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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 16, 2017 9:16:45 GMT -5
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Post by infoguy on May 16, 2017 9:55:04 GMT -5
I would double-check that. The calendar has the same thing in 2 other places (dates).
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Post by cantgetright on May 16, 2017 10:22:59 GMT -5
I have a decision to make. Thoughts on Driving 3 hours round trip to UFA for DA or 2 hours round trip to Concorde Fire DA. Thoughts?
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Post by footy on May 16, 2017 10:31:34 GMT -5
I have a decision to make. Thoughts on Driving 3 hours round trip to UFA for DA or 2 hours round trip to Concorde Fire DA. Thoughts? Girl or boy, what age group? 2 hours is way better than 3!
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Post by SoccerMom on May 16, 2017 10:32:01 GMT -5
U9 - U12 Academy players can initiate contact with clubs for tryout purposes, not for the older kids yet
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 16, 2017 10:35:08 GMT -5
U9 - U12 Academy players can initiate contact with clubs for tryout purposes, not for the older kids yet That is correct, this only applies to the Academy players, the Athena/Classic open date is May 23rd...
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 16, 2017 10:41:55 GMT -5
I have a decision to make. Thoughts on Driving 3 hours round trip to UFA for DA or 2 hours round trip to Concorde Fire DA. Thoughts? Girl or boy, what age group? 2 hours is way better than 3! 4 nights a week, stick with what is closer
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 16, 2017 10:42:36 GMT -5
I have a decision to make. Thoughts on Driving 3 hours round trip to UFA for DA or 2 hours round trip to Concorde Fire DA. Thoughts? I think this all depends on if it's a boy or girl and what your goals are for your kid. It is my belief that DA for boys is better run out of UFA. They do a better job developing and improving players. Plus I hear there might be some turmoil going on within the CF DA leadership ranks. In regards to the GDA, right now since it's new it might be a wash. I can't say definitively which would be better right now, but you do have to give the edge to CF since they have been involved with ECNL so are familiar with a high level of play on the girls side. Then again, UFA might even things up with their overall philosophy of developing players and the fact that it might be hard to break into an established team like that of CF. If you have a girl and she can flat out play, you might have a better chance of getting on to a team with UFA... Just my 2 1/2 cents.
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Post by infoguy on May 16, 2017 11:22:42 GMT -5
Nice tough choice to have!
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Post by allthingsoccer on May 16, 2017 11:25:04 GMT -5
I feel both DA's offer great development. I would look at the coaches as well. Great opportunities all around. The slight advantage is CF. 2 hrs is better than 3. We have a 3 hr RT next season
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Post by infoguy on May 16, 2017 11:27:37 GMT -5
I have a decision to make. Thoughts on Driving 3 hours round trip to UFA for DA or 2 hours round trip to Concorde Fire DA. Thoughts? Girl or boy, what age group? 2 hours is way better than 3! You already have offers? What age?
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Post by cantgetright on May 16, 2017 12:24:25 GMT -5
It is for boys. He can play and yes infoguy, he has options. I think both coaches can develop. So with the perception that the coaches are equal, what would you do? My biggest concern is something I have witnessed regarding National Training Centers and that is UFA gets half a team sent and Concorde gets half of that sent. Knowing these players it is hard to fathom how, because those decisions are not being based on talent and play. If those decisions are being based on club reputation then that is why I am concerned.
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Post by allthingsoccer on May 16, 2017 13:24:31 GMT -5
Sorry but I think it goes both ways. We have played against UFA for years and sometimes you see sloppy play as you do at Concorde, varies by team to team. As well as the coaches. As for NTC no matter what team you are on, if you are a baller you will get looks.
Not sure of birth year we are talking about or position. A goalkeeper??
The last two NTC's for 04/03 had mostly Atlanta United and Concorde and sprinkles of the other clubs. The current 04 team lost 4 players to Atlanta United. Might be some good opportunities to make it
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 16, 2017 14:28:43 GMT -5
Thanks for the thread.... I actually do want to see if anyone has any knowledge of UFA - Milton. I know UFA-Milton is a relatively new location to the UFA, but I was curious if any of you have any insight into where you see it heading? Are there any current UFA-Forsyth players or parents considering the move to this newer branch? I've heard that UFA-Forsyth is a little over crowded as it is, and that there were quite a few players from the Milton area playing there, so this could make some since to go where it is less crowded and more convenient, no? Although we are not one of those that live in Milton it would be the closest UFA location to us and we are considering making the move. My concern is that it won't be built up to have a deep enough talent pool for Academy players. As to why we a considering the move, we are from a smaller club and the level of play (once you hit 11 v11 teams) will start to differentiate greatly for the top of the roster to the bottom. I could be wrong, but I'm worried that may stunt our daughters growth because you can only practice/play as a good as the weaker players on the team... but if UFA-Milton is not going to grow in time for a move over there, then is it really worth it? Any insight would be appreciated!!
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Post by allthingsoccer on May 16, 2017 15:31:04 GMT -5
I think the DA will be at Fowler or pinckneyville. Again not sure. What birth year? You may want to see who has ECNL
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 16, 2017 15:44:06 GMT -5
I think the DA will be at Fowler or pinckneyville. Again not sure. What birth year? You may want to see who has ECNL I'm not really looking for DA... too many restrictions, just wanted to know if anyone had insight as to whether they think Milton will be large enough to support top level Academy soccer (U9-U12), not DA. ... and whether or not they will have a large amount of kids that were having to go to Forysth that will now take advantage of the Milton proximity.
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Post by allthingsoccer on May 16, 2017 17:09:08 GMT -5
not sure. they have select locations for different programs. Might want to call and see what age group and level will be at that location.
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Post by footballer on May 16, 2017 20:08:47 GMT -5
I have a decision to make. Thoughts on Driving 3 hours round trip to UFA for DA or 2 hours round trip to Concorde Fire DA. Thoughts? CF does not charge for ooc (out of county fee) while UFA charges a whopping $300 in addition to other expenses for non residents. Honestly, I doubt either clubs are worth the money or time. Look for something close to you and avoid the stress. AU would be worth the time and effort, at least its free... All these clubs can learn a lesson from AU DA programs and make it free if they really are trying to be a special club, instead of money grabbing business it is now...... I'm sure there is an advocate out there that would say that "oh DA can't be free" and has a 99 reasons to back it up, well I say, look at AU or look at Europe and tell me why they have all that talent.....Not saying this is Europe but Okay worst case scenario, cut price into half.....Money grab at all levels is not helping US soccer... I don't know the finances of the clubs but I'm guessing they are making good profit from all the other leagues and teams. No incentives, and the financial aid stuff is silliness.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 21:13:53 GMT -5
Yea. Their excuse is offering it for free then the players have no skin in the game and all quit to go play high school spring their senior year.
Found it interesting that at the ufa da meeting they made a point to say they got together with the other 6 u12 teams to agree on a cost. One apparently had already committed to less.
These clubs don't agree on anything -- except for what they are going to charge.
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Post by fanatic21 on May 16, 2017 21:19:29 GMT -5
Thanks for the thread.... I actually do want to see if anyone has any knowledge of UFA - Milton. I know UFA-Milton is a relatively new location to the UFA, but I was curious if any of you have any insight into where you see it heading? Are there any current UFA-Forsyth players or parents considering the move to this newer branch? I've heard that UFA-Forsyth is a little over crowded as it is, and that there were quite a few players from the Milton area playing there, so this could make some since to go where it is less crowded and more convenient, no? Although we are not one of those that live in Milton it would be the closest UFA location to us and we are considering making the move. My concern is that it won't be built up to have a deep enough talent pool for Academy players. As to why we a considering the move, we are from a smaller club and the level of play (once you hit 11 v11 teams) will start to differentiate greatly for the top of the roster to the bottom. I could be wrong, but I'm worried that may stunt our daughters growth because you can only practice/play as a good as the weaker players on the team... but if UFA-Milton is not going to grow in time for a move over there, then is it really worth it? Any insight would be appreciated!!
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Post by fanatic21 on May 16, 2017 21:26:27 GMT -5
Meant to reply to UFA Milton questions but I think I just quoted them. I don't think UFA Milton think has much of a girls academy program, if any. If you are close to UFA Milton and have a rising u10 (08) or u11 (07) girl, I'd take her to Roswell Santos. Their current u10s (07s) may be the top team in the state at that age group and their current u9s (08s) aren't bad either.
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Post by mama2girls on May 17, 2017 3:31:31 GMT -5
Advice needed: like club and coaching for most part. Players are inconsistent with their commitment to soccer. Switch or not?
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 17, 2017 7:14:26 GMT -5
Yea. Their excuse is offering it for free then the players have no skin in the game and all quit to go play high school spring their senior year. Found it interesting that at the ufa da meeting they made a point to say they got together with the other 6 u12 teams to agree on a cost. One apparently had already committed to less. These clubs don't agree on anything -- except for what they are going to charge. Since we're talking about money, here is an interesting article on Dalton starting an elite program and will offer it for next to nothing... Thoughts? www.daltondailycitizen.com/sports/daser-to-start-elite-soccer-club-in-dalton/article_6631abc6-2606-11e6-a144-d3bbc39799f0.html
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Post by SoccerMom on May 17, 2017 7:40:58 GMT -5
I think the DA will be at Fowler or pinckneyville. Again not sure. What birth year? You may want to see who has ECNL I'm not really looking for DA... too many restrictions, just wanted to know if anyone had insight as to whether they think Milton will be large enough to support top level Academy soccer (U9-U12), not DA. ... and whether or not they will have a large amount of kids that were having to go to Forysth that will now take advantage of the Milton proximity. UFA Milton has been around for a few years, will any of the current Forsyth kids go there? Maybe. They do have some strong teams there, depends the age group. When you go to Forsyth tryouts, the other location coaches will sometimes go and watch kids as well. I have seen kids go to Forsyth tryouts and then end up in one of the other locations because the coaches felt it was a better fit. This weekend is UFA's tournament and the Milton kids will be there, you can pull the schedule and then go check them out if you have time.
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Post by SoccerMom on May 17, 2017 7:47:08 GMT -5
I have a decision to make. Thoughts on Driving 3 hours round trip to UFA for DA or 2 hours round trip to Concorde Fire DA. Thoughts? CF does not charge for ooc (out of county fee) while UFA charges a whopping $300 in addition to other expenses for non residents. Honestly, I doubt either clubs are worth the money or time. Look for something close to you and avoid the stress. AU would be worth the time and effort, at least its free... All these clubs can learn a lesson from AU DA programs and make it free if they really are trying to be a special club, instead of money grabbing business it is now...... I'm sure there is an advocate out there that would say that "oh DA can't be free" and has a 99 reasons to back it up, well I say, look at AU or look at Europe and tell me why they have all that talent.....Not saying this is Europe but Okay worst case scenario, cut price into half.....Money grab at all levels is not helping US soccer... I don't know the finances of the clubs but I'm guessing they are making good profit from all the other leagues and teams. No incentives, and the financial aid stuff is silliness.
UFA doesn't charge $300, Forsyth county does, each location has a different price for that (Gwinnett $180), and there are no other fees for non residents. Even the rec centers will charge you an out of county fee, if you don't want to pay it, then stay in your county. If CF is not charging out of county fees is because their county doesn't charge them anything...this money is supposed to go back towards their parks and fields and CF is not known for having the best fields.....
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Post by mark on May 17, 2017 7:47:30 GMT -5
I have a decision to make. Thoughts on Driving 3 hours round trip to UFA for DA or 2 hours round trip to Concorde Fire DA. Thoughts? What does your kid want to do?
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Post by SoccerMom on May 17, 2017 7:58:13 GMT -5
Meant to reply to UFA Milton questions but I think I just quoted them. I don't think UFA Milton think has much of a girls academy program, if any. If you are close to UFA Milton and have a rising u10 (08) or u11 (07) girl, I'd take her to Roswell Santos. Their current u10s (07s) may be the top team in the state at that age group and their current u9s (08s) aren't bad either. I would have to disagree about Santos, its not a very competitive club, they just don't have the depth and all good players eventually leave. They will also be competing this weekend at the Extreme Cup, so you should check them out as well. I don't have a kid that age so I have never seen them play.
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Post by footballer on May 17, 2017 8:59:23 GMT -5
CF does not charge for ooc (out of county fee) while UFA charges a whopping $300 in addition to other expenses for non residents. Honestly, I doubt either clubs are worth the money or time. Look for something close to you and avoid the stress. AU would be worth the time and effort, at least its free... All these clubs can learn a lesson from AU DA programs and make it free if they really are trying to be a special club, instead of money grabbing business it is now...... I'm sure there is an advocate out there that would say that "oh DA can't be free" and has a 99 reasons to back it up, well I say, look at AU or look at Europe and tell me why they have all that talent.....Not saying this is Europe but Okay worst case scenario, cut price into half.....Money grab at all levels is not helping US soccer... I don't know the finances of the clubs but I'm guessing they are making good profit from all the other leagues and teams. No incentives, and the financial aid stuff is silliness.
UFA doesn't charge $300, Forsyth county does, each location has a different price for that (Gwinnett $180), and there are no other fees for non residents. Even the rec centers will charge you an out of county fee, if you don't want to pay it, then stay in your county. If CF is not charging out of county fees is because their county doesn't charge them anything...this money is supposed to go back towards their parks and fields and CF is not known for having the best fields..... $300 for forsyth county should be included in fees. Other clubs include whatever they pay the county into the fees, not sure why UFA is different with the OOC thing....Its all GA soccer and for the good of the state/country. All I'm saying is that these high costs are driving away a potential great players. I am not advocating people to/not to go to UFA or CF. just stating my opinion with the facts. Both clubs are okay, however neither is so special for someone to drive 25 miles or more to get there especially when you would get charged an extra $300 for being OOC. I agree with you CF have bad field options, not sure how they are still around....Let's see how long they can sustain without fields and AB (Falcons/AU) Anyway, no need to go back and forth about this issue. All I'm saying is soccer is already expensive enough, no need to add extra. just build that fee into total cost. I'm not trying to tell you all how to run your clubs, just suggestions! No need to get personal..... we all we got. each one teach one
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Post by soccernotfootball on May 17, 2017 9:23:47 GMT -5
Too expensive for competitive youth soccer and Georgia Soccer rules are arcane.
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Post by footy on May 17, 2017 9:29:27 GMT -5
Advice needed: like club and coaching for most part. Players are inconsistent with their commitment to soccer. Switch or not? It may be time for a change, but beware that the grass may not be greener at another club. My kid has been playing U17 this year, and every year since U8 rec he has complained about players not being committed to soccer. He has played with 5 different clubs total, and all levels of play (Classic, RPL, NL, HS, DA, Super Y, ODP). The most committed team had a coach that struck fear in their hearts. These kids showed up to every practice 30-45 min. early! That one happened to be a DA team but he had a friend in a different DA club that year, and they would sometimes have only 9 kids show up at practice. All that said, bottom line is to decide if the club and coaching are enough to keep your kid there or if he/she at least wants to try out somewhere else to see other options. Good luck!
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