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Post by thisonedude on Jun 16, 2018 15:24:54 GMT -5
I'd be interested in knowing what DA team (club and age group) cut players on Thursday night after tryouts were over. And what DA team (club and age group) told a player after having an awesome tryout they would start the year as a DP. You're anonymous, so spill the beans ; ) I see your point and for the most part I agree with you. However, as with most things, there is that *** and it goes a little something like this. I try not to bring unnecessary attention on this forum to any kid, unless I'm calling them out for something good or noteworthy. This is especially true when your statement all but shines a light on the kid or folks can "figure it out." I will say it's a club with U15+ age groups in DA. That's a good point. I didn't consider that knowing the club/age might make identifying players possible.
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Post by weekendwarrior03 on Jun 16, 2018 18:32:43 GMT -5
Let me guess GB opened up his fat wallet to get what’s his name back to Concorde? Who are you talking about? I’ll say it. Gotta be Steve Mucelli or Chris Hall? Only two CCD coaches that Afc has that are worth a damn. I did hear the Greek Angelo was leaving Afc for Ccd but that is public. Looks like an early fireworks season already. Afc 03g had this bomb dropped on us last year on July 1st as club registrations finalized and Gavin hit the road back to UC. Maybe it’s a “silence clause” in a coaches contract to have kids locked in when they opt for greener pitches.
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Post by 442player on Jun 16, 2018 18:49:41 GMT -5
Who are you talking about? I’ll say it. Gotta be Steve Mucelli or Chris Hall? Only two CCD coaches that Afc has that are worth a damn. I did hear the Greek Angelo was leaving Afc for Ccd but that is public. Looks like an early fireworks season already. Afc 03g had this bomb dropped on us last year on July 1st as club registrations finalized and Gavin hit the road back to UC. Maybe it’s a “silence clause” in a coaches contract to have kids locked in when they opt for greener pitches. Nope! Anyone find out the truth on why Rakel left?
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Post by weekendwarrior03 on Jun 16, 2018 19:26:23 GMT -5
I’ll say it. Gotta be Steve Mucelli or Chris Hall? Only two CCD coaches that Afc has that are worth a damn. I did hear the Greek Angelo was leaving Afc for Ccd but that is public. Looks like an early fireworks season already. Afc 03g had this bomb dropped on us last year on July 1st as club registrations finalized and Gavin hit the road back to UC. Maybe it’s a “silence clause” in a coaches contract to have kids locked in when they opt for greener pitches. Nope! Anyone find out the truth on why Rakel left? I guess it’s MOBA that is in play then. Rakel did leave mid season but not sure why. Maybe it was the crazy TM that sent her running 😳
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Post by 442player on Jun 16, 2018 19:59:28 GMT -5
Just another long list of lies from the higher ups over there.
My fovaroite myth is things are so bad at afc. But why did moba hire afc coaches!
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Post by 442player on Jun 17, 2018 8:03:32 GMT -5
I’ll say it. Gotta be Steve Mucelli or Chris Hall? Only two CCD coaches that Afc has that are worth a damn. I did hear the Greek Angelo was leaving Afc for Ccd but that is public. Looks like an early fireworks season already. Afc 03g had this bomb dropped on us last year on July 1st as club registrations finalized and Gavin hit the road back to UC. Maybe it’s a “silence clause” in a coaches contract to have kids locked in when they opt for greener pitches. I can't imagine Steve leaving AFC where he's in charge to going back to taking marching orders at Concorde. As for Chris, he seems to really like his teams and his set-up at AFC. I don't get the impression he's interested in changing clubs. Although it's not a secret that he's pursuing college coaching opportunities. If that worked out for him, I imagine it would impact his club work. Nope AFC was honest during tryouts!
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Post by 442player on Jun 17, 2018 8:08:45 GMT -5
The bomb is about to drop and they told you nothing just took your money. Their cheerleaders are going to spin this just like they did when MR screwed RC and her family.
SD and TD need to have a backbone. There’s more to live then your two kids.
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Post by weekendwarrior03 on Jun 17, 2018 8:08:46 GMT -5
I’ll say it. Gotta be Steve Mucelli or Chris Hall? Only two CCD coaches that Afc has that are worth a damn. I did hear the Greek Angelo was leaving Afc for Ccd but that is public. Looks like an early fireworks season already. Afc 03g had this bomb dropped on us last year on July 1st as club registrations finalized and Gavin hit the road back to UC. Maybe it’s a “silence clause” in a coaches contract to have kids locked in when they opt for greener pitches. I can't imagine Steve leaving AFC where he's in charge to going back to taking marching orders at Concorde. As for Chris, he seems to really like his teams and his set-up at AFC. I don't get the impression he's interested in changing clubs. Although it's not a secret that he's pursuing college coaching opportunities. If that worked out for him, I imagine it would impact his club work. Agree with all above. Both are great guys
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Post by soccermomx3 on Jun 18, 2018 12:18:21 GMT -5
I'm curious also. Many of us down here are aware that there are some boys that tried out for the 05 MOBA team are still unaware of which team they made and who their coach would be. I know they are assuming the first team would be coached by Omar, but they are still waiting to hear. No one knows who the second team coach would be yet. If it turns out to be true that Omar is out and MOBA knew before tryouts, it's not going to look good for Rodriquez or Harms.
This all fits well into the original theme of the thread that clubs don't always treat players well during tryouts.
Just remember when the bomb drops soon they knew and didn’t tell anyone. This is how they do business. I’m not naming the person. Just wait and see.
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Post by soccermomx3 on Jun 18, 2018 12:19:09 GMT -5
Just remember when the bomb drops soon they knew and didn’t tell anyone. This is how they do business. I’m not naming the person. Just wait and see. Any hint other than “soon” about when this news will break?
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Post by setpieces on Jun 18, 2018 12:21:36 GMT -5
I'd be interested in knowing what DA team (club and age group) cut players on Thursday night after tryouts were over. And what DA team (club and age group) told a player after having an awesome tryout they would start the year as a DP. You're anonymous, so spill the beans ; ) I see your point and for the most part I agree with you. However, as with most things, there is that *** and it goes a little something like this. I try not to bring unnecessary attention on this forum to any kid, unless I'm calling them out for something good or noteworthy. This is especially true when your statement all but shines a light on the kid or folks can "figure it out." I will say it's a club with U15+ age groups in DA. I agree with FG on keeping the kids out of it. I also heard similar stories of this happening at DA tryouts. It's been discussed before, but to not communicate with players that were playing on your team the entire year is ridiculous to me. This will continue as long as parents, the paying customers, allow it.
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Post by 442player on Jun 18, 2018 13:14:05 GMT -5
I see your point and for the most part I agree with you. However, as with most things, there is that *** and it goes a little something like this. I try not to bring unnecessary attention on this forum to any kid, unless I'm calling them out for something good or noteworthy. This is especially true when your statement all but shines a light on the kid or folks can "figure it out." I will say it's a club with U15+ age groups in DA. I agree with FG on keeping the kids out of it. I also heard similar stories of this happening at DA tryouts. It's been discussed before, but to not communicate with players that were playing on your team the entire year is ridiculous to me. This will continue as long as parents, the paying customers, allow it. What shocks me is parents decide to go to a club that won’t tell them who their coach is going to be. Then they knew the coach they promised was leaving.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 18, 2018 16:36:32 GMT -5
I agree with FG on keeping the kids out of it. I also heard similar stories of this happening at DA tryouts. It's been discussed before, but to not communicate with players that were playing on your team the entire year is ridiculous to me. This will continue as long as parents, the paying customers, allow it. What shocks me is parents decide to go to a club that won’t tell them who their coach is going to be. Then they knew the coach they promised was leaving. So are you going to tell us the story ever? Because I still haven't heard, for sure, the club that promised something and didn't deliver, the age group and gender involved, or the coach.
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Post by thisonedude on Jun 18, 2018 18:07:47 GMT -5
I see your point and for the most part I agree with you. However, as with most things, there is that *** and it goes a little something like this. I try not to bring unnecessary attention on this forum to any kid, unless I'm calling them out for something good or noteworthy. This is especially true when your statement all but shines a light on the kid or folks can "figure it out." I will say it's a club with U15+ age groups in DA. I agree with FG on keeping the kids out of it. I also heard similar stories of this happening at DA tryouts. It's been discussed before, but to not communicate with players that were playing on your team the entire year is ridiculous to me. This will continue as long as parents, the paying customers, allow it. I think the coaches for the boys DA programs were in a bit of a bind this year at the rising U15 level. Seven clubs collapsing into three, with only two having open tryouts created a circumstance ripe for hurt feelings. In my humble opinion, it would have been difficult for a coach to indicate to a player they would make the next year's squad/not make the next year's squad before tryouts when the coaches may not know exactly what players from NASA, SSA, LSA, AFC might show up at tryouts. It sounds like players were notified, for the most part, as early in the tryout process as possible about their standing. Though, some had to wait until the last day (and, I guess afterwards based on the case FG pointed out). Kind of a lose/lose scenario for the coaches: don't tell the kids anything and be viewed as uncommunicative or tell the kids a priori yes/no without full information and be viewed as ignoring what's going on at the tryout and having the roster 90-100% decided making tryouts a sham. I've read both criticisms on this board. I'm just glad I don't have to make these types of decisions. There's some talent out there and I have no idea how the coaches make the fine grained discriminations needed to separate the players into the various tiers. I'll just watch the games and grumble at the refs and opposing parents under my breath. Just elbow me in the ribs if I get too loud.
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Post by 442player on Jun 18, 2018 18:11:37 GMT -5
So are you going to tell us the story ever? Because I still haven't heard, for sure, the club that promised something and didn't deliver, the age group and gender involved, or the coach. I think it's safe to assume that poster is talking about MOBA as that poster seems to always be talking about MOBA. Bit of a one trick pony Sorry I hurt your feelings! The parents are slowly learning / scrambling! As a CF parent I hate seeing kids get screwed.
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Post by southsidesarah on Jun 19, 2018 9:06:24 GMT -5
So are you going to tell us the story ever? Because I still haven't heard, for sure, the club that promised something and didn't deliver, the age group and gender involved, or the coach. I think it's safe to assume that poster is talking about MOBA as that poster seems to always be talking about MOBA. Bit of a one trick pony
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jun 19, 2018 13:54:27 GMT -5
MOBA has always been glitz and glamour and nice turf fields. It was always a money grab. I'm not sure it would have been that way had AFC partnered with them instead of shunning them, but it was game on once that happened.
SSA had some people go over to MOBA (coach and kids), my kid's team even had a few leave for it. Good luck to them. I think that whole organization is shady, and if I had money to bet those kids and parents are going to be mighty disappointed over there long term. I'll be waiting for them back at SSA telling them I told them so, when they decide to leave MOBA to come back here or go somewhere else in a year or two.
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Post by atlsoccer on Jun 19, 2018 14:36:40 GMT -5
I think it's safe to assume that poster is talking about MOBA as that poster seems to always be talking about MOBA. Bit of a one trick pony Sorry I hurt your feelings! The parents are slowly learning / scrambling! As a CF parent I hate seeing kids get screwed. I am not sure you hurt anyone's feelings, it has just been stated that you only supplied rumours that a coach on the south side was leaving and their club is keeping it a secret. Given your other post, we assume you are talking about MOBA and that you do not have a high opinion of them. It doesn't seem like many people do, other than to say they have nice facilities. I also do not quite understand why being a CF parent has any relevance here. I imagine AFC, MOBA, CF, GSA and everyone else hates to see kids get screwed, right? I think someone else mentioned someone named Omar leaving, who people say is a good coach and would likely be a real loss if true.
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Post by atlsoccer on Jun 19, 2018 14:47:27 GMT -5
MOBA has always been glitz and glamour and nice turf fields. It was always a money grab. I'm not sure it would have been that way had AFC partnered with them instead of shunning them, but it was game on once that happened. SSA had some people go over to MOBA (coach and kids), my kid's team even had a few leave for it. Good luck to them. I think that whole organization is shady, and if I had money to bet those kids and parents are going to be mighty disappointed over there long term. I'll be waiting for them back at SSA telling them I told them so, when they decide to leave MOBA to come back here or go somewhere else in a year or two. I just have a few points to make about this post, not that I don't agree with the general principal. - MOBA has to be losing TONS of money. Nearly every soccer club in the Georgia uses county/city fields for free or at least very cheap? MOBA bought and build a multi-million dollar facility, supports a girls and guys team which also lose a money, and is currently only a very small youth club. - I do not know this for sure, but I believe AFC did talk to MOBA about a partnership. I also believe Concorde and SSA did as well. I clearly do not know the terms offered but am fairly confident it happened. Do you know that it did not? - This part may seems like an attack, which it is not meant to be. We all like to point out when we are right. But parents sitting back and waiting to say I told you so is exactly why some people will never admit leaving their previous club was a mistake and may never come back. It a hard thing to swallow for both player and parents, don't you want those players back? If so wouldn't it make more sense to downplay the mistake and welcome them back?
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 19, 2018 15:01:10 GMT -5
MOBA has always been glitz and glamour and nice turf fields. It was always a money grab. I'm not sure it would have been that way had AFC partnered with them instead of shunning them, but it was game on once that happened. SSA had some people go over to MOBA (coach and kids), my kid's team even had a few leave for it. Good luck to them. I think that whole organization is shady, and if I had money to bet those kids and parents are going to be mighty disappointed over there long term. I'll be waiting for them back at SSA telling them I told them so, when they decide to leave MOBA to come back here or go somewhere else in a year or two. I just have a few points to make about this post, not that I don't agree with the general principal. - MOBA has to be losing TONS of money. Nearly every soccer club in the Georgia uses county/city fields for free or at least very cheap? MOBA bought and build a multi-million dollar facility, supports a girls and guys team which also lose a money, and is currently only a very small youth club. - I do not know this for sure, but I believe AFC did talk to MOBA about a partnership. I also believe Concorde and SSA did as well. I clearly do not know the terms offered but am fairly confident it happened. Do you know that it did not? - This part may seems like an attack, which it is not meant to be. We all like to point out when we are right. But parents sitting back and waiting to say I told you so is exactly why some people will never admit leaving their previous club was a mistake and may never come back. It a hard thing to swallow for both player and parents, don't you want those players back? If so wouldn't it make more sense to downplay the mistake and welcome them back? The last part is a very good point. Most parents are just looking for the best place for their kids. It is hard to make decisions about finding the right place. There are good and bad coaches at every club. The club philosophy may not be actually followed by all of the coaches. Parents should not be vindictive about other people leaving and coming back although it can be hard to be magnanimous about it. Just try to remember that they were just trying to help a child.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jun 19, 2018 15:47:15 GMT -5
MOBA has always been glitz and glamour and nice turf fields. It was always a money grab. I'm not sure it would have been that way had AFC partnered with them instead of shunning them, but it was game on once that happened. SSA had some people go over to MOBA (coach and kids), my kid's team even had a few leave for it. Good luck to them. I think that whole organization is shady, and if I had money to bet those kids and parents are going to be mighty disappointed over there long term. I'll be waiting for them back at SSA telling them I told them so, when they decide to leave MOBA to come back here or go somewhere else in a year or two. I just have a few points to make about this post, not that I don't agree with the general principal. - MOBA has to be losing TONS of money. Nearly every soccer club in the Georgia uses county/city fields for free or at least very cheap? MOBA bought and build a multi-million dollar facility, supports a girls and guys team which also lose a money, and is currently only a very small youth club. - I do not know this for sure, but I believe AFC did talk to MOBA about a partnership. I also believe Concorde and SSA did as well. I clearly do not know the terms offered but am fairly confident it happened. Do you know that it did not? - This part may seems like an attack, which it is not meant to be. We all like to point out when we are right. But parents sitting back and waiting to say I told you so is exactly why some people will never admit leaving their previous club was a mistake and may never come back. It a hard thing to swallow for both player and parents, don't you want those players back? If so wouldn't it make more sense to downplay the mistake and welcome them back? We did use their fields for fees at SSA before they turned into a youth program as well. After that, they became the competition and we were not allowed to use their fields anymore. There were some partnership talks that went on, but from what I was told in all instances it was a negotiation that the powers that be at MOBA have the ultimate control of the partnership which did not sit well with CF South, AFC, or SSA. From what I've been told the fact that no one would partner with them in the way they wanted, caused them to expand their youth programs immediately to try to take players away from the southside clubs. There are not many people in CF South, AFC, or SSA that have much love loss for them right now. I think most coaches, parents, etc.... feel like they are being opportunistic to fit their agenda at the cost of the other clubs down there when there is a dilution of talent on that side of Atlanta anyway due to lack of population. The way they have stolen coaches and the majority of those coach's team kids as well the last couple of years has been a little shady also, and I question if there was any illegal recruiting to be honest based on what I saw in our own club this year. Someone mentioned Omar... Omar may be a good coach, but my experience with him at SSA was that he was playing favorites with his team kids by offering private training for a cost and then those that got that private training got more playing time. That is a big no no in most clubs. You can't private train your own team's kids. He was asked to stop doing it, and he did not so he was fired by SSA. Good coach or not, you have to play by the rules. He also was known to cuss at his Academy (U9/U10) aged kids during games which I think is a big no-no as well at least at that age. As far as your last part goes. I question the motivation of some of the parents that left to go there. I feel at least in the SSA kid's that left that some of their mother's were more wanting the glitz and glamour of that organization, say they practice and play in Peachtree City, etc..., and also the delusions that their kid was better than the team they were on when the perception of most of the people was that wasn't the case. Some may have went because it was a better fit for their kids, but I would say over half that left did it for what I said above.
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Post by newtonthisclub on Jun 20, 2018 9:23:52 GMT -5
I just have a few points to make about this post, not that I don't agree with the general principal. - MOBA has to be losing TONS of money. Nearly every soccer club in the Georgia uses county/city fields for free or at least very cheap? MOBA bought and build a multi-million dollar facility, supports a girls and guys team which also lose a money, and is currently only a very small youth club. - I do not know this for sure, but I believe AFC did talk to MOBA about a partnership. I also believe Concorde and SSA did as well. I clearly do not know the terms offered but am fairly confident it happened. Do you know that it did not? - This part may seems like an attack, which it is not meant to be. We all like to point out when we are right. But parents sitting back and waiting to say I told you so is exactly why some people will never admit leaving their previous club was a mistake and may never come back. It a hard thing to swallow for both player and parents, don't you want those players back? If so wouldn't it make more sense to downplay the mistake and welcome them back? We did use their fields for fees at SSA before they turned into a youth program as well. After that, they became the competition and we were not allowed to use their fields anymore. There were some partnership talks that went on, but from what I was told in all instances it was a negotiation that the powers that be at MOBA have the ultimate control of the partnership which did not sit well with CF South, AFC, or SSA. From what I've been told the fact that no one would partner with them in the way they wanted, caused them to expand their youth programs immediately to try to take players away from the southside clubs. There are not many people in CF South, AFC, or SSA that have much love loss for them right now. I think most coaches, parents, etc.... feel like they are being opportunistic to fit their agenda at the cost of the other clubs down there when there is a dilution of talent on that side of Atlanta anyway due to lack of population. The way they have stolen coaches and the majority of those coach's team kids as well the last couple of years has been a little shady also, and I question if there was any illegal recruiting to be honest based on what I saw in our own club this year. Someone mentioned Omar... Omar may be a good coach, but my experience with him at SSA was that he was playing favorites with his team kids by offering private training for a cost and then those that got that private training got more playing time. That is a big no no in most clubs. You can't private train your own team's kids. He was asked to stop doing it, and he did not so he was fired by SSA. Good coach or not, you have to play by the rules. He also was known to cuss at his Academy (U9/U10) aged kids during games which I think is a big no-no as well at least at that age. As far as your last part goes. I question the motivation of some of the parents that left to go there. I feel at least in the SSA kid's that left that some of their mother's were more wanting the glitz and glamour of that organization, say they practice and play in Peachtree City, etc..., and also the delusions that their kid was better than the team they were on when the perception of most of the people was that wasn't the case. Some may have went because it was a better fit for their kids, but I would say over half that left did it for what I said above. Is Omar out?
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 20, 2018 11:16:12 GMT -5
Someone mentioned Omar... Omar may be a good coach, but my experience with him at SSA was that he was playing favorites with his team kids by offering private training for a cost and then those that got that private training got more playing time. That is a big no no in most clubs. You can't private train your own team's kids. Heh, my daughter had a coach that did that. Withheld skills/technical training from the team so that parents could pay him to do it on the side. And the team suffered greatly down the stretch.
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Post by mistergrinch on Jun 22, 2018 9:54:37 GMT -5
Someone mentioned Omar... Omar may be a good coach, but my experience with him at SSA was that he was playing favorites with his team kids by offering private training for a cost and then those that got that private training got more playing time. That is a big no no in most clubs. You can't private train your own team's kids. Heh, my daughter had a coach that did that. Withheld skills/technical training from the team so that parents could pay him to do it on the side. And the team suffered greatly down the stretch. So did we.. my daughter had a coach for 2 seasons like that. Eventually made her want to change clubs to get away from the guy.
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Post by 442player on Jul 16, 2018 14:26:51 GMT -5
Boom
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Post by justaparent on Jul 16, 2018 14:33:23 GMT -5
What he means is that Omar is now the U16 coach for Atlanta United.
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Post by 442player on Jul 16, 2018 15:14:48 GMT -5
Yep. The true story will come out. But cliff notes he didn’t agree with splitting the talent in PTC. He needed the job and it was a chance to coach PDL. They will drop PDL next year.No one likes MR. He has ran off good people. The same butt kissers will defend MOBA just like they did with Roby (any guesses) Good luck to him he deserves the chance. If you get a chance ask him who was his best youth coach and who he still looks up to (not literally)!
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jul 16, 2018 16:15:42 GMT -5
What is PDL? Forgive my ignorance
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Post by soccermomx3 on Jul 16, 2018 16:48:00 GMT -5
Yep. The true story will come out. But cliff notes he didn’t agree with splitting the talent in PTC. He needed the job and it was a chance to coach PDL. They will drop PDL next year.No one likes MR. He has ran off good people. The same butt kissers will defend MOBA just like they did with Roby (any guesses) Good luck to him he deserves the chance. If you get a chance ask him who was his best youth coach and who he still looks up to (not literally)! Who will coach the U14 and U16 teams that Omar was going to coach?
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Post by 442player on Jul 16, 2018 17:30:06 GMT -5
I’m sure they will try to hire another AFC coach. They tried to hire several this year.
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