A. The age group 2000's rising U17's didn't have teams from Ambush or Roswell last year in fact I'm pretty sure the 2001/rising U16 Roswell team from last year is broken apart as well. Heard those girls went to Concorde or other teams in the area. The whole calendar year thing has created completely new teams in every age group - it'll be interesting to see how the brackets for all levels perform.
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Post by fan on Jul 27, 2016 10:52:21 GMT -5
Yep, brackets will be a litttle crazy for a while. Roswell U15 girls were in Division 1 last fall. I hadn't heard if they lost their spot or if the team dissolved, just that they aren't on the list for U17. Sorry to hear that they may not be together. Ambush is new to RPL after the u15s did so well in State Cup.
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Post by soccerenthusiast on Jul 28, 2016 10:47:53 GMT -5
Unfortunately the Roswell U15 Girls team did dissolve, 4 or so of the best players went to Ambush to join them in RPL after a couple Ambush players moved and quit soccer.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 28, 2016 10:58:41 GMT -5
That roswell team was a great story. Didn't they start off in athena B at u13 was it even athena C?
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Post by soccerenthusiast on Jul 28, 2016 11:41:48 GMT -5
They did, just like the Ambush team. They had a great coach for a couple years KS who is now coaching at UFA. She could not continue to coach them since she is also a high school coach, heard that maybe the replacement was not as good and may have contributed to the downfall along w/ the age decree.
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Post by jack4343 on Jul 28, 2016 12:34:57 GMT -5
That roswell team was a great story. Didn't they start off in athena B at u13 was it even athena C? They were in C/D East (or West). My daughters team played them that year. They beat the snot out of everyone they played. Never should've been there. Shame they disbanded as that was a special team. My daughter did a practice scrimage with the u16 Roswell state cup team against that u15 team before state cup and they still looked awesome then.
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Post by rifle on Jul 28, 2016 16:17:59 GMT -5
That team was misplaced from the start. Proper placement at U13 depends on club reputation and lobbying. Santos for several years hasn't had those things. Changing that takes continuous effort. It's nice to see Santos teams coming out of academy ages and getting placed in higher brackets.. despite "big clubs" unwillingness to schedule them in academy.
Getting placed in D and making it to RPL is a Real ”development” story. Better than any destination club seems to do with lower level teams.
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Post by infoguy on Jul 29, 2016 7:39:15 GMT -5
They earned it, and even hung in there after some very talented players left the club before their RPL season - so they were not as strong as they should have been. The coach that replaced the long time coach last year is a great coach, just for the record.
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Post by soccertwins on Aug 2, 2016 18:54:15 GMT -5
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Post by Kick Goals 10 on Aug 3, 2016 7:59:33 GMT -5
Where is the GSA 01G's that won Athena A? I do not see them on the list...
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Post by Keeper on Aug 3, 2016 13:05:50 GMT -5
Where is the GSA 01G's that won Athena A? I do not see them on the list... Got broken up with the mandate and the huge upheaval from GSA.
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Post by fan on Aug 3, 2016 14:35:25 GMT -5
Where is the GSA 01G's that won Athena A? I do not see them on the list... Got broken up with the mandate and the huge upheaval from GSA. I don't know how up to date their soccerincollege page is but it looks like it's mostly the former U15 Red Athena A team from last year with a few of the U14 Athena A players. I suspect they'll do well in A. Sounds like their 02s and 00s will be a different story but their 01 rosters look pretty good. soccer.sincsports.com/TTTeam.aspx?id=GAF01975
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