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Post by newtothis on Dec 3, 2013 16:00:23 GMT -5
My daughter plays for one of the larger clubs in metro Atlanta. She and I are not happy with her development this fall. Her current team is filled with superior athletes, therefore the coach has decided to play "kick-ball" and let our bigger, stronger, faster forwards outrun the defenders in hopes of getting a one vs. one with the goalie. Rather than train in practice we look for scrimmage games. Ball control is rarely practiced.
In my opinion, for 12 year olds, ball control and first touch should be stressed rather than just kicking the ball as far as you can.
What's the rules for transferring in January with Georgia Soccer?
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Post by jash on Dec 3, 2013 16:29:04 GMT -5
Unless your club feels vindictive, you should be able to get a release from them if you have a legitimate beef. They will probably require you to pay the full year of fees though.
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Post by TheMadOx on Dec 3, 2013 16:33:26 GMT -5
Most clubs will not allow you to leave your club in the middle of the year without paying the remaining fees. In extreme cases I have seen players go through Georgia Soccer to intervene. But that is usually for cases of unethicalness (is that a word?)
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Post by zizou on Dec 3, 2013 18:31:16 GMT -5
My daughter plays for one of the larger clubs in metro Atlanta. She and I are not happy with her development this fall. Her current team is filled with superior athletes, therefore the coach has decided to play "kick-ball" and let our bigger, stronger, faster forwards outrun the defenders in hopes of getting a one vs. one with the goalie. Rather than train in practice we look for scrimmage games. Ball control is rarely practiced. Hi. Was wondering if your coach is new or is same coach as last year but for some reason (different players?) has changed philosophies. Perhaps there are new girls that were used to playing more direct on a previous team and they are doing it out of habit rather than because this is what coach wants? I do not know the specifics obviously. It would be troubling if all the team ever does is scrimmage, unless there are specific teaching points that are covered during stoppages of play on a frequent basis. Some coaches expect the kids to be working on technique at home at high volume (or expect kids to attend additional technique sessions at the club on different nights) so they can work strategy and team tactics in team training. Not saying this is best approach, just suggesting it as a possibility. If you don't like the club and want to leave that is one thing. But if it is just an issue with this one season, then maybe talking to the coach or the DOC would be a less dramatic first step. This also sounds like a situation that could lead to problems returning to the club in the future if not handled well. Not an issue if you are really trying to leave the club, not the coach and team. Have you tried talking to the coach about their playing style? Maybe in the guise of trying to figure out what you and your daughter should be working on at home to improve her play to help the team. |
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Post by newtothis on Dec 3, 2013 21:26:57 GMT -5
I've talked to the coach and the style of play is being pushed down from the DOC. I've paid for the remainder of the season and am willing to walk away from the $ to get my daughter the training she needs. |
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Post by spectator on Dec 3, 2013 22:38:21 GMT -5
Suggestion - don't leave the club until tryouts. Research where you and your daughter want to go next. Get some private coaching sessions at that club. It will help her development and help at tryouts. Coaches will always give a talented newcomer a good look at tryouts.
If your daughter is U12, get the extra training before U13 tryouts - there is a lot of movement between clubs at that age. If she's U13 already, definitely get the coaching sessions at the club you think you want to be with next year. Between U13 and U14 there is a lot of jockeying to get on an ECNL or possible RPL team - the more she can stand out at a tryout at a new club, the better.
Also - it does matter what division you play at U13 if you're looking to move at U14. We had a bunch of girls from another club come to tryouts this year - the second the coaches heard 'Athena A' or 'Athena D', that's where the girls were placed for the duration of tryouts - it sucks but when they are looking at literally hundreds of girls, they need to be able to quickly assess and place them.
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Post by zizou on Dec 4, 2013 7:36:03 GMT -5
But if you do feel you must transfer now, here is the relevant section of the GYSA rules:
310.2. Select Programs
310.2a. Once a select program player has registered with an member affiliate, the player is bound to
that affiliate until the end of the year for which the registration applies.
310.2b Once a select program player is registered with an affiliate and rostered to a team, a transfer is required to move to a team in another member affiliate (inter-affiliate) during that seasonal year; however, a player who is released from his/her team may not transfer to a team in another member affiliate until his/her team’s full year commitments are completed, including State Cup, unless the transfer request has been approved by all parties.
310.2c A player may be released from his/her team at any time and will be put on inactive status with Georgia Soccer. In order to be returned to active status during the same seasonal year, the player must go back to his/her original affiliated member affiliate and re-register or initiate a transfer request with that member affiliate.
310.2d Once a select program player is rostered to a team, that player’s financial obligation as published by the member affiliate and accepted by the player must be satisfied before a transfer will be approved.
1. Select players are limited to one transfer to another Select team per seasonal year. The Georgia Soccer Registrar may approve an additional transfer in order to allow a Select player to participate when otherwise the player may not have the opportunity.
310.2e If a player believes he/she has an extraordinary reason to transfer outside of the parameters stated in Rules 310.2b, 310.2c, 310.2d & 310.2d1, then the player must submit written notification of appeal with the rationale for consideration to the Georgia Soccer Registrar’s Committee. Extraordinary circumstances could include but are not limited to unethical behavior by any party (to be determined by Georgia Soccer Ethics and Grievance- Youth) or significant change of address.
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Post by zizou on Dec 4, 2013 11:49:08 GMT -5
Forgot to add that if you are intent on leaving, you should have an amicable conversation with DOC explaining reasons for wishing to transfer that have nothing to do with criticizing club, approach to play, club administration, coaches etc. You do not want these folks irritated with you especially given that you need their cooperation. Then if you really want to do this, you go to the Georgia Soccer Affinity Sports login, log in to your account, and under your daughter's name there will be a tab for requesting a release/transfer. Apologies if you already knew this part of process. If you already know the club and team to which you are moving then you can enter that information. Then your current club will have to release you and the new club will need to add you. If you have yet to decide on a new club you can just request the release. Current club still has to release you. But then I believe you are free to be legally recruited by other clubs.
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Post by newtothis on Dec 5, 2013 15:56:51 GMT -5
Thanks to everyone for the advice. My daughter and I will be discussing some more during the break and will not make a rash decision.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Dec 5, 2013 16:11:25 GMT -5
yes don't burn bridges, the grass isnt' always greener. no club is perfect.
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Post by dreaddy on Dec 5, 2013 16:36:28 GMT -5
...If you have yet to decide on a new club you can just request the release. Current club still has to release you. But then I believe you are free to be legally recruited by other clubs. One warning. The difference between a release and a transfer is that with a release you are basically dropping out of soccer for the rest of the seasonal year. If you get a release and then decide to play somewhere else you will still have to go back to your original club and get a transfer. |
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