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Post by OTPSoccer on Sept 2, 2018 22:52:27 GMT -5
First weekend of SCCL. My view - incredibly well run, and very good competition. I say this from the boys side of SCCL.
One thing I noticed - Vestavia Hills may be the best club (overall) in SCCL. Time will tell. But, as a club, they went 8-3-2.
Any other SCCL first impressions?
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Post by ultimatedad on Sept 3, 2018 12:53:05 GMT -5
Is there some kind of 5 goal skunk rule for Sccl? Seems like many Tophat scores were like 5-0.
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Post by ultimatedad on Sept 3, 2018 12:56:01 GMT -5
Is there some kind of 5 goal skunk rule for Sccl? Seems like many Tophat scores were like 5-0.
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 3, 2018 14:38:22 GMT -5
I heard theres an unspoken rule of not running up the scores....
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Post by greenmonkey on Sept 3, 2018 16:06:00 GMT -5
From the girls side ...
Loved it. Incredibly well run. Easy management from the TM side. Quick and efficient game cards, score reporting, etc.
Water breaks implemented league wide this weekend.
Player tents, benches, water coolers, ref tents all at the fields.
Quality refs and online reporting to the league if there had been for any issues.
Competition seems equitable as most games were ties or very close in score ... Even if there is an unofficial don’t run up the score that wouldn’t result in 3-2 scores.
Great signage and Physical Therapy tents and banners all lent to a very credible enjoyable “kickoff” weekend feel. Plus tee-shirt sales. The girls love that right?!
As a TM I received communication from the league every day.
There was an email reminding coaches the U12-U14 unlimited sub rule was not there to abuse and use to run down the clock (it must have been an issue since it warranted coaches being addressed and DOC being notified”
The message from the club and the league has been very consistent
The primary focus point of the SCCL is to provide the best game day experience for your players and teams. First, please keep in mind the SCCL is a club driven league. Your club Directors have been collaborating off of the field to ensure the game day experience on the field is positive for all of your players, teams and clubs. Everyone is excited to compete against each other this weekend.
GM
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Post by oraclesfriend on Sept 3, 2018 16:38:19 GMT -5
Neither of my girls are on SCCL teams but it sounds pretty good so far. I think that more clubs will join and perhaps make for a two tiered league (or more) in the future.
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Post by greenmonkey on Sept 3, 2018 18:05:28 GMT -5
Girls SCCL CLUB Totals
GP W D L GF GA Pts. NTH 14 12 1 1 49 10 37 CF 20 9 3 8 42 40 30 VHS 18 8 5 5 29 27 29 BUS 20 7 5 8 22 28 26 SSA 17 4 8 5 18 21 20 CES 14 5 2 7 16 19 17 UFA 17 5 2 10 18 38 17 GSA 18 4 4 10 29 40 16
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Sept 3, 2018 18:46:59 GMT -5
I know they are not part of the SCCL, I am curious about the pre-cursor to DA/ECNL/NPL/SCCL will be with the current U11 team(2008s). This is the last time each club will be on level playing field with regards to different leagues. This will include teams inside and outside of the big 5 1/2
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Post by soccerloafer on Sept 3, 2018 21:35:37 GMT -5
I participated as both a parent and referee on the girls side. Venues were well staffed, well marked, all good. Competition (the games I watched or worked) varied from high Athena A to solid RPL, depending on the clubs involved. Sometimes it was Athena A v. RPL, which led to some of the score differentials. That should sort out over time. Overall, nice to play quality soccer and sleep in our own beds...
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 4, 2018 10:44:12 GMT -5
I think some of the reason why SSA did so poorly was due to their politics at their Marietta main campus and how the majority of their SCCL teams in all age groups and either sex are teams from that Central SSA location. The problem is I know for a fact there are teams in the branch locations that are better in some age groups on both the girls and boys side that are better than the Central team they have put in SCCL.
Its one of the things I hate the most about my kids being in a mega-club where they are not going to be DA/ECNL caliber but are still decent players. I'm not driving to Marietta 2-4 days a week for them to be on their SCCL team not when the Classic II teams they are on at their location are just as good if not better than the SCCL team they would be on in Marietta. SSA (and maybe other clubs as well) need to revisit what teams they are putting in for SCCL each year instead of letting politics decide it.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Sept 4, 2018 12:47:01 GMT -5
I think some of the reason why SSA did so poorly was due to their politics at their Marietta main campus and how the majority of their SCCL teams in all age groups and either sex are teams from that Central SSA location. The problem is I know for a fact there are teams in the branch locations that are better in some age groups on both the girls and boys side that are better than the Central team they have put in SCCL. Its one of the things I hate the most about my kids being in a mega-club where they are not going to be DA/ECNL caliber but are still decent players. I'm not driving to Marietta 2-4 days a week for them to be on their SCCL team not when the Classic II teams they are on at their location are just as good if not better than the SCCL team they would be on in Marietta. SSA (and maybe other clubs as well) need to revisit what teams they are putting in for SCCL each year instead of letting politics decide it. They did put the Newnan branch team for 05 girls in SCCL instead of main location, but that was in one of the age groups that had their top team go to ECNL so I am not sure what would have happened otherwise.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 4, 2018 12:57:07 GMT -5
I think some of the reason why SSA did so poorly was due to their politics at their Marietta main campus and how the majority of their SCCL teams in all age groups and either sex are teams from that Central SSA location. The problem is I know for a fact there are teams in the branch locations that are better in some age groups on both the girls and boys side that are better than the Central team they have put in SCCL. Its one of the things I hate the most about my kids being in a mega-club where they are not going to be DA/ECNL caliber but are still decent players. I'm not driving to Marietta 2-4 days a week for them to be on their SCCL team not when the Classic II teams they are on at their location are just as good if not better than the SCCL team they would be on in Marietta. SSA (and maybe other clubs as well) need to revisit what teams they are putting in for SCCL each year instead of letting politics decide it. They did put the Newnan branch team for 05 girls in SCCL instead of main location, but that was in one of the age groups that had their top team go to ECNL so I am not sure what would have happened otherwise. That 05 Girls teams is pretty dang good team especially defensively. I knew that was pretty much the lone exception in SSA using a branch team, but there are others that should be playing it. I know of several boys and girls teams on the southside that should have gotten consideration from U13 and up.
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Post by greenmonkey on Sept 4, 2018 13:07:37 GMT -5
Not sure what slickdaddy means about the main reason SSA did so poorly? Boys or Girls? Specific Age group or Club Wide?
Also it appears they were not location specific another TM who played them said the SSA SCCL 06 Girls are out of Northside.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 4, 2018 13:26:20 GMT -5
Not sure what slickdaddy means about the main reason SSA did so poorly? Boys or Girls? Specific Age group or Club Wide? Also it appears they were not location specific another TM who played them said the SSA SCCL 06 Girls are out of Northside. I think SSA has a lot of politics period. I think that branch locations players are treated like red-headed step-children. They hand pick the superstars out of the branch locations and move them to Central, but even then a lot of those players don't see playing time over lesser quality kids that have played at Central for years. Maybe that is with all mega-clubs, but I just see it at SSA because I have friends of elite kids that have experienced it themselves. I don't think SSA necessarily puts the best teams on the fields sometimes due to politics, but again maybe that is every mega-club. Are there some exceptions to the rules of a few age groups here or there having the branch team play in SCCL? Yes of course, I never said there wasn't exceptions, but that is also due to weird circumstances (like the last poster before me said where a team was promoted to a National level division). 99% of the time though they are going to look out for what's best at the Central location before they even care about what goes on in their branch locations. A perfect example would be taking all of the money from all locations yet only putting turf fields and plans to build indoor facilities at the Cobb locations only. The other locations would love to have 1-2 turf fields especially the south location that rains out if someone spits on the fields due to locations being in low levels. Heck most branch locations would just be happy with some new corner flags and new goals or new netting for goals.
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Post by soccerloafer on Sept 4, 2018 15:35:10 GMT -5
The Mud Creek turf was part of the Cobb County SPLOST program for park improvements. SSA had nothing to do with that. The county also turfed Terrill Mill (NTH use) and Hubert Park (mostly YMCA). Atlanta United / City of Marietta put together Franklin Gateway Park.
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Post by greenmonkey on Sept 4, 2018 15:42:15 GMT -5
Slick Daddy
I think everyone in the mega clubs can make a case for the second tier status from the perceived “main location”
Ask CF North or South how they feel to Central Ask any UFA how they feel to Fowler Ask any NTH how they feel to Buckgead Ask GSA North how they feel to South And I guess now we just add SSA to the list.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 5, 2018 11:50:37 GMT -5
The Mud Creek turf was part of the Cobb County SPLOST program for park improvements. SSA had nothing to do with that. The county also turfed Terrill Mill (NTH use) and Hubert Park (mostly YMCA). Atlanta United / City of Marietta put together Franklin Gateway Park. Yes but the facilities that are in the works at Marathon are all SSA money and have nothing to do with the counties. SSA could also advocate for their customers to these recreation departments and county commissions that adding turf to the other fields SSA uses in other counties would be beneficial to their citizens, but I'm pretty sure they have not done that. It is what it is. I'm just saying, if the whole point of the mega-clubs was to put the best teams on the field most clubs including SSA are failing miserably in that department because they let politics get in the way of playing the best players no matter what location they come from.
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Post by soccerloafer on Sept 5, 2018 13:15:59 GMT -5
I'm not up to speed on SSA's plans for Marathon. A bathroom building would be a great start. 1. The whole point of mega-clubs is to improve profitability. 2. Politics affect every sport and every club everywhere, every time. Not unique to soccer. I hear the same thing from friends in baseball, football, lacrosse, basketball, etc. 3. Clubs are not always run by the most astute or creative business persons, so the foresight to invest in lobbying and advocacy for long term benefits is not expected.
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Post by atlsoccerdad on Sept 17, 2018 12:34:18 GMT -5
Is there some kind of 5 goal skunk rule for Sccl? Seems like many Tophat scores were like 5-0. Yes, for the older boys they cap the goals counted at 6. I am not sure if the girls are capped at 5, but its possible.
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