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Post by rifle on Nov 23, 2013 9:31:47 GMT -5
Feel free to clarify why.
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Post by spectator on Nov 23, 2013 12:23:59 GMT -5
Why would it matter unless the job the coach had involved a lot of traveling where he or she would miss trainings or games? Considering kids are in school until late afternoon, what exactly would a full time coach be doing from 8-5ish?
I voted 'don't care' because it's nobody's business. Same argument can be made for working moms versus stay at home moms - nobody's business but the individuals who made that choice. Back in the Dr. Laura radio hey-day, this argument irritated me to death when people were so judgmental either way - it doesn't matter if or where another person works - unless they beat you out for that job - it's none of your business.
As long as the coach is there for the team at trainings and games, I don't give a flying flip if he or she works elsewhere!
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Post by jash on Nov 23, 2013 13:24:57 GMT -5
One could argue that a full-time coach might spend more of their time/energy thinking about and improving their coaching. On the other hand, one could also argue that someone with a full-time job outside of coaching might have different perspectives on things.
I voted don't care either, but I can see there could be people who would prefer one or the other.
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Post by fan on Nov 23, 2013 17:16:21 GMT -5
One thing I like about having a coach with a day job is that they often don't coach as many teams. There's a lot more flexibility for doing tournaments and we don't run into conflicts with trying to schedule around 1 (or 2 or 3) other teams.
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Post by soccerpapi on Nov 23, 2013 21:15:35 GMT -5
Voted "don't care" as not the most important criteria in a Coach. More full time Coaches at some clubs may mean higher cost passed down to the paying parents. We've had both types at great quality.
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Post by rifle on Nov 24, 2013 8:48:27 GMT -5
I want my response to be don't care, but I have seen coaches barely scrape by on a soccer only income. It shouldn't matter, to me, but it's something I think should be discussed. Despite the high fees we all pay, Coaches really don't make much money. Sure, you can break it down by the hour and think it is a grand lifestyle - but Logistically, it is near impossible to coach enough teams to survive without offering paid training on the side. When you become dependent on side training income, it creates a problem. Everyone doesn't have limitless cash for this stuff. When the coach implies that his players must participate in extra training, or else they fall from favor.. It is a problem to me.
So I prefer a coach with a day job.
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Post by spursman63 on Nov 25, 2013 8:41:16 GMT -5
The only thing I can add to this is my opinion concerning people skills. In our Youth Soccer system, the player and the family are customers, not candidates. I see a lot of coaches that coach only and a lot that coach after a day job. In a customer oriented system, I prefer to see coaches with people skills in addition to soccer knowledge. Managing people, parents and players, is an acquired skill, most often associated with real world business experience. So if a full time coach has the ability to do that, then that is great, but my experiences around the country is they often lack the ability to manage people, including their coaching staff, if they are directors. I find those dynamics quite interesting.
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Post by silverback on Nov 25, 2013 13:55:40 GMT -5
Another good discussion!
My two cents and it goes back to what I've mentioned on some threads lately - a lot depends on what age your kids are playing. As your kids get older, the focus goes from technical development to tactical execution and then you start to look at other attributes that a coach brings, such as connections, relationships, ability to help your kids get recognized (for college), etc.
For the later years (around U15 and up), the coaches who are full time are the one's who can help the most and are probably more important. Your part time coach is typically not going to have the same connections & relationships across the board.
Again, and I want to stress, all this depends on what your KIDS want to do beyond the high school years and their talent level. For me, it's always been about having fun, playing hard, and hopefully learning some life lessons along the way. But as your kids get older, you may need to look at things differently, which may force some of you to make hard decisions in terms of clubs, coaches, playing with friends, etc.
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