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Post by petrcechitout on May 1, 2018 20:27:20 GMT -5
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Post by soccermaxx72 on May 1, 2018 20:34:29 GMT -5
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Post by sharks82 on May 1, 2018 20:40:52 GMT -5
In response to the post about LSA. Been told that the alliance with tophat will NOT affect LSA playing in the national league. There are possibly three teams that may be going into this from the club. The u13s who had a solid spring in RPL. The other teams include the u15s and u18s who both had good years in Athena A. If LSA were to have to give up RPL on the girls side I’d be willing to bet this alliance would be called off pretty quick.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 21:10:39 GMT -5
Because they typically field an A/I team that would hit a glass ceiling if they were to win that division. There's nowhere to go but to return at the top of the A/I and compete for state cup. Whereas any smaller clubs with A/I top teams could move up to NL Piedmont. There really is a question of how the LSA 05 team which will be wearing the Tophat patch this fall would go. Are they LSA or are they NTH? NTH uniform suggests NTH. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 21:12:28 GMT -5
And therein lies my confusion because AFU will be in the Piedmont if they finish high.
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 2, 2018 0:07:31 GMT -5
AFU is out of NL/RPL
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 7:13:06 GMT -5
All I can say is stay tuned.................
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Post by soccerballz on May 2, 2018 7:32:37 GMT -5
When all the real news starts to come out and is officially posted somewhere(not last years data). Can we create a thread(Just the Facts 18/19). Without any rumors or opinions. Then everyone can go there, get informed and make the best decisions for their child. Moderator needed.
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Post by sportsdad on May 2, 2018 7:44:48 GMT -5
I'm still trying to get the full picture, so please help me clarify: 1. The big 5 can and will still play Athena/Classic with their teams that are not DA/ECNL/NPL/SCCL 2. Those same Athena/Classic teams can play in State Cup 3. If they win State Cup, they will not be promoted because they can't play RPL Are any or all those statements correct? As it stands right now, all your statements are correct. So can anyone break this down to those of us whose kids are not in the top 1 or 2 teams at their clubs AND in one the the 5 clubs forming this new association? What positives are there for a player wanting to further develop, to be at a Big 5 club, and not on the 1st or 2nd team? What negatives are there for a player wanting to develop, to be at a Big 5 club, and not on the 1st or 2nd team? Is going to a smaller club a better option if you are currently at a Big 5 club and your child is not on the 1st or 2nd team? Thanks |
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 2, 2018 9:03:56 GMT -5
As it stands right now, all your statements are correct. So can anyone break this down to those of us whose kids are not in the top 1 or 2 teams at their clubs AND in one the the 5 clubs forming this new association? What positives are there for a player wanting to further develop, to be at a Big 5 club, and not on the 1st or 2nd team? What negatives are there for a player wanting to develop, to be at a Big 5 club, and not on the 1st or 2nd team? Is going to a smaller club a better option if you are currently at a Big 5 club and your child is not on the 1st or 2nd team? Thanks #3 State Cup is no longer a qualifier for NL/RPL. Any team, regardless of Big 5 or non-Big 5 club, that wins State Cup will not qualify for NL/RPL via that method. Qualifying is now based solely on league play and not being disqualified as an out of compliance club. If your team is at one of the Big 5 clubs then you need to ask club management how your team gets promoted to the SCCL, Champions League. |
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 2, 2018 9:31:21 GMT -5
So can anyone break this down to those of us whose kids are not in the top 1 or 2 teams at their clubs AND in one the the 5 clubs forming this new association? What positives are there for a player wanting to further develop, to be at a Big 5 club, and not on the 1st or 2nd team? What negatives are there for a player wanting to develop, to be at a Big 5 club, and not on the 1st or 2nd team? Is going to a smaller club a better option if you are currently at a Big 5 club and your child is not on the 1st or 2nd team? Thanks #3 State Cup is no longer a qualifier for NL/RPL. Any team, regardless of Big 5 or non-Big 5 club, that wins State Cup will not qualify for NL/RPL via that method. Qualifying is now based solely on league play and not being disqualified as an out of compliance club. If your team is at one of the Big 5 clubs then you need to ask club management how your team gets promoted to the SCCL, Champions League. Oh... I didn't know that winning State Cup wouldn't qualify you for promotion to NL/RPL even if you are not a big 5. So what your saying is that its based solely off of your end-of-season ranking? i.e. If you are 1st or 2nd in Athena/Classic, then you qualify? |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 2, 2018 10:11:48 GMT -5
When all the real news starts to come out and is officially posted somewhere(not last years data). Can we create a thread(Just the Facts 18/19). Without any rumors or opinions. Then everyone can go there, get informed and make the best decisions for their child. Moderator needed. I think soccerballz makes a great point. Until ink meets paper or the clubs officially announce, nothing is etched in stone and it's all innuendo and guesswork. I second the motion to create a thread exclusively for verifiable facts   |
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 2, 2018 10:33:11 GMT -5
soccerlegacyIt’s still normal rules for pre-qualified teams from previous RPL season minus teams from clubs that are disqualified and then your finish in Classic/Athena. RPL itself is now part of NL, National League, though the original structure of First Division and Premier Division still exists and still includes ability to qualify into the tournament series of National League. I would expect returning top level National League teams to include CFA 03B, Georgia Rush 04G, PPA 04B, and PPA 01B. UFA and SSA both had National League teams but they lost every match and did not requalify, and they are clubs that do not meet requirements for participating in National League. Their teams will compete instead in US Club’s NPL moving forward which is good because NPL competition is a much lower level and easier for them.
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 2, 2018 10:49:37 GMT -5
League quality comparison.
UFA 03G Premier in US Youth NL: 0-5-2
UFA 03G Premier in US Club NPL: 3-4-0
UFA 02G Premier in US Youth NL: 0-6-1
UFA 02G Premier in US Club NPL: 6-0-1
UFA 01G Premier in US Youth NL: 0-6-1
UFA 01G Premier in US Club NPL: 4-1-1
SSA 00G Elite in US Youth NL: 0-5-2
SSA 00G Elite in US Club NPL: 6-1-1
US Club NPL is clearly a lower level but also appears to be the right level for the Big 5, at least if you like easy leagues.
Can’t beat them, then start your own league.
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Post by infoguy on May 2, 2018 11:15:57 GMT -5
League quality comparison. UFA 03G Premier in US Youth NL: 0-5-2 UFA 03G Premier in US Club NPL: 3-4-0 UFA 02G Premier in US Youth NL: 0-6-1 UFA 02G Premier in US Club NPL: 6-0-1 UFA 01G Premier in US Youth NL: 0-6-1 UFA 01G Premier in US Club NPL: 4-1-1 SSA 00G Elite in US Youth NL: 0-5-2 SSA 00G Elite in US Club NPL: 6-1-1 US Club NPL is clearly a lower level but also appears to be the right level for the Big 5, at least if you like easy leagues. Can’t beat them, then start your own league. Interesting, subjective conclusion. How about that SRPL was poorly run? Too bad about NL record for SSA and UFA, but it was probably run well. |
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 2, 2018 11:38:04 GMT -5
National League has never been poorly run. And no those were not subjective game results.
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 2, 2018 11:39:40 GMT -5
Reality is the 5 are creating this new league because these teams are very weak
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 11:42:44 GMT -5
Reality is the 5 are creating this new league because these teams are very weak |
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Post by atv on May 2, 2018 11:42:58 GMT -5
Is betonsoccer and gasoccer411 the same person? Just asking ...
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 11:43:16 GMT -5
AFU is not out of the Piedmont Region/NL......................period.
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Post by petrcechitout on May 2, 2018 11:48:02 GMT -5
It depends on which teams are defined as very week. There are Clubs were the 4th Teams beats the 3rd Team when they play and I have seen some ECNL teams that are just as good as their DA team. The difference would be over a season and not just one game.
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Post by betonsoccer on May 2, 2018 11:55:38 GMT -5
Is betonsoccer and gasoccer411 the same person? Just asking ... I liked some of @gasoccer411 earlier posts, but I only have one account, but thanks for asking. I stopped having a dog in the fight when it was determined that I was wrong about UFA pulling all teams out of Georgia Soccer. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 2, 2018 11:59:04 GMT -5
Is betonsoccer and gasoccer411 the same person? Just asking ... I liked some of @gasoccer411 earlier posts, but I only have one account, but thanks for asking. I stopped having a dog in the fight when it was determined that I was wrong about UFA pulling all teams out of Georgia Soccer. I give you a ton of credit for actually posting that you were wrong. That is not easy to do. It is hard to be calm in the midst of turmoil. Good luck next year |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 12:14:23 GMT -5
AFU is NOT kicked out of the new NL. Don't know where some are getting their information. Not true.
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Post by soccermaxx72 on May 2, 2018 12:29:29 GMT -5
AFU can participate in NL, unfortunately their teams are usually weak below ECNL so they don't usually qualify for RPL/NL. If you follow Athena A games, they usually only win games when they pull down ECNL players that don't have a game conflict. With the Big 5 moving out of NL, they will probably start to qualify teams by default.
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 2, 2018 12:36:02 GMT -5
AFU can participate in NL, unfortunately their teams are usually weak below ECNL so they don't usually qualify for RPL/NL. If you follow Athena A games, they usually only win games when they pull down ECNL players that don't have a game conflict. With the Big 5 moving out of NL, they will probably start to qualify teams by default. If AFU signs a contract agreeing to drop out of ECNL then AFU can put qualifying teams into NL/RPL. |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 2, 2018 12:36:19 GMT -5
soccerlegacy It’s still normal rules for pre-qualified teams from previous RPL season minus teams from clubs that are disqualified and then your finish in Classic/Athena. RPL itself is now part of NL, National League, though the original structure of First Division and Premier Division still exists and still includes ability to qualify into the tournament series of National League. I would expect returning top level National League teams to include CFA 03B, Georgia Rush 04G, PPA 04B, and PPA 01B. UFA and SSA both had National League teams but they lost every match and did not requalify, and they are clubs that do not meet requirements for participating in National League. Their teams will compete instead in US Club’s NPL moving forward which is good because NPL competition is a much lower level and easier for them. Shade much??? |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 12:37:49 GMT -5
AFU can participate in NL, unfortunately their teams are usually weak below ECNL so they don't usually qualify for RPL/NL. If you follow Athena A games, they usually only win games when they pull down ECNL players that don't have a game conflict. With the Big 5 moving out of NL, they will probably start to qualify teams by default. If AFU signs a contract agreeing to drop out of ECNL then AFU can put qualifying teams into NL/RPL. |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 12:41:47 GMT -5
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 2, 2018 12:59:15 GMT -5
If AFU signs a contract agreeing to drop out of ECNL then AFU can put qualifying teams into NL/RPL. Honestly speaking, from an outsiders view, I don't see why AFU would sign away their rights to ECNL? Am I missing something? |
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