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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 7, 2018 16:48:09 GMT -5
If a kid misses a training session during the week for being sick or school related, should he/she not be a starter or rostered ?
I’m saying this as if it’s an occasional miss of a training session vs a consistent pattern.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Mar 7, 2018 17:00:34 GMT -5
For my teams if its illness, church or a school related activity that's for a grade then no it doesn't impact their playing time or starting role. If its for another activity, sport or social event then yes playing time is adjusted accordingly.
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Post by footy on Mar 7, 2018 17:26:21 GMT -5
What about for college visits? Our team has a lot of juniors (boys) doing unofficial trips.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 7, 2018 20:40:14 GMT -5
Anything other then a scheduled academic related event means they sit the first half of the next game. They know what they’re signing up for at signing day so the only excused absence is education.
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Post by SoccerMom on Mar 7, 2018 20:52:51 GMT -5
For both my kids, if you miss you don't start the next game.
There are exceptions like college visits
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Post by soccerdaddy on Mar 7, 2018 21:58:26 GMT -5
Unfortunately every team I’ve been on the Coach will play the best players no matter if they miss practices or show up late even if it’s not excused. The top team’s best players usually get away with it and may get punished in practice but never games. I think they should be addressed during game time. Staying on the branch more than normally or not starting is a good way to get the message across but you have to treat all equal. Haven’t seen equal treatment between coaches and players on the same team. Sad that a coach would show favoritism to different players, especially outside of games.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Mar 7, 2018 22:32:52 GMT -5
Unfortunately every team I’ve been on the Coach will play the best players no matter if they miss practices or show up late even if it’s not excused. The top team’s best players usually get away with it and may get punished in practice but never games. I think they should be addressed during game time. Staying on the branch more than normally or not starting is a good way to get the message across but you have to treat all equal. Haven’t seen equal treatment between coaches and players on the same team. Sad that a coach would show favoritism to different players, especially outside of games. That doesn't fly on my teams, everyone is held accountable to the same rules, the life lessons are far more impactful than wins/loses. |
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Post by soccerlegacy on Mar 8, 2018 14:29:30 GMT -5
It might be nice to state what level you play or coach at when responding to this...
From my experience, that will sometimes play a factor in how strictly rules are enforced with missing training/practice.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Mar 8, 2018 21:00:52 GMT -5
It might be nice to state what level you play or coach at when responding to this... From my experience, that will sometimes play a factor in how strictly rules are enforced with missing training/practice. It shouldn't matter really, life lessons and teachable moments should apply to all. That's why so many athletes get in trouble repeatedly because people look the other way because they happen to do something really well . For the record its Athena A level, if it was DA or ECNL I would do the exact same thing. |
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Post by soccerlegacy on Mar 9, 2018 11:11:09 GMT -5
It might be nice to state what level you play or coach at when responding to this... From my experience, that will sometimes play a factor in how strictly rules are enforced with missing training/practice. It shouldn't matter really, life lessons and teachable moments should apply to all. That's why so many athletes get in trouble repeatedly because people look the other way because they happen to do something really well . For the record its Athena A level, if it was DA or ECNL I would do the exact same thing. Hey, I understand... and I'm not saying you wouldn't do the same thing, regardless of level... and I agree about the valuable life lessons. I think many of us have our kids involved in sports because of all that you gain beyond what takes place on the field. All I was saying is that there are varying degrees of commitment based on the level of play and therefore I have seen varying degrees of punishment from those levels. Some kids have very active lives outside of soccer and might not make the same commitment as say a DA player. So... my request was to simply state what level are they at, as to what the punishment might be. |
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Post by SoccerMom on Mar 9, 2018 15:15:30 GMT -5
I have one kid in DA and one kid in Academy. Both are held to the same rules if they miss a practice
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Post by soccerlegacy on Mar 9, 2018 15:51:11 GMT -5
I have one kid in DA and one kid in Academy. Both are held to the same rules if they miss a practice As parents, my wife and I believe in our kids living up to their commitments. We as parents, are responsible for holding our own kids to that commitment and make every effort to make all team functions (games, practices, meetings, etc). Our only excused absence from these would be for illness or if their grades are suffering (school comes first). I have 3 kids playing in Athena A, DA, and Academy, and in the past 3 years, we have missed a total of approx. 6 practices between them. In those missed practices, I have only had one coach punish with playing time. Most of the coaches understood our family's commitment (because the kids didn't get to all those practices driving themselves..  ) and were accepting of the atypical absence. |
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Post by youthsoccerdad on Mar 10, 2018 22:57:25 GMT -5
If a kid misses a training session during the week for being sick or school related, should he/she not be a starter or rostered ? I’m saying this as if it’s an occasional miss of a training session vs a consistent pattern. For an occasional miss there shouldn't be a penalty, if the parents do their part and give the coach a heads up and have a legitimate excuse. For pretty much everyone on this board we are talking about kids from the ages of 6-18 years old, irrespective of whether they play rec, academy, or DA. Do my kids miss occasionally? Sure do. Sometimes they get sick, sometimes there are school functions, sometimes we can't figure out logistics, and sometimes we decide to take a vacation as a family. For the most part I take the commitment seriously and genuinely feel bad when they miss, but I also balance all of this with the fact they are kids who are most likely not going pro. Frankly, I don't think they are that much different than a coach that occasionally misses a game or practice. Are coaches punished, put on a performance warning, pay reduced, etc.? Probably not, because unless it is a pattern there is probably a good reason they missed called life. And generally speaking, in whether it is a player or a coach there are enough people to back up everyone. |
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Post by Keeper on Mar 11, 2018 12:28:40 GMT -5
If a kid misses a training session during the week for being sick or school related, should he/she not be a starter or rostered ? I’m saying this as if it’s an occasional miss of a training session vs a consistent pattern. For an occasional miss there shouldn't be a penalty, if the parents do their part and give the coach a heads up and have a legitimate excuse. For pretty much everyone on this board we are talking about kids from the ages of 6-18 years old, irrespective of whether they play rec, academy, or DA. Do my kids miss occasionally? Sure do. Sometimes they get sick, sometimes there are school functions, sometimes we can't figure out logistics, and sometimes we decide to take a vacation as a family. For the most part I take the commitment seriously and genuinely feel bad when they miss, but I also balance all of this with the fact they are kids who are most likely not going pro. Frankly, I don't think they are that much different than a coach that occasionally misses a game or practice. Are coaches punished, put on a performance warning, pay reduced, etc.? Probably not, because unless it is a pattern there is probably a good reason they missed called life. And generally speaking, in whether it is a player or a coach there are enough people to back up everyone. Just FYI as a coach if I miss a session I have to either make it up or I’ll be docked a certain amount from my check depending on the team and how often it’s happened. And just because they’re kids? Well it’s not fair to the other players who are there at practice. Why should a teammate get more playing time or start if they haven’t been to practice but you have. That’s just accountability. |
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Post by youthsoccerdad on Mar 11, 2018 18:52:57 GMT -5
For an occasional miss there shouldn't be a penalty, if the parents do their part and give the coach a heads up and have a legitimate excuse. For pretty much everyone on this board we are talking about kids from the ages of 6-18 years old, irrespective of whether they play rec, academy, or DA. Do my kids miss occasionally? Sure do. Sometimes they get sick, sometimes there are school functions, sometimes we can't figure out logistics, and sometimes we decide to take a vacation as a family. For the most part I take the commitment seriously and genuinely feel bad when they miss, but I also balance all of this with the fact they are kids who are most likely not going pro. Frankly, I don't think they are that much different than a coach that occasionally misses a game or practice. Are coaches punished, put on a performance warning, pay reduced, etc.? Probably not, because unless it is a pattern there is probably a good reason they missed called life. And generally speaking, in whether it is a player or a coach there are enough people to back up everyone. Just FYI as a coach if I miss a session I have to either make it up or I’ll be docked a certain amount from my check depending on the team and how often it’s happened. And just because they’re kids? Well it’s not fair to the other players who are there at practice. Why should a teammate get more playing time or start if they haven’t been to practice but you have. That’s just accountability. You are relating yourself to most likely a kid who has probably has zero control over where they are on any given night. As an adult that gets paid to be there, that is good there is some sort of accountability. But I am sure that while you strive to keep your commitments sometimes things come up. So while you might judge a kid harshly I wouldn't judge you unless it happened frequently or there was a pattern - so long as you had good communication with the parents and did your best to have an alternative. |
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Post by Keeper on Mar 11, 2018 21:46:02 GMT -5
Commitments are commitments. If this is a rec, pay to play kid that’s one thing but these are Select players who know what they are signing up for. That’s like teaching kids oh it’s okay to miss class, we will just move the test back because you have other commitments that were more important. Great lesson for the youth of our already F’ed up nation...
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Post by footy on Mar 12, 2018 7:00:09 GMT -5
I think as long as a coach is fair across the entire team, that's what counts.
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) and were accepting of the atypical absence.
