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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 9, 2018 10:28:34 GMT -5
I haven't heard the score of Concorde's Sunday game, but brutal weekend for the local u15s boy DA sides. Saturday April 7 Kendall 3 - Concorde 0 Weston 2 - Atl United 0 Sunday April 8 Weston 2 vs Concorde 1 (edited! Thanks! cantgetright) Kendall 3 - Atl United 1 Chargers 2 - UFA 0 Right now its Florida, North Carolina, then Georgia. UFA's 15s seem to still be struggling and sit way down 3rd from the bottom. Atlanta Uniteds 15 have all the talent in the world, still a shock to me to see them sitting middle of the table. Team is loaded with talent, size and speed and a national team keeper. Team struggled last spring, will be interesting to see how they close out the season.
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Post by cantgetright on Apr 9, 2018 11:11:25 GMT -5
Weston 2 CF 1. Weston scored 2 goals late. CF gave the game away.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 9, 2018 21:03:39 GMT -5
This is the age group that will mostly be on the sidelines next year, since the age groups double up after the standalone groups of U12, U13, U14, and U15. I have not seen much of these age groups, but are they playing as a team or as individuals(in tryouts mode/mindset)? Also this year AU experimented with having a standing "U16" team, to train and keep working on the AU model so that next year when most moved to U16/17 team they wouldn't have to re-invent the wheel. Well, word is AU does not feel the experiment was worthy and will NOT be repeating next year, but decision has not ben finalized.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 9, 2018 21:10:07 GMT -5
I haven't heard the score of Concorde's Sunday game, but brutal weekend for the local u15s boy DA sides. Saturday April 7 Kendall 3 - Concorde 0 Weston 2 - Atl United 0 Sunday April 8 Weston 2 vs Concorde 1 (edited! Thanks! cantgetright ) Kendall 3 - Atl United 1 Chargers 2 - UFA 0 From what I hear, AU already has 3 from Weston in the bag, looking to find them and their families hosts and/or jobs. I believe at least 2 are in the Nat'l Team pool. There is also the potential of 2 more who are currently contemplating making the move.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 21:19:03 GMT -5
Interesting about the current separate 02 team since it looked like a handful ended up DPing throughout the year and one ended up starting a few games even at the Gen Adidas tourney.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 21:20:41 GMT -5
I haven't heard the score of Concorde's Sunday game, but brutal weekend for the local u15s boy DA sides. Saturday April 7 Kendall 3 - Concorde 0 Weston 2 - Atl United 0 Sunday April 8 Weston 2 vs Concorde 1 (edited! Thanks! cantgetright ) Kendall 3 - Atl United 1 Chargers 2 - UFA 0 From what I hear, AU already has 3 from Weston in the bag, looking to find them and their families hosts and/or jobs. I believe at least 2 are in the Nat'l Team pool. There is also the potential of 2 more who are currently contemplating making the move. Yea there are a few Weston boys that’s have been on almost every camp for national team pool.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 21:45:26 GMT -5
I’d question why they even have below u15 if there just going to “buy” youth players from around the country vs develop players.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 10, 2018 4:41:45 GMT -5
I get and agree with your sentiments, however, lets not forget this is a pro-team as opposed to a local club. Their mandate is much different from a UFA/CF etc. Plus you as a player interested in going pro, you see this as an opportunity to reap the benefits of some of the perks that come with being at a Pro Soccer Club.
Take for example this week, AU is hosting the coaches/directors coaching courses. So you have the opportunity as a player to get to be seen and trained by a representative DA coach/director from every MLS club in the country and oh yeah the French Football Federation coaches are here including the UEFA championship National Team Coach. They get to scout you, you get training at an even higher level and just the environment. Those are all hard carrots to ignore.
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Post by rifle on Apr 10, 2018 7:34:44 GMT -5
I would guess that a team that does not yet exist, has no territory rights. At some point I expect David Beckham to lose interest and try to sell his MLS option.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 10, 2018 8:05:20 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 9:07:39 GMT -5
I get and agree with your sentiments, however, lets not forget this is a pro-team as opposed to a local club. Their mandate is much different from a UFA/CF etc. Plus you as a player interested in going pro, you see this as an opportunity to reap the benefits of some of the perks that come with being at a Pro Soccer Club. Take for example this week, AU is hosting the coaches/directors coaching courses. So you have the opportunity as a player to get to be seen and trained by a representative DA coach/director from every MLS club in the country and oh yeah the French Football Federation coaches are here including the UEFA championship National Team Coach. They get to scout you, you get training at an even higher level and just the environment. Those are all hard carrots to ignore. exactly -- the pro club with players from all over the south lost by combined scored 5-1 to teams from Florida. I know they don't care about wins/results, but TA was on the radio last summer talking about how excited he was for this u15 team, so he started the hype machine. Something doesn't make sense. I know a stud got hurt, a total stud, maybe the best player on the team, but you know what they say, next man up -- they have players stockpiled, no excuse in my book to be under performing this year with a team loaded with talent regardless if wins don't matter. Team on paper is better than 11-8-8. With only 2 wins this spring so far nothing stellar. Again, yes I know wins don't me crap, even at u15 when their is no playoff format -- but there is a thing called competition, and the mid set and attitude when you step on the field that the great ones refuse to lose etc. The hating to lose mentality, the hunger to make all 18 players better -- playing for the guy next to ya. Maybe that's what's missing, these kids think they've already made it vs the attitude of the hard work as just begun -- either way, the team should bury its opposition, week in and week out given the resources it has at its fingertips -- and I include players when I talk about resources. I tell ya right now Dixon wouldn't be 11-8-8 with this team.
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Post by gaprospects on Apr 10, 2018 9:15:41 GMT -5
I guess Weston is not within another MLS club’s nebulous recruiting area? Isn’t Miami in the pipeline to get a franchise? It is my understanding that MLS clubs can’t recruit out of another club’s area, so no club is “buying players” from all over the country. Probably a good and bad rule: keeps the homegrown thing alive but bad for a kid that might fit elsewhere. Miami is not in an area. As far as I know there is know known published map of the areas, at least since they added more teams. But there are Miami kids in academies in Orlando, Atlanta, Columbus, NY, Portland, etc. so just intuitively, they're probably not incorporated.
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Post by newposter on Apr 15, 2018 10:14:02 GMT -5
I think on any given day RPL, ECNL teams could beat or at least provide a challenge to most teams including AU IMO. DA doesn't guarantee they are the best team or have the best players.
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Post by allthingsoccer on Apr 15, 2018 10:16:54 GMT -5
They are for sure struggling. Lots of issues with that age group and lots of 04s playing up on that team as well. Kind of hurting the U14 team but good for some kids getting to play up and more play time.
I guess it would be a great opportunity if you are U13/U14/U15 player in the area. Lots of shifting will go on for next year. What do you think, 20-25 new players for those age groups?
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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 15, 2018 10:26:14 GMT -5
HA! I honestly don't expect much opportunities for kids in this area, I expect opportunities for kids outside this area!
I agree 100% with ya, it really hurts the younger sides -- the shifting of kids playing up etc. Its unfortunately the reality of a MLS DA side --- it ain't about the team, it's about the individual. Which kind of sucks for a team sport. Might as well go play tennis, golf or competitive chess or checkers. I don't care how nasty you are on the ball, or how gigantic or fast you might be, if you can't play with a team and make a team better, you ain't going to make it. You won't even make it on a highschool side, kids don't want selfish ME first teammates. (great use of ain't's this morning...)
I also think we will see USL become the older age group of DA as more and more MLS sides play their u19 players on USL teams.
Edit - looks like the 15s tied today and another hat trick for Jackson Conway
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 15, 2018 15:34:44 GMT -5
They are for sure struggling. Lots of issues with that age group and lots of 04s playing up on that team as well. Kind of hurting the U14 team but good for some kids getting to play up and more play time. I guess it would be a great opportunity if you are U13/U14/U15 player in the area. Lots of shifting will go on for next year. What do you think, 20-25 new players for those age groups? Like Allthingsoccer stated, this group is just plain struggling in all facets of the game. This is the same group that had issues last year as U13s. I know it is hard for outsiders to feel empathy for this group of boys considering they are at AU and I can totally understand that. But they have been decimated by injuries, bad behavior leading to suspensions/dismissals and such a hodgepodge of players changing the face of the team week to week. They have brought in a bevvy of U14 to fill in the gaps mostly to no avail. Many of these boys will not be on hand next year due to the natural attrition of U16s and U17s being part of one team. Beginning of the season, AU had every intention of keeping a standing Non-DA U16 team, but once this motley crew was up, they have now changed their mind. I personally think it's an opportunity to purge the team and bring back the true studs. This is one to watch.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 16:11:53 GMT -5
Agree tough unlucky season - but gives ya less faith in our countries identification process than because this team has a combined 8 kids identified at some point for a youth national team playing this weekend.
A team with 8 of the best 03s or 04s in the country should hold their own against a couple of lower level average DA squads.
Even with injuries - that’s a luxury of riches especially when one is a keeper.
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Post by soccerdaddy on Apr 15, 2018 18:15:34 GMT -5
Agree tough unlucky season - but gives ya less faith in our countries identification process than because this team has a combined 8 kids identified at some point for a youth national team playing this weekend. A team with 8 of the best 03s or 04s in the country should hold their own against a couple of lower level average DA squads. Even with injuries - that’s a luxury of riches especially when one is a keeper. [brI haven’t seen any “lower level average DA squads” at U15, which clubs?
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Post by xyz on Apr 16, 2018 8:16:48 GMT -5
They are for sure struggling. Lots of issues with that age group and lots of 04s playing up on that team as well. Kind of hurting the U14 team but good for some kids getting to play up and more play time. I guess it would be a great opportunity if you are U13/U14/U15 player in the area. Lots of shifting will go on for next year. What do you think, 20-25 new players for those age groups? Like Allthingsoccer stated, this group is just plain struggling in all facets of the game. This is the same group that had issues last year as U13s. I know it is hard for outsiders to feel empathy for this group of boys considering they are at AU and I can totally understand that. But they have been decimated by injuries, bad behavior leading to suspensions/dismissals and such a hodgepodge of players changing the face of the team week to week. They have brought in a bevvy of U14 to fill in the gaps mostly to no avail. Many of these boys will not be on hand next year due to the natural attrition of U16s and U17s being part of one team. Beginning of the season, AU had every intention of keeping a standing Non-DA U16 team, but once this motley crew was up, they have now changed their mind. I personally think it's an opportunity to purge the team and bring back the true studs. This is one to watch.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 23, 2018 21:21:38 GMT -5
Parent/Player meetings with TA himself scheduled for this Wednesday evening. He is scheduled to meet with the current U14s and U15s. Will keep you posted as to any developments. Also the current U12s and u13s have had boys from Memphis TN, California and Germany, along with current AFC Lightning and Ambush players "practicing" with the current teams. Finally, overtures are being made to some of the boys from the NC/FL teams about the potential of making the move the to the 5 Stripes. And so the tryout season begins.
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Post by SoccerMom on May 5, 2018 13:43:47 GMT -5
Anyone look at latest u15 standings. Ouch. 5th 8th and 14th There are probably 4 clubs in Atlanta that have teams better than UFAs u15s. That team is having a terrible year. They inherited a slightly above average Georgia united team and are 2’nd from the bottom. Only IMG is below them - who is a joke. Has to go down down as one of the worst local DA years on record. Love to here what the excuse is with this team, because we know someone has one. Still would give Atlanta united the winner for a more disappointing season though - given the TA hype before the year and the talent on that roster. Team is loaded will men. I don’t care about injuries and suspensions. I’ve seen that team play and they are still loaded. Is the coach worth a crap? Most coaches go their entire careers and never coach a youth national team player. They have what 6 at one point. It either points to one of 2 things - Either the US scouting system is complete garbage Or Either their current coach ain’t any good. And I’ve watch both teams play, UFA has made zero adjustments on the weekend to get better. It’s the same lineup and the same positions for the most part. If I coached that team - in November I would have made them remove all ufa gear and earn the right to get it back. Every single players postions would be on the line. Same ole story with that team, kid can play like trash for months and never come out of the game or try him at a different spot. You're always here trashing UFA DA boys team,and the other day the fields. I don't see your CF team at the #1 spot either. Just remember, you're talking about kids here not professional players.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 5, 2018 15:37:01 GMT -5
Anyone look at latest u15 standings. Ouch. 5th 8th and 14th There are probably 4 clubs in Atlanta that have teams better than UFAs u15s. That team is having a terrible year. They inherited a slightly above average Georgia united team and are 2’nd from the bottom. Only IMG is below them - who is a joke. Has to go down down as one of the worst local DA years on record. Love to here what the excuse is with this team, because we know someone has one. And I’ve watch both teams play, UFA has made zero adjustments on the weekend to get better. It’s the same lineup and the same positions for the most part. If I coached that team - in November I would have made them remove all ufa gear and earn the right to get it back. Every single players postions would be on the line. Same ole story with that team, kid can play like trash for months and never come out of the game or try him at a different spot. guerillaman, first off glad you're not the one coaching. Secondly, we have kids at AU/UFA and sadly CF also. So with that in mind, let's start with the fact that it seems you forget that you're still talking about kids here. Big kids, true, but yes still kids. They are not professionals, but young boys still looking to find their way in life. Most can't drive yet or balance a checkbook. The bias dripping from your words are so evident that it seeps through your post. This is a developmental league. They are not qualifying for a playoff spot or post season play. At best a few are trying to make the Nat'l Team, while most are trying to get recruited to play in college. I think you should chillax and come to terms with the fact that maybe your kid wasn't good enough to be taken at AU/UFA. If he's at CF then that is a good alternative because we all know the BOOOM ball taught and played at CF is known for developing players. You seem to be focused on the salient point of stats. So here is a stat or two for you. In three games so far this season against AU, I believe CF hasn't won a single game and has maybe found the back of the net once. Seriously??? Anyway, it's Cinco de Mayo. Have a Margarita and a Tequila Shot and enjoy the 5 Stripes Game today. I'll be at Smith's Old Bar, stop by and have a drink on me to wash away the sorrow and the dream of your lad wearing the 5 Stripes BTW: Kickoff is at 8:30pm
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Post by welovesoccer on May 5, 2018 15:52:35 GMT -5
I read it the opposite - I read it as an indictment on the coaching staff vs a slant at the players. Any coach in this area should be able to pick a top team at one of these mega clubs and be successful. And I know many on that UFA side and its been a frustrating season for sure from what I gather.
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 5, 2018 16:53:48 GMT -5
I read it the opposite - I read it as an indictment on the coaching staff vs a slant at the players. Any coach in this area should be able to pick a top team at one of these mega clubs and be successful. And I know many on that UFA side and its been a frustrating season for sure from what I gather. Fact is that all of the DA teams have resources and a large network of players to chose from. Maybe it is a coaching problem. Maybe it is an identification problem. Maybe they are just kids. When I watch pro games on TV in premier league, bundesliga, la liga etc I always hear announcers excuse inconsistency in performance or effort on "youth " and "inexperience". They also have awards for "best young players". I suppose this is because even in the pros they realize maturity helps with performance, confidence, consistency and resilience.
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Post by soccerdaddy on May 5, 2018 22:33:52 GMT -5
This is what I am seeing in games and in Showcase tournaments for U14/13 DA. I haven’t seen many games at U15 but the trend I’m seeing with great players on a team are not executing as a unit or complete team effort. Everyone agrees there is a lot of talented kids no question, but the teams that thrive are the ones with Coaches that have the players in check! These DA boys are young and hungry. They are used to being the go to player from years before. Now, the adjustments to play with a team full of go to players is promoting the wrong inner competition against fellow players. Quite frankly, games are lacking synergy with the team. Stars are trying to be the hero every chance they get but actually hurt the team’s chances trying to impress the coaches and scouts. So, my overall observation is that the teams that are winning are the ones that Coaches have complete control over their players. The coaches that keep relying on the same stars to play 100% of the game in the same position and take every free kick or penalty kick or corner kick are the teams that are coming up short because they can’t keep doing it every game and trying to force great plays often leads into teams not playing with synergy. My opinion but others may have a better reason as to why they are struggling. Injuries play a huge piece but so does the coach in getting the players on the same page. Sometimes players just don’t want to play well with others.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 6, 2018 3:31:02 GMT -5
soccerdaddy you hit the nail on the head. I too concur fully with your assessment. Even at the highest level of DA play, there are still varying levels of skills with each player. There are also varying goals and agendas from parents who feel no one is as good as their child to others who feel a particular coach or his style of coaching is not apropos for the player, team, club etc.
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 6, 2018 16:28:33 GMT -5
Wow - impressive showing for Concordes older teams u14+
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 6, 2018 21:29:35 GMT -5
@soccerhouse it was an impressive showing for CF. On this trip down to Georgia Soccer Park, I opted to watch more of the older teams. One thing that was evident across the board was CF brought it against AU. They wanted it more. From what I've been told the coaches for the U14, U15 and U17 AU teams alluded to or outright said - CF wanted this win/tie/game more than the AU players. I don't know if CF is in tryout mode or some have already been recruited or are trying to show what they are capable of. The only CF team that was a wee bit disappointing were the U3s. I thought after the last meeting a few weeks ago where AU won 2-1, that this game would be a lot more competitive. The AU U13s did not play well as a team. A lot of the goals were breakaways by better individual players that resulted in goals.
Also have to acknowledge the UFA U13s beating both ISL FC and CF this weekend. This is a decimated team, glad to see them finally realizing some of their capabilities.
What was not lost on me was the backdrop of the AU vs CF boys fixtures. CF vs UFA GDA fixtures. I remember turning to my siblings and saying little do many know that this will likely be the last time we see the CF GDA play. All in all a great weekend of soccer on the girls and boys side. I root for good matchups on the local scene. It breeds better teams, better players and an overall true development culture. That in my mind will always benefit the community.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 7, 2018 10:56:16 GMT -5
GameOfThrow-ins, absolutely love your assessment. Unlike you I was not lucky enough to watch the U13s full game(caught most of the second half). From the dozen or so games I've watched of this team, I concur that they could possibly be one of the best U13 teams in the country. Nope I've not seen all the teams but you can see the talent level. I still believe their strength lies in their backline or back 6(added GK, and #6). I especially love watching both the outside backs pace up and down the line with as much an opportunity to score or deliver great crosses or passes for goals. Case in point I believe one of them delivered the cross for the sweet Bicycle kick that went viral nationwide(#2 on the Sportscenter Top 10 plays) Just when you think the wing backs are neutralized, here come the tall center backs to add height and heads on set pieces. Their only real issue is in the midfield. They have some dynamic yet small players who sometimes hold on to the ball a wee bit long since they may not have the leg strength yet to switch field positions. Also, if you have a team willing to challenge them physically, they tend to lose the ball. I believe by U15 when they've hit their growth spurt they can create magic and in turn The Beautiful Game. Definitely the team to watch.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 8, 2018 21:22:35 GMT -5
Slightly associated topic is with the U13(2005) NTC List that came out last night. Bad eyes but I think approximately 20 boys, 4 of the Big 5 represented, with I believe 1 from AFC and 2 from AFU. What surprised me was there wasn't a single AU U13(2005) player on that list. This is especially intriguing considering GameOfThrow-ins and I both watched that team and I'm telling you AU has something special with that team. Wonder what they are going to do when they find out none are on that list. Will that motivate them to really open up on the remaining teams they play now? From my experience the NTC selections are a joke, it encompasses the whole model of everyone gets a trophy. But not 1 player is bananas.
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