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Post by 04gparent on Feb 12, 2018 17:28:16 GMT -5
Hi All,
I have an 04 Daugher who currently plays on a DA team. She and I are keeping a close eye on high school soccer this year as we have some serious decisions to make soon regarding DA and ECNL. Here is my question to the board. Do you know of any 03 ECNL players who made varsity as a freshman for their perspective high school? Please no names, but just let me know the high school and how many.
Basically I am attempting to gauge how many freshman make varsity when they are competting against girls 3 years older.
Thanks!
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Post by neymarscleats on Feb 12, 2018 17:42:52 GMT -5
Hi,
I manage an 03 ECNL team. We have seven 03 freshmen girls that made their respective varsity teams. I hope that helps
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Post by Keeper on Feb 12, 2018 18:41:06 GMT -5
There’s one at Archer who plays ECNL and R3PL for gsa North.
Also heard Marist has 4 ECNL freshmen players that made their girls varsity too.
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Post by fan on Feb 12, 2018 18:43:52 GMT -5
I don't think our school has any 03 ecnl players who tried out but if I remember right all the 99, 00, 01 and 02s who play made varsity as freshmen.
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Post by ultimatedad on Feb 12, 2018 20:13:19 GMT -5
My daughter's 03 team has 9 players on varsity. Only it is an SRPL team. ECNL IS WASHED UP.
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Post by Strikermom on Feb 12, 2018 20:27:47 GMT -5
Unless you are at a soccer powerhouse where every girl is playing high level club, she should make varsity. My daughter was one of 5 fresh,en 2 years ago. They all played club on club Premier teams, not ECNL.
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Post by reinalocura on Feb 13, 2018 11:12:39 GMT -5
HS is not club. Athena B and higher should make varsity as Freshmen unless you are at one of the powerhouse schools Strikermom is talking about. We had Classic 3 boy make our little old HS Varsity team as a Freshman (along with the expected Classic 1 players). That being said, it all depends on the school and how many tryout and how many are high level club players.
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Post by 04gparent on Feb 13, 2018 11:53:52 GMT -5
HS is not club. Athena B and higher should make varsity as Freshmen unless you are at one of the powerhouse schools Strikermom is talking about. We had Classic 3 boy make our little old HS Varsity team as a Freshman (along with the expected Classic 1 players). That being said, it all depends on the school and how many tryout and how many are high level club players. Thanks everyone for your responses... I appreciate your feedback...
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Post by soccerparent02 on Feb 13, 2018 20:04:57 GMT -5
3 ECNL 02s 1 RPL player made varsity freshman year including my son.
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Post by spectator on Feb 14, 2018 0:00:09 GMT -5
One freshman ECNL player made varsity this year and has gotten playing time in one game so far but three of her teammates on that same ECNL club made JV. One quit in a huff - the other two are playing and seem to be enjoying it.
I suppose our high school team is probably a 'powerhouse' - or close to it - but the politics of the rosters varies from year to year. My daughter's freshman year, the coach didn't take any freshman on varsity until a couple of moms threw fits and their kids practiced with Varsity but never played a minute the entire season - let me repeat - NOT. ONE. MINUTE. Their daughters sat the bench for three months, meanwhile the other ECNL and SRPL girls who did play JV played every game and are now the starters on Varsity as seniors after doing their time on JV. Only one of the girls who were on the Varsity roster as freshmen from that year is still playing at all. Just putting that out there for the freshmen parents who get that hung up on their kid being on Varsity versus JV. A 14 year old and an 18 year old are different animals - especially on the boys side but also for girls too.
My point - high school ain't club - and unless you are all that and the bag of chips on the field as a 14 year old, no, you don't belong with the seniors and juniors on Varsity. The whole "Freshmen on Varsity' thing is more for parental bragging rights. Trust me, your kid would rather play than sit. If you honestly have the decision to make between ECNL and playing high school and DA - I'd go DA - especially if your kid has aspirations of playing in college. You have to weigh out the risk of injury due to the fact that the high school teams are all over the board and your kid's ultimate goals for after high school. I've never seen a college coach at a high school game and top college coaches prefer their recruits to NOT play high school - especially if they can continue to play DA or ECNL instead.
Don't mind me, though -I truly despise high school soccer. You can put the studs from all metro Atlanta clubs on one team and it still doesn't guarantee you good soccer.
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Post by Keeper on Feb 14, 2018 0:22:53 GMT -5
One freshman ECNL player made varsity this year and has gotten playing time in one game so far but three of her teammates on that same ECNL club made JV. One quit in a huff - the other two are playing and seem to be enjoying it. I suppose our high school team is probably a 'powerhouse' - or close to it - but the politics of the rosters varies from year to year. My daughter's freshman year, the coach didn't take any freshman on varsity until a couple of moms threw fits and their kids practiced with Varsity but never played a minute the entire season - let me repeat - NOT. ONE. MINUTE. Their daughters sat the bench for three months, meanwhile the other ECNL and SRPL girls who did play JV played every game and are now the starters on Varsity as seniors after doing their time on JV. Only one of the girls from that year is still playing at all. Just putting that out there for the freshmen parents who get that hung up on their kid being on Varsity versus JV. A 14 year old and an 18 year old are different animals - especially on the boys side but also for girls too. My point - high school ain't club - and unless you are all that and the bag of chips on the field as a 14 year old, no, you don't belong with the seniors and juniors on Varsity. The whole "Freshmen on Varsity' thing is more for parental bragging rights. Trust me, your kid would rather play than sit. If you honestly have the decision to make between ECNL and playing high school and DA - I'd go DA - especially if your kid has aspirations of playing in college. You have to weigh out the risk of injury due to the fact that the high school teams are all over the board and your kid's ultimate goals for after high school. I've never seen a college coach at a high school game and top college coaches prefer their recruits to NOT play high school - especially if they can continue to play DA or ECNL instead. Don't mind me, though -I truly despise high school soccer. You can put the studs from all metro Atlanta clubs on one team and it still doesn't guarantee you good soccer. Completely agree! “Athena Rec” aka HS Varsity teams are just not worth it for the serious players. Anyone wanting to play college ball should steer clear from these atrocious coaches and injury plagued seasons. Sorry but going 5 days a week for 2+ hours for 15-18 year olds is just asking for injury.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Feb 14, 2018 6:49:36 GMT -5
DA goes 5 days per week. Kids high school team has 3 ECNL players 5 R3pl players plus 3 C1 players who start. 6 have played ODP and 3 have represented Georgia. Not a bad resume for high school modes. By the way, college coaches do come to high school games.
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Post by SoccerMom on Feb 14, 2018 7:09:25 GMT -5
My daughter made Varsity when she was a freshman. Only freshman on the team, she was a starter and played the whole game. Due to DA, the whole team is gone except for 2 juniors. I heard a lot of freshman made the team this year at our school, all club players and levels all across the board.
And I never saw a college coach at any of our HS games.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 14, 2018 9:09:51 GMT -5
Just keep one thing in mind -- there is so much more to high school soccer than soccer.
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Post by infoguy on Feb 14, 2018 10:29:03 GMT -5
I understand the question, and the importance for some to mark on their player resume that he/she made varsity as a freshman. Or, I understand that your question may be more about your concern that he/she plays for a competitive high school team if you forgo DA.
The question should be, in my opinion, does your child want to play for her/his high school? The reason why the question shouldn't be more specific to Varsity vs JV, is because (like many have answered) it depends on the high school whether your kid makes the Varsity right off the bat or not. And if it's a tough or not guaranteed that your child will make Varsity as a freshman, that's a good thing because he/she goes to a school with a good soccer program. I think what's worse is making Varsity at a school with a poor program.
In other words, if he/she attends a large high school and doesn't make Varsity, then odds are the JV should also be competitive. And if it turns out to be JV, your kid will likely be pulled up at the end of the JV season to Varsity (season longer because of playoffs).
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Post by spectator on Feb 14, 2018 15:37:27 GMT -5
By the way, college coaches do come to high school games. Let me clarify - college coaches do not come to high school games to recruit or see a host of players. I've never seen a college coach at our high school games and the coaches we spoke with during my daughter's recruiting process all stated they did not go to high school games nor did they want to see videos of high school play because they know it's not the level they wanted. These were D1 and higher level D2 coaches. Not to say a coach from a college in close proximity to a specific high school may go watch a specific high school prospect, but typically college coaches are fully aware of the varying levels of high school soccer players and it's not worth their time to recruit there.
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Post by SoccerMom on Feb 14, 2018 16:06:08 GMT -5
And to build off what spectator said. College coaches do go to regular season DA games, depending on what you are looking for maybe that helps with your decision. HS soccer is for fun thats it, the level of competition is not very high, its just something to do with your friends.
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Post by 04gparent on Feb 14, 2018 16:21:24 GMT -5
I understand the question, and the importance for some to mark on their player resume that he/she made varsity as a freshman. Or, I understand that your question may be more about your concern that he/she plays for a competitive high school team if you forgo DA. The question should be, in my opinion, does your child want to play for her/his high school? The reason why the question shouldn't be more specific to Varsity vs JV, is because (like many have answered) it depends on the high school whether your kid makes the Varsity right off the bat or not. And if it's a tough or not guaranteed that your child will make Varsity as a freshman, that's a good thing because he/she goes to a school with a good soccer program. I think what's worse is making Varsity at a school with a poor program. In other words, if he/she attends a large high school and doesn't make Varsity, then odds are the JV should also be competitive. And if it turns out to be JV, your kid will likely be pulled up at the end of the JV season to Varsity (season longer because of playoffs). Infoguy, thanks for your perspective. All the feedback is good for us at this point. In my case my daughter at this point thinks she does want to play in highschool and thats great. The question will be when does she start to play high school if DA is an option for her. We will be watching the high school season very closely as everyone observes the DA impact on girls high school this year.
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Post by SoccerMom on Feb 15, 2018 6:25:25 GMT -5
If you play DA, then HS is not an option. There's simply no time even if your club were to allow it, so if you wanna play you have to quit. In my daughter's DA team only 1 girl has said she misses HS soccer but not bad enough to quit either. My daughter told me that even if she could play HS she probably wouldn't do it again.
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