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Post by soccermaxx72 on Jun 5, 2019 8:45:23 GMT -5
I heard 10 girls of that group are. It happy about SCCL 2 and are attempting to leave in the hopes that they could take their group and some how have Georgia soccer allow them to bring their NL spot with them to another club. Although I feel bad for those players this would be something interesting to watch because I think it would set a bad precedent.
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Post by soccergurl on Jun 5, 2019 9:24:24 GMT -5
I do not see a problem with the move. Let the parents and kids decide what is best for them. Clubs make decisions that benefit the clubs. Players should too.
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Post by mistergrinch on Jun 5, 2019 9:26:47 GMT -5
So - where are they going?
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Post by shesallthat on Jun 5, 2019 9:33:11 GMT -5
Not true.
My daughter was on that team. The team splintered. Some of the group chose to stay as SCCL second division because of comfort with the club, some chose to tryout at UFA Norcross SCCL top division to play higher competition, and a couple chose a different club based on distance it was to AFU. The group who chose Norcross were joined by a small group from GSA who are associated with the AFU group through friends/ parents, etc.
The NL spot was made available to them at three locations but the logistics of getting nine committed at various distances from players' homes just ended up not being viable. The three clubs were two newer locations and one current club that wasn't NL.
AFU originally offered to keep NL if the team voted for it. According to what a group of parents told me, the majority voted NL, though we couldn't see who voted for which. However, the girls were told SCCL won out. That helped fuel the divide. I have no clue one way or the other on the validity of that vote, this is just what happened.
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Post by mistergrinch on Jun 5, 2019 9:36:08 GMT -5
some chose to tryout at UFA Norcross SCCL top division to play higher competition, Umm... I believe Forsyth Red is getting the SCCL spot this year and Norcross is dropping to SCCL-P because of their poor showing. |
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Post by shesallthat on Jun 5, 2019 9:38:40 GMT -5
some chose to tryout at UFA Norcross SCCL top division to play higher competition, Umm... I believe Forsyth Red is getting the SCCL spot this year and Norcross is dropping to SCCL-P because of their poor showing. |
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Post by shesallthat on Jun 5, 2019 9:40:13 GMT -5
Again, not true. SCCL is run out of Norcross while SCCL-P is run out of Fowler. It is in writing with the team at Norcross that they will be SCCL 1.
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Post by pluto on Jun 5, 2019 9:44:03 GMT -5
Again, not true. SCCL is run out of Norcross while SCCL-P is run out of Fowler. It is in writing with the team at Norcross that they will be SCCL 1. SCCL 1st division is staying at Norcross. And that team will be much better this go around. |
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Post by mistergrinch on Jun 5, 2019 9:45:16 GMT -5
Interesting.. I'd heard the opposite. I hope norcross does better - they had a rough outing last year.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 5, 2019 11:25:17 GMT -5
Again, not true. SCCL is run out of Norcross while SCCL-P is run out of Fowler. It is in writing with the team at Norcross that they will be SCCL 1. SCCL 1st division is staying at Norcross. And that team will be much better this go around. Well I think you are both right. The projections at Fowler were clear that 05 Red was getting SCCL, not SCCL-P. However, projections are subject to change depending on who shows up where. It is possible that the powers that be changed their minds when the AFU girls showed up at Norcross. ALTHOUGH it will be interesting to see what happens because several NPL 05 girls at Fowler are dropping down because they did not like the travel/expense of NPL and there are new kids coming in from other clubs so it will be interesting to see. Regardless hopefully both teams will be happy and do well. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 5, 2019 12:43:11 GMT -5
Hate to say it, but it would be somewhat humorous if some went to Norcross and got SCCL-2 anyways.
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Post by SoccerMom on Jun 5, 2019 13:04:41 GMT -5
SCCL 1st division is staying at Norcross. And that team will be much better this go around. Well I think you are both right. The projections at Fowler were clear that 05 Red was getting SCCL, not SCCL-P. However, projections are subject to change depending on who shows up where. It is possible that the powers that be changed their minds when the AFU girls showed up at Norcross. ALTHOUGH it will be interesting to see what happens because several NPL 05 girls at Fowler are dropping down because they did not like the travel/expense of NPL and there are new kids coming in from other clubs so it will be interesting to see. Regardless hopefully both teams will be happy and do well. O5 Red at Fowler has them listed as Premier on the projections |
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Post by SoccerMom on Jun 5, 2019 13:06:34 GMT -5
Hate to say it, but it would be somewhat humorous if some went to Norcross and got SCCL-2 anyways. Only 08 and 06 boys at Fowler are supposed to be SCCL 1, the rest are all SCCL 2 |
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Post by Keeper on Jun 5, 2019 14:37:43 GMT -5
For these monstrosity of a mega club with multiple locations fighting for alphabet soup leagues I say have all the teams play in a summer tournament for seeding and placement.
Battle Royale of Forsyth vs Norcross for who’s the P and who isn’t!
SSA vs Concorde for ECNL or SCCL!
Gsa vs Dacula for who’s the true second fiddle!
Put up or shut up! 😂
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Post by messindreams on Jun 5, 2019 15:24:08 GMT -5
Hate to say it, but it would be somewhat humorous if some went to Norcross and got SCCL-2 anyways. Only 08 and 06 boys at Fowler are supposed to be SCCL 1, the rest are all SCCL 2 Is it possible that both 08 and 06 teams will field SCCL 1? TH and CF have multiple SCCL 1 teams at some age groups. I heard from 06 parents that got final cuts from DA today that club recommended them to join Norcross SCCL coached by BK or Fowler NPL coached by GJ in the order. Which do you think is a better option? |
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 5, 2019 15:25:24 GMT -5
For these monstrosity of a mega club with multiple locations fighting for alphabet soup leagues I say have all the teams play in a summer tournament for seeding and placement. Battle Royale of Forsyth vs Norcross for who’s the P and who isn’t! SSA vs Concorde for ECNL or SCCL! Gsa vs Dacula for who’s the true second fiddle! Put up or shut up! 😂 Sounds like a good idea. Think that it would need to be a two game home and home series decided on aggregate. |
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Post by messindreams on Jun 5, 2019 15:25:24 GMT -5
For these monstrosity of a mega club with multiple locations fighting for alphabet soup leagues I say have all the teams play in a summer tournament for seeding and placement. Battle Royale of Forsyth vs Norcross for who’s the P and who isn’t! SSA vs Concorde for ECNL or SCCL! Gsa vs Dacula for who’s the true second fiddle! Put up or shut up! 😂 Doesn't that depend on who tries out where? Team this year maybe different from the one prior/next. |
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Post by k on Jun 5, 2019 16:18:55 GMT -5
Here are the facts . No side is right or wrong , just different philosophies . 1. Some chose to go from NL to sccl second tier so that they would win more and feel better so they stayed at AFU. 2. Some chose UFA Norcross for two reasons: the challenge of helping that team get better and the highest level offered since they weren’t NL anymore. 3. A few went other places for good reasons : location , distance , siblings , etc. 4. AFU parents were promised they would be sccl top tier the following year. But the DOC was asked to , but did NOT, put that in writing . 5. The group who took the chance and stepped outside their comfort zone have it IN writing they will be the sccl tier 1 team at Norcross . I ask you to read 4 and 5 again . I’ll leave it to the reader to judge who they would trust more. True, maybe #4 becomes true and maybe #5 will prove to be untruthful , but who do you take more stock in? 6. Here’s the little secret some of the parents who chose sccl 2nd level at AFU don’t know but I do through friends: Tophat kids who didn’t make DA or DPL will push down to other clubs . In return , many ECNL kids at AFU and other ECNL clubs who live near Duluth will drop to AFU sccl 2 with the promise of sccl 1 and ECRL the next year . Bottom line ? Some of the same parents who chose the safe known sccl2 team will in fact not MAKE the team and will be AFU 3rd team . And the karma in all this  ? Had they taken the Norcross sccl1 offer , they were guaranteed to be part of the team! KARMA. Isn’t it funny? I feel bad for the kids on both sides here - stressful I’m sure. Do I feel sorry for the parents who chose to stay? Not one bit. My contacts told me they were warned for weeks not to accept if it wasn’t in writing . |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 5, 2019 16:35:20 GMT -5
Well I think you are both right. The projections at Fowler were clear that 05 Red was getting SCCL, not SCCL-P. However, projections are subject to change depending on who shows up where. It is possible that the powers that be changed their minds when the AFU girls showed up at Norcross. ALTHOUGH it will be interesting to see what happens because several NPL 05 girls at Fowler are dropping down because they did not like the travel/expense of NPL and there are new kids coming in from other clubs so it will be interesting to see. Regardless hopefully both teams will be happy and do well. O5 Red at Fowler has them listed as Premier on the projections Maybe it does now since tryouts started and this AFU thing happened but ORIGINALLY the projection was 05 Red was SCCL, not SCCL-P. If you know any 05 Norcross girls parents you would probably have heard them tell you that they were wanting to drop down as they had a really tough year. HOWEVER the addition of some strong players from AFU would set that team up to be better able to compete. Regardless things have changed...as they often do during tryouts 😜 |
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Post by 4theloveofsoccer on Jun 5, 2019 17:11:56 GMT -5
Here are the facts . No side is right or wrong , just different philosophies . 1. Some chose to go from NL to sccl second tier so that they would win more and feel better so they stayed at AFU. 2. Some chose UFA Norcross for two reasons: the challenge of helping that team get better and the highest level offered since they weren’t NL anymore. 3. A few went other places for good reasons : location , distance , siblings , etc. 4. AFU parents were promised they would be sccl top tier the following year. But the DOC was asked to , but did NOT, put that in writing . 5. The group who took the chance and stepped outside their comfort zone have it IN writing they will be the sccl tier 1 team at Norcross . I ask you to read 4 and 5 again . I’ll leave it to the reader to judge who they would trust more. True, maybe #4 becomes true and maybe #5 will prove to be untruthful , but who do you take more stock in? 6. Here’s the little secret some of the parents who chose sccl 2nd level at AFU don’t know but I do through friends: Tophat kids who didn’t make DA or DPL will push down to other clubs . In return , many ECNL kids at AFU and other ECNL clubs who live near Duluth will drop to AFU sccl 2 with the promise of sccl 1 and ECRL the next year . Bottom line ? Some of the same parents who chose the safe known sccl2 team will in fact not MAKE the team and will be AFU 3rd team . And the karma in all this ? Had they taken the Norcross sccl1 offer , they were guaranteed to be part of the team! KARMA. Isn’t it funny? I feel bad for the kids on both sides here - stressful I’m sure. Do I feel sorry for the parents who chose to stay? Not one bit. My contacts told me they were warned for weeks not to accept if it wasn’t in writing . If holds true...enough said with AFU not having it writing, while UFA Norcross did. It is a no win situation and unfortunate for all involved. |
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Post by justafan on Jun 5, 2019 18:11:34 GMT -5
And what is preventing these same kids from coming to Norcross and bumping kids that had it in writing? Would sitting on the bench for an entire SCCL1 game be a better experience than playing at another level?
Bottom line is everyone is free to make their own choice. Some of them work out and some not so well.
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Post by k on Jun 5, 2019 18:13:32 GMT -5
I don’t know how much the team will improve because from what I’ve been told more stayed at AFU out of fear than took a chance to better themselves by going up a level.
Maybe that mindset explains why this team always played the best teams tough while playing down to the lower teams—not having the killer instinct ?
Time will tell.
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Post by heretounderstand on Jun 5, 2019 19:25:57 GMT -5
I don’t know how much the team will improve because from what I’ve been told more stayed at AFU out of fear than took a chance to better themselves by going up a level. Maybe that mindset explains why this team always played the best teams tough while playing down to the lower teams—not having the killer instinct ? Time will tell. I also heard all but 4 stayed at AFU despite one parent trying to get them all to leave. Sounds like they picked up a few good ones and they are hoping to perform well at SCCL P and get promoted to earn SCCL the following year. So it all worked out in the end! |
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Post by justafan on Jun 5, 2019 19:55:20 GMT -5
Kids come and go every year and on occasion some even have repeat tours at a prior club. There is probably a great lesson here in how you handled those moves. If you decided to leave and do it in the right manner people generally understand. Trying the burn down the village on your way out of town generally doesn’t go over well.
You never know what happens in the upcoming years.
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Post by blootooth on Jun 5, 2019 21:15:40 GMT -5
Kids come and go every year and on occasion some even have repeat tours at a prior club. There is probably a great lesson here in how you handled those moves. If you decided to leave and do it in the right manner people generally understand. Trying the burn down the village on your way out of town generally doesn’t go over well. You never know what happens in the upcoming years. Completely agree! k sounds extremely bitter. Bitter at the club and bitter at the players that chose to stay. He even suggested that it’s bad karma. lol. But I would say, be careful, the grass is not always greener on the other side. I don’t think any of it is personal. Decisions are made for the entire club, not one person or family. ALL clubs do this. As a family, you simply decide if the new path works for you or not. No karma involved. Seems like there is some disappointment (heartbreak?) that the team has split up, but each family has to do what is best for them. I don’t know the numbers, but I know several are staying with AFU.Best of luck to all involved. |
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Jun 5, 2019 21:17:37 GMT -5
I don’t know how much the team will improve because from what I’ve been told more stayed at AFU out of fear than took a chance to better themselves by going up a level. Maybe that mindset explains why this team always played the best teams tough while playing down to the lower teams—not having the killer instinct ? Time will tell. To be fair, they played the best teams tough by pulling down ECNL players and appeared to play down to competition when they didn’t heave the ECNL help. Now maybe afu wont feel compelled to pull ecnl players down and if that’s the case the team should fit in perfectly in sccl2 |
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Post by h22 on Jun 5, 2019 22:48:25 GMT -5
Full disclosure: I’m a family member of a family who chose the Norcross option.
For those trying to create division amongst the parents of the AFU team please stop .
Those who chose Norcross over AFU aren’t the bad guys . Those who chose AFU over Norcross aren’t the bad guys . Those who chided other clubs aren’t the bad guys.
The Norcross group isn’t mad at any parent or player for choosing other options. From what I’ve heard from my sister-in-law whose kid chose Norctoss is this: No one is mad on either of the 3 or 4 sides to this story because of choices made.
The only thing that caused some stress / confusion is a little more than half the team asked a couple parents to set up a meeting with Norcross to which they obliged. That took a lot of going back
and forth to get s time good for everyone.
After the meeting , the whole group liked what they heard and agreed to at least tryout once there to see how they felt sbout it .
Then , at the last minute all but a few parents backed out because they were told by AFU they need to be at tryouts the first night to make SCCL2.
The parents who worked on this FOR the group then felt awkward and left out to dry after giving their word .
In the end only three or four kept their word and tried out there and the UFA leadership greatly appreciated them keeping their word.
So , before people start branding those who went to Norcross as having bad attitudes , think a little bit. See , 10 or so families were upset with everything at AFU, they asked for options so a couple parents looked for something better than SCCL2. The group of 10 or how ever many there were ,all agreed to tryout at Norcross, but at the very end, they didn’t for fear of not making the sccl2 AFU team after it was set up in accordance with the wishes of the group .
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Post by h22 on Jun 5, 2019 22:52:33 GMT -5
I forgot to add a few of the parents deciding to go back on their word didn’t bother telling the people who organized the meeting until the night before tryouts, the day of tryouts , or even after tryouts.
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Post by Keeper on Jun 5, 2019 22:55:42 GMT -5
For these monstrosity of a mega club with multiple locations fighting for alphabet soup leagues I say have all the teams play in a summer tournament for seeding and placement. Battle Royale of Forsyth vs Norcross for who’s the P and who isn’t! SSA vs Concorde for ECNL or SCCL! Gsa vs Dacula for who’s the true second fiddle! Put up or shut up! 😂 Sounds like a good idea. Think that it would need to be a two game home and home series decided on aggregate. Home and home?!? They’re both the home teams, it’s the same club! It’s like okay what shade of Dunkin’ Donuts do you wanna wear, and then just play. |
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Post by Keeper on Jun 5, 2019 22:59:09 GMT -5
For these monstrosity of a mega club with multiple locations fighting for alphabet soup leagues I say have all the teams play in a summer tournament for seeding and placement. Battle Royale of Forsyth vs Norcross for who’s the P and who isn’t! SSA vs Concorde for ECNL or SCCL! Gsa vs Dacula for who’s the true second fiddle! Put up or shut up! 😂 Doesn't that depend on who tries out where? Team this year maybe different from the one prior/next. Exactly so Tryouts end this week and you play next weekend single elimination style to decide which team is really the “best”. Farther you go better placement you get between Athena A-C, NPL, NL, SCCL-P, SCCL, Ecnl and DA (did I get them all 🤷🏻♂️) depending on what the club has. |
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? Had they taken the Norcross sccl1 offer , they were guaranteed to be part of the team! 
