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Post by cleansheet on Mar 27, 2019 21:43:03 GMT -5
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 27, 2019 21:46:17 GMT -5
Wow -- combining the 2 current u14 teams could be an interesting group!
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Mar 27, 2019 21:52:43 GMT -5
This lends some confirmation that SSA will NOT be getting an older aged DA/ECNL age-group(s).
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Post by weluvsoccer on Mar 27, 2019 22:04:14 GMT -5
Please tell me UFA isn't thinking of doing this same thing with lets say NASA.....
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Post by infoguy on Mar 27, 2019 22:05:34 GMT -5
This lends some confirmation that SSA will NOT be getting an older aged DA/ECNL age-group(s). Wonder what it means for SSA club players?
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Mar 28, 2019 0:25:48 GMT -5
This lends some confirmation that SSA will NOT be getting an older aged DA/ECNL age-group(s). Wonder what it means for SSA club players? I don't think it means much at all except that SSA is trying to stream players to the Concorde DA and ECNL teams from U15 and up instead of those players going to another club on their own. From what I've been told by a current U13B DA player's parent for SSA this was always the plan anyway since SSA wasn't getting DA above U14.
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Post by atv on Mar 28, 2019 5:52:19 GMT -5
Alliance from hell. I’m thinking wow, if done right, these teams will be hard to compete against. Deep, deep player pools and increased access to top fields.
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Post by atv on Mar 28, 2019 6:22:16 GMT -5
Alliance from hell. I’m thinking wow, if done right, these teams will be hard to compete against. Deep, deep player pools and increased assess to fields. Potential player pool based on combined clubs has to be >15,000. Does anybody know? Concorde isn’t actually a massive club since they have no rec program. Probably 2,000-3,000 players max. Likely on the low end of that range with the North and South program issues over last couple years. SSA is one of the larger clubs. Combined, I’m guessing 6,000-8,000 players including SSA’s rec program. Big enough to continue to compete with the monster that UFA and NASA/Tophat have become. Im thinking your estimates are low. Concorde is probably 4,000 and SSA >10,000
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Post by atv on Mar 28, 2019 6:27:19 GMT -5
... based on old numbers posted before from GA soccer registered players
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 28, 2019 8:09:48 GMT -5
A few additional comments both negative and positive: 1) This is a step in the right direction to improve teams and enlarge a player pool. 2) Feel bad for life time Concorde players, who might be negatively hurt by this, but I guess that's the reality of life 3) Concorde's older teams already have huge huge rosters, and I've heard horror stories of kids getting very very very few minutes. And I'm talking about good players. Ken is legendary for carrying gigantic teams and not truly communicating with his kids on what needs to be done from 'soccer' perspective to get better. 4) What would make this a game changer as well, if Concorde and SSA subsidized DA financially in some capacity! 5) Will UFA be doing something similar?
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Mar 28, 2019 8:18:26 GMT -5
A few additional comments both negative and positive: 1) This is a step in the right direction to improve teams and enlarge a player pool. 2) Feel bad for life time Concorde players, who might be negatively hurt by this, but I guess that's the reality of life 3) Concorde's older teams already have huge huge rosters, and I've heard horror stories of kids getting very very very few minutes. And I'm talking about good players. Ken is legendary for carrying gigantic teams and not truly communicating with his kids on what needs to be done from 'soccer' perspective to get better. 4) What would make this a game changer as well, if Concorde and SSA subsidized DA financially in some capacity! 5) Will UFA be doing something similar? #4 - I don't see CF and GB giving up any $$$ so no bueno to subsidies... #5 - The logical partner would not be AFU, but instead GSA. They would own Gwinnett and the surrounding cities/towns/counties + It would give the alliance DA/ECNL/NPL/SCCL and more... FG
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Post by 4theloveofsoccer on Mar 28, 2019 10:24:20 GMT -5
I can see why Concorde and SSA came together with Concorde South/North being depleted, in addition SSA DA program possibly going away in the near future.
Which clubs will be the next to merge or have an alliance? FG I can see that happening and makes sense to me.
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Post by soccerworld1974 on Mar 28, 2019 11:22:42 GMT -5
So is this going to be a full on merger?
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Post by Keeper on Mar 28, 2019 11:37:10 GMT -5
Alliance from hell. I’m thinking wow, if done right, these teams will be hard to compete against. Deep, deep player pools and increased assess to fields. Potential player pool based on combined clubs has to be >15,000. Does anybody know? Concorde isn’t actually a massive club since they have no rec program. Probably 2,000-3,000 players max. Likely on the low end of that range with the North and South program issues over last couple years. SSA is one of the larger clubs. Combined, I’m guessing 6,000-8,000 players including SSA’s rec program. Big enough to continue to compete with the monster that UFA and NASA/Tophat have become. What are you talking about? Concorde runs multiple rec programs. Yes they’re not called Concorde but all those lil neighborhood and church programs like Newtown and Jones Creek UMC, as well as their Sparks and Flames 4U - 8U programs. Concorde’s overall numbers are larger then you think.
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Mar 28, 2019 12:08:06 GMT -5
So I guess this means that a lot of next year’s U15 BDA teammates will be playing against each other for the final time this Saturday at 11am. 0-0 in the first meeting. I’m sure there will be many interested and anxious eyes on this one!
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Mar 28, 2019 12:27:28 GMT -5
So I guess this means that a lot of next year’s U15 BDA teammates will be playing against each other for the final time this Saturday at 11am. 0-0 in the first meeting. I’m sure there will be many interested and anxious eyes on this one! That will probably be the most watched film by the coaches at CF to help in determining which players to have on their board or not. In essence, it's going to be an interesting game since it will be the de facto unofficial tryout game for both teams. Usually, tryout season begins in earnest in April, but I guess this is a preview. Question is will the boys step up their game to crush the spirits of their counterparts or try to pull back a little since they may be on the same team with some of these boys come the fall? I might have to go through my couch to find change totaling $1 to see this showdown. In other news, what do UFA and AU do to mitigate the rise in skill level that this combined team will present? Will UFA look to have an identity that doesn't have them park the bus more times against good attacking teams? Will UFA look to finally unleash their really fast and skilled strikers and wingers to cause havoc on opponents back-lines? The AU 05 team, has been the dominant team in these here parts for the last few years. With the MLS Generation Adi Cup (GA Cup) starting next year with this group, will AU finally make some real cuts and build up the size of the middle or keep their strength to the perimeter? Should be a fun wind down of the season for this group. I know I will enjoy watching them compete over the next couple of months...FG
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Post by toddga675 on Mar 28, 2019 15:27:45 GMT -5
So I guess this means that a lot of next year’s U15 BDA teammates will be playing against each other for the final time this Saturday at 11am. 0-0 in the first meeting. I’m sure there will be many interested and anxious eyes on this one! I might have to go through my couch to find change totaling $1 to see this showdown. Is there a link to watch a livestream? ty
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Mar 28, 2019 15:37:59 GMT -5
It will be really interesting next year when the AU 05s play their 2 local rivals - will be like the YNT sessions except their opponents will have had time training together. There are also a few dominant teams coming on the division schedule next year. And if things remain unchanged, only 8 playoff spots.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 28, 2019 15:42:13 GMT -5
A few additional comments both negative and positive: 1) This is a step in the right direction to improve teams and enlarge a player pool. 2) Feel bad for life time Concorde players, who might be negatively hurt by this, but I guess that's the reality of life 3) Concorde's older teams already have huge huge rosters, and I've heard horror stories of kids getting very very very few minutes. And I'm talking about good players. Ken is legendary for carrying gigantic teams and not truly communicating with his kids on what needs to be done from 'soccer' perspective to get better. 4) What would make this a game changer as well, if Concorde and SSA subsidized DA financially in some capacity! 5) Will UFA be doing something similar? #4 - I don't see CF and GB giving up any $$$ so no bueno to subsidies... #5 - The logical partner would not be AFU, but instead GSA. They would own Gwinnett and the surrounding cities/towns/counties + It would give the alliance DA/ECNL/NPL/SCCL and more... FG Do you think there is any chance of UFA and GSA coming together like this??
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Mar 28, 2019 15:48:54 GMT -5
Right now, I would say I don't see UFA and GSA coming together. GSA as far as I know has never wanted DA and haven't made a big push for it. They are tangentially tied to the other big clubs thru SCCL and have been quite successful with ECNL. Their leadership is about keeping that feel of being a local, family style, everyone knows everyone type of club and it works for them. But as the landscape changes, anything is possible...FG
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Mar 28, 2019 15:50:15 GMT -5
I might have to go through my couch to find change totaling $1 to see this showdown. Is there a link to watch a livestream? ty Cost of getting into Georgia Soccer Park, but then again, I could call on a friend to watch a copy of the film. But there is nothing like being live on the sidelines watching the ebb and flow of the game...FG
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 28, 2019 16:51:56 GMT -5
Somebody needs to livestream this and the u17 Atlanta united vs UFA game on Sunday.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Mar 28, 2019 21:16:29 GMT -5
Now that is a game I will definitely go watch on Sunday. Heard TA was a little more intense in practice today. He kept making the lads work on a particular drill over and over and over again till they got it. Looks like he's not taking this game lightly either...FG
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 28, 2019 21:35:51 GMT -5
Back at ya - word was Dixon was ripping into the boys tonight also.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Mar 29, 2019 9:00:05 GMT -5
So is this going to be a full on merger? This is purely conjecture here, but honestly I think this alliance is a test run and in 2-3 years they will indeed merge fully. I think they will take the Concorde name (since it has more clout). This is similar to GSA/Dacula except on a larger scale. I think Dacula had more kids but GSA had the name with more clout. I think Dacula pretty much took over the administration at GSA correct? I don't know what that will mean for leagues where they both have teams like SCCL? I would assume that if there are 1-2 teams for age groups for each Club they will just keep all 2-4 of those teams and reduce the number of teams in those leagues in the new age groups. SSA is on year 1 of their uniform cycle, so I hope if they are going to fully merge it is the 2020-21 season so parents won't complain about switching uniforms again. There was a 3 year cycle...(Adidas...Nike....Nike with Yokohama logo on it) where parents were buying new jerseys every year instead of doing 2 year cycles like they promised and I had to hear all their complaints.
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Post by infoguy on Mar 29, 2019 13:31:22 GMT -5
The alliance is not entirely clear to me, as an SSA parent, as it is varied based on age and gender - and probably at the whim of CF and what benefits them. For instance, as many of you know, last year CF basically gave an entire ECNL girls slot (1 of their 2 girls ECNL teams at same age) to SSA because the SSA girls team was super strong. And, with boys DA at the young ages at SSA, SSA can tell them there’s CF that they can possibly transition to - and direct them to CF, which benefits CF. Now with older boys and girls thrown into the alliance, SSA boys can maybe have an easier road to joining CF ECNL or DA, if they don’t want to just accept/stay at the SSA NPL level. But like the boys playing DA at SSA, they will have to try out at CF. The benefit to SSA players if that they have the blessing of their SSA coach, and the SSA coach would confer with the CF coaches. However, it won’t be a sit down of SSA and CF coaches where they make assignments based on their collective pool of players. CF will hold their tryouts separately - it won’t be a wholesale swap like the SSA girls last season—especially given there is only one CF ECNL boys team.
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Mar 29, 2019 13:57:23 GMT -5
Not just the blessing of an SSA coach in one case.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 29, 2019 14:10:09 GMT -5
There has to be some sort of collective conversations about players, then otherwise what makes it different than just an SSA player going to Concorde and trying out like any other player off the street.
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Mar 29, 2019 15:04:32 GMT -5
I just told you what makes it different. Pay attention. SD will be coaching CF U15 DA. Kind of a big deal. Other than that, everyone tries out and the best 18-20 players are selected as usual.
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Post by infoguy on Mar 29, 2019 15:13:35 GMT -5
There has to be some sort of collective conversations about players, then otherwise what makes it different than just an SSA player going to Concorde and trying out like any other player off the street. I think an SSA coach would help grease the skids for an SSA player to get a solid look and consideration during CF tryouts - for that NPL player to potentially play ECNL or DA boys. I seriously doubt there will a pool of players where SSA and CF coaches are sharing information in an objective manner.
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