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Post by lovethegame on Dec 29, 2013 11:06:13 GMT -5
I am just curious as to the opinions of others. Does one formation better suit a particular team? It seems that 4 3 3 is gaining popularity over 4 4 2, at least with some coaches. I read somewhere that strong midfielders are needed for an effective 4 3 3, but to be honest I really don't know how the choice of formation is made. Our team made the switch a few years back. At times we are successful, but at other times it seems we continue to struggle with it.
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Post by jack4343 on Dec 29, 2013 11:49:10 GMT -5
My daughter's team run a 4-3-2-1 (4 defenders, 2 outside mids 1 center defensive mid, 2 attacking mids and 1 forward) which is probably very similar to the above mentioned 4-3-3 in the 1st half and a 4-4-2 in the 2nd half. My daughter is an center mid and prefers the 4-4-2 better as a format as it allows her more freedom to attack but she touches the ball more in the 1st half but plays mostly as a center defensive mid since there are two attacking mids in front of her position.
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Post by dreaddy on Dec 30, 2013 6:39:51 GMT -5
Ideally your coach should use a formation that is based on the available players, not pick a formation then plug the players in. The key to success of a team is to find the best way to use each of the players. If there is enough versatility, a coach might teach the team to play different formations so they can change depending on their opposition or depending on what the game needs.
I had a team that had only played 4-3-3. In the first game of a pre-season tournament the following year, we were getting killed in midfield so I changed to a 4-4-2, telling only the player who I subbed in what was happening. At half time I explained the formation change to the rest of the team. We still didn't win the game, but we competed a lot better with the 4-4-2.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jan 2, 2014 11:02:47 GMT -5
at the younger ages i'm not a fan of playing with 1 forward. very difficult for the single player to be successful, and they end up chasing the ball a lot. prefer 4-4-2.
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Post by bpgbeieio on Jan 9, 2014 18:50:13 GMT -5
My son's team played Cambridge HS last spring. It was a first year school and the team was not very good, but it played a very interesting 4-1-4-1 formation that created a lot of opportunity for a really weak side that could not finish.
The key, it looked like, was the player who played between the defense line and the mids since it was like he played stopper and was the "quarterback" on offense. It really was amazing to watch the opportunities and passing angles that we created by the 4-1-4-1. Our defenders were never really able to get set up against the flashing midfielders.
Our coach told the boys that the other coach used that formation because he had one of the kids who quit DA to play HS and not much else. It really was a shame that the team did not have more finishing talent because they were able to open attack lines more effectively than any other team we played.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 29, 2014 10:22:21 GMT -5
wanted to dig up an old thread --
what formations are most of yalls u13-14s playing. our team has been playing a 4-5-1, and can't score. the striker has to be an extremely special player to thrive under such a formation.
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Post by zizou on Mar 29, 2014 11:45:31 GMT -5
You have yourself a defensive minded coach that wants to control midfield I see. Or the coach believes your striker has the potential of Didier Drogba. I think the idea of 4-5-1 should be that those outside midfielders get forward when you have ball in other team's half, essentially morphing into a 4-3-3.
My issues with this formation are at least twofold. First is that players may adopt a more defensive minded attitude and be reluctant to get forward promptly enough to apply necessary pressure. My other problem is that being so wide in midfield can inhibit the outside backs from getting around those wide midfielders and getting involved in the attack. As a result of these two factors your team will always be outnumbered in your attacking third. It will be hard to score.
I also see this formation as not being very good for developing the overall player at multiple positions. The striker has no one with who to interact. The midfielders can't possibly learn triangle and diamond shaped passing patterns. The outside backs are just going to stand there. And that is just a few of the problems.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2014 9:12:47 GMT -5
whats interesting is we played a u13 A team this season that plays a 4-5-1 this spring. They had a lot of trouble possessing the ball and getting forward with numbers. ironically when i look at the standings, they have given up the 2nd most goals in the group. our parents couldn't believe how often they were trying to score with 1 striker and no support.
we play more of a traditional 4-4-2 and often push a 3rd player forward more. but keep in mind when we are forward, our defenders are often cross mid field. yes we are susceptible to the counter, but we have some speed and poise in the back and we play through the keeper.
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Post by rifle on Mar 31, 2014 19:01:41 GMT -5
normally 4-1-3-2, recently tried 3-5-2 and it was not pretty. all the space the playmakers normally have in the middle was clogged by teammates wandering around lost.
I'd love to see the 4-1-4-1 with this team.
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