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Post by fan on Nov 24, 2018 14:21:53 GMT -5
Has anyone heard much about this league? They’ve posted about having a team in Atlanta next year. www.nisaofficial.com/ |
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Post by rifle on Nov 24, 2018 15:57:32 GMT -5
MLS and USSF have tried very hard to maintain control, which has suppressed the growth of pro soccer. NISA was created by a handful of pro clubs disinterested in “franchise” based pro soccer. Rather than paying franchise fees, the NISA idea is to invest in the teams instead. This is less difficult now that soccer continues to gain popularity and support. I love uncle Arthur and what he has done for the soccer community in Georgia, but I would much rather support real club soccer in an open pyramid where the best organizations are rewarded and the worst can fall away to a level more suitable.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Nov 24, 2018 16:13:55 GMT -5
The Atlanta market is already too saturated with pro and semi pro soccer teams, between AU, AU2, GA Revolution, etc I don't think adding another team would be viable. From what I understand this new venture would be akin to 5th division soccer....below the GA Revolution. Honestly I would rather have a pro indoor team (which I believe Graham Tutt is still working on) or a full women's team with the backing of Mr Blank.
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Post by paterfamilias on Nov 24, 2018 19:08:38 GMT -5
I noticed they mentioned a number of local clubs in their release but not NasaTopHat. Was NTH approached and declined?
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Nov 25, 2018 5:35:56 GMT -5
Noticed that also, unless they associate NTH with girls and they are more focused on soccer for boys/men? The issue I see other than the ones already mentioned here is also location. They will still run into significant league travel costs with locations of NE, Philadelphia, Charlotte and Atlanta. For this to work, they would have to get more clubs geographically located in the Northeast/Southeast to keep costs down. Plus, why not try to serve those pockets of the country that are being underserved without any clubs in the MLS, USL, etc...
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Post by gaprospects on Nov 25, 2018 12:13:26 GMT -5
I'd welcome any well-run organization that enhances the soccer culture in the city and provides a realistic place for Atlanta players to make a living as a professional. For everything that AU is, we all know the city is still under deserved as a soccer market by just them alone.
My fear is that, considering the history of the people involved with this league, there will be no vetting of ownership groups or realistic plan for success. And after they inevitably drive themselves into the ground, they'll turn around and blame "the man" for killing them off. I'd love to be proven wrong, though.
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Post by Tom D on Nov 27, 2018 12:27:51 GMT -5
… From what I understand this new venture would be akin to 5th division soccer....below the GA Revolution. ... The national adult league system in the US makes just about as much sense at the youth. So I'm not surprised there is some confusion here. Just to clarify, NISA will be considered 3rd tier. At least that's the level that are seeking in their application for sanctioning from USSF, as a D3 professional league. GA Revolution (and the current version of the Silverbacks) are in the NPSL which is currently considered 4th tier, and registers players through USASA (amateur).
Without promotion and relegation, divisional classification lacks most of it's meaning, but that is a whole other topic. But for what it's worth, here's a breakdown of the current main adult national soccer leagues and their tier or sanctioning from USSF, and if they are new, when they start. I won't go into if they are open/closed, gate-keepers, franchise fees, calendar, or if they support pro/rel as again that's too much for this topic.
MLS - D1;
USL (recently rebranded USL Championship) - D2;
USL D3 (recently rebranded USL League One) - D3, begins Spring 2019;
NISA - D3 begins Fall 2019;
NPSL Founders Cup - probably considered 3rd tier but not sanctioned as pro league, mix of amateur and pro, will register pro players through USASA (yes its possible) begins Fall 2019;
NPSL Pro - probably considered 3rd tier, see NPSL Founders Cup, begins Spring 2020;
PDL (recently rebranded USL League Two) - 4th tier/amateur;
UPSL - 5th tier/amateur;
Please let me know if I'm missing anything.
Hope this helps.
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Post by atv on Nov 27, 2018 12:56:23 GMT -5
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Post by fan on Feb 16, 2019 21:57:01 GMT -5
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Post by atv on Feb 17, 2019 8:31:21 GMT -5
Said ii is the same investor group as Atlanta Sports City. “The Atlanta team are led by the investor group First Team SC, the former NASL applicants involved with the Atlanta Sports City soccer complex in Stonecrest, GA.”
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 26, 2019 14:17:38 GMT -5
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Post by footyfan on Aug 26, 2019 16:48:12 GMT -5
… From what I understand this new venture would be akin to 5th division soccer....below the GA Revolution. ... The national adult league system in the US makes just about as much sense at the youth. So I'm not surprised there is some confusion here. Just to clarify, NISA will be considered 3rd tier. At least that's the level that are seeking in their application for sanctioning from USSF, as a D3 professional league. GA Revolution (and the current version of the Silverbacks) are in the NPSL which is currently considered 4th tier, and registers players through USASA (amateur).
Without promotion and relegation, divisional classification lacks most of it's meaning, but that is a whole other topic. But for what it's worth, here's a breakdown of the current main adult national soccer leagues and their tier or sanctioning from USSF, and if they are new, when they start. I won't go into if they are open/closed, gate-keepers, franchise fees, calendar, or if they support pro/rel as again that's too much for this topic.
MLS - D1;
USL (recently rebranded USL Championship) - D2;
USL D3 (recently rebranded USL League One) - D3, begins Spring 2019;
NISA - D3 begins Fall 2019;
NPSL Founders Cup - probably considered 3rd tier but not sanctioned as pro league, mix of amateur and pro, will register pro players through USASA (yes its possible) begins Fall 2019;
NPSL Pro - probably considered 3rd tier, see NPSL Founders Cup, begins Spring 2020;
PDL (recently rebranded USL League Two) - 4th tier/amateur;
UPSL - 5th tier/amateur;
Please let me know if I'm missing anything.
Hope this helps.
CORRECTION: USL Championship- currently playing- USSF sanctioned D2 www.uslsoccer.com/usl-championshipUSL League 1 currently playing - USSF sanctioned D3 www.uslsoccer.com/usl-league-oneUSL League 2 currently playing - amateur(formerly PDL) www.uslsoccer.com/usl-league-two |
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Post by atlsoccerdad on Aug 26, 2019 22:08:10 GMT -5
The Atlanta market is already too saturated with pro and semi pro soccer teams, between AU, AU2, GA Revolution, etc I don't think adding another team would be viable. From what I understand this new venture would be akin to 5th division soccer....below the GA Revolution. Honestly I would rather have a pro indoor team (which I believe Graham Tutt is still working on) or a full women's team with the backing of Mr Blank. How about a professional Futsal league? Much better than pro indoor soccer (hockey rinks?) in my opinion. |
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Post by gaprospects on Aug 26, 2019 23:28:17 GMT -5
Atlanta SC, the team that is the remnants of the Silverbacks (who were the remnants of Atlanta FC, an amateur team started in the mid-2000's), is supposedly in this league. They played NPSL this season at St. Francis Catholic High School in Alpharetta and seemingly plan to play their pro games there too.
As of 5 days from the league kicking off, and 19 days from their first home match, Atlanta SC has yet to acknowledge they are involved in the league. Like, their website has nothing about it, their social media has been dormant since July 5th, they seemingly have no roster, the only thing to even verify their existence is a dubious email that got sent out a couple of weeks ago about open tryouts.
This is supposed to be a professional team.
When this league first was announced, my fear was that the people involved were not in it to actually create a legitimate professional soccer league, but rather to play a few matches, refuse to promote themselves, and once their league dies in a pitiful whimper, turn around and blame US Soccer for "ensuring open soccer doesn't succeed in the United States." So far, all evidence points to that being the path this league is on. I hope against hope I'm wrong.
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