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Post by SoccerMom on Jun 9, 2019 21:16:00 GMT -5
Hi, a coach asked me to post this on his behalf. If interested send me a PM and I will give you his contact info
UFA 06G NPL team is looking for 2 Center backs
TIA!
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Post by Keeper on Jun 9, 2019 22:18:31 GMT -5
Looking for two center backs?!? Haha aren’t we all! 😂
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Post by guest on Jun 10, 2019 13:01:23 GMT -5
Looking for two center backs?!? Haha aren’t we all! 😂 Are Centre-Backs an uncommon commodity? Is that because everyone wants to push up and score? |
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Post by Keeper on Jun 10, 2019 13:05:50 GMT -5
Looking for two center backs?!? Haha aren’t we all! 😂 Are Centre-Backs an uncommon commodity? Is that because everyone wants to push up and score? Good ones are. I mean they are essentially your best & smartest players on the fields. That’s why you rarely see them ever come off and they’re typically captains. |
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Post by soccerworld1974 on Jun 10, 2019 13:48:29 GMT -5
Quality Center backs are Gold!!!
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Post by SoccerMom on Jun 10, 2019 14:02:51 GMT -5
Update --- in need of 1
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Post by guest on Jun 10, 2019 14:03:56 GMT -5
Follow on question, if that is true, why do teams not spend more time on defending? I mean there is keeper training and finishing training and most drills are about attacking. So little time is spent training quality defenders. My child is a ‘good player’ but because he likes to defend and not constantly push up, he gets passed over by coaches looking for players who are more offensive minded. It’s a double dipped problem because when those offensive minded defenders take off to take part in the attack, they never want to drop back to defend the counter. So there is a mismatch in numbers which can lead to a score. That invariably leads to ‘well our defense let in another one’ comments.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 10, 2019 14:47:27 GMT -5
Defense doesn't excite most high-level coaches. Same could generally be said in college football. We're in an age of offense.
There are few 06 G's who know how to slide tackle, let alone do it properly...or even to how to properly defend an attacker side-by-side or to block a cross.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 10, 2019 15:30:29 GMT -5
I say this having watched in 06G: ~15 ECNL, 2 NPL, 2 SCCL, 4 NL, ~10 Athena A, and ~5 Athena C teams. So yeah, I'm commenting on the age group and gender as a whole. The defending simply isn't that great at this age and gender, particularly for the outside backs. Some skills obviously haven't been taught, and some skills haven't been learned through experience. And honestly the attacking really isn't very organized at that age either.
But to the coaching comment, I can't say I've seen many drills on my kid's teams for defensive play from either coach. Most of the 1v1 work was face-to-face rather than side-by-side.
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 10, 2019 16:07:29 GMT -5
What did Mad dog and Glavine say back in the day, Chicks dig the long ball.
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Jun 10, 2019 17:12:59 GMT -5
It goes something like this:
1. In pre-academy, all the kids that are going to be top players later are scoring 8 goals a game.
2. In academy, all those kids are moved around a bit and roles start to get defined. Quickness and technical skill in the midfield, speed and the ability to defend on the back line, everybody else stays up front. By U12 CBs could dominate up front but nobody else can defend, and scores like 7-5 would be the norm, and coaches would much rather see 2-1 games than 7-5 games.
3. In Alphabet leagues, some of those CBs become disenchanted or bored with their role on the back line and start whining about “wanting to play the 6.”
4. A year or two into that and there are very few CBs left that are truly bad asses, live for the position, and are real threats on set pieces, can get back faster than counters can develop, and can run the whole field for 80 minutes.
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 11, 2019 10:59:33 GMT -5
It goes something like this: 1. In pre-academy, all the kids that are going to be top players later are scoring 8 goals a game. 2. In academy, all those kids are moved around a bit and roles start to get defined. Quickness and technical skill in the midfield, speed and the ability to defend on the back line, everybody else stays up front. By U12 CBs could dominate up front but nobody else can defend, and scores like 7-5 would be the norm, and coaches would much rather see 2-1 games than 7-5 games. 3. In Alphabet leagues, some of those CBs become disenchanted or bored with their role on the back line and start whining about “wanting to play the 6.” 4. A year or two into that and there are very few CBs left that are truly bad asses, live for the position, and are real threats on set pieces, can get back faster than counters can develop, and can run the whole field for 80 minutes. Coaches cause many of the problems with lack of center backs. At a young age, the center back is the kid who tackles and clears the ball. As kids age, coaches look for kids who are good with their feet and the kid that has been taught to clear the ball repeatedly is not as good with his feet or is overlooked at tryouts because coaches are paying attention to offense and not defending. The coach then takes an attacking player and makes them a center back. Look at Atlanta United Academy and the other DA teams. There are not many kids that have been playing defender through the ranks that make those teams. Look at Bello. At 10 or 11, he was a striker. As he got older, he played left wing and attacking mid. He did not play left back until national team camp. Now (once he gets healthy) is a left back in MLS soccer. |
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Jun 11, 2019 11:15:26 GMT -5
True to a point. AU takes all the attacking players from the area and turns some into deflated but just-happy-to-be-here center backs. No one is left on the other teams that is ruthless around the goal and AU’s own middle and attacking thirds are the best around so it looks like a good strategy until they play other MLS DA sides that do the same thing. The recent tournament success of their 05s notwithstanding, academy-wide their back lines are just ordinary against other MLS clubs. Looking at how leaky our national teams are, it might be an overlooked problem throughout the USSF.
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Post by mistergrinch on Jun 12, 2019 7:36:58 GMT -5
Follow on question, if that is true, why do teams not spend more time on defending? I mean there is keeper training and finishing training and most drills are about attacking. So little time is spent training quality defenders. My child is a ‘good player’ but because he likes to defend and not constantly push up, he gets passed over by coaches looking for players who are more offensive minded. It’s a double dipped problem because when those offensive minded defenders take off to take part in the attack, they never want to drop back to defend the counter. So there is a mismatch in numbers which can lead to a score. That invariably leads to ‘well our defense let in another one’ comments. Look at the very high levels. Center backs are picked as center backs.. but outside backs are often just converted wingers. |
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