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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jul 9, 2019 13:41:15 GMT -5
Had a few referee assignors in some groups my son is subscribed to urge all referees to take the recert class this summer even if they normally take it in the winter. They said they are getting rid of R9, R8, R7 classifications completely, only allowing 13 and up take the initial class but grandfathering all the current under 13 referees.
They mainly talked about the changes of the Laws of the game which I think my son already had read up on.
I'm just wondering if he really needs to take a recert class when he isn't due one.
I was planning to take the initial class this summer and get my license just to have it even if I don't referee too often. Too many times I am at the fields with my son and they need an AR or something. I always help but I might as well get paid for it when I do.
I'm just curious if anyone in the know, knows what GA Soccer is changing as far as refereeing classes and license types go?
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Post by fanatic21 on Jul 9, 2019 13:57:53 GMT -5
The summer recert classes will certify refs through 2020. Even though he doesn't need technically to recertify til January, it is a good idea to do so now so that he gets instruction (not just reading up on his own) on the laws of the game updates/changes.
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Post by docnfulton on Jul 10, 2019 17:14:59 GMT -5
Biggest changes are doing away with R8, R7 etc now called Grass Roots referee. Other big bombshell is minimum age of 13 to become a referee. As a club director, it continues to be frustrating to see US Soccer shoving these changes down the throats of youth soccer. Laws of the Game changes we have seen on the recent televised tournaments for example ball in play inside 18 on goal kicks, cautions for coaches, etc, all of that is fine and can be communicated to existing referees. It’s just hard to have faith that these decisions are data-based when it comes to the age minimum.
im personally unsure what the impact of the age change on new referees. We use ARs on all 7v7 games, one of the few clubs in our area. U14 players being the start of your potential referee pool is tough to swallow. The number of players drops in the conversion to 11v11 with team formation players required. Declines continue every year after that.
Referees have to be recruited then nurtured in a very difficult environment. From what I was told, the Georgia referee association has no say in this.
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Post by girlcoach on Jul 11, 2019 10:56:17 GMT -5
I assume this is to comply with the Fair Labor Standards Act. The minimum age for non-agricultural jobs is 14. Perhaps you could argue that your teams play agricultural soccer so that law doesn't apply. You can use refs under the age of 14, you just can't pay them. Good luck with that. It has been an issue for a long time, I assume most clubs have used under-age kids and paid them, but it is clearly against federal law. I am not a lawyer and I don't play one on TV so if any lawyer wants to contradict me, go ahead but the law seems quite clear.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jul 16, 2019 8:26:07 GMT -5
Biggest changes are doing away with R8, R7 etc now called Grass Roots referee. Other big bombshell is minimum age of 13 to become a referee. As a club director, it continues to be frustrating to see US Soccer shoving these changes down the throats of youth soccer. Laws of the Game changes we have seen on the recent televised tournaments for example ball in play inside 18 on goal kicks, cautions for coaches, etc, all of that is fine and can be communicated to existing referees. It’s just hard to have faith that these decisions are data-based when it comes to the age minimum. im personally unsure what the impact of the age change on new referees. We use ARs on all 7v7 games, one of the few clubs in our area. U14 players being the start of your potential referee pool is tough to swallow. The number of players drops in the conversion to 11v11 with team formation players required. Declines continue every year after that. Referees have to be recruited then nurtured in a very difficult environment. From what I was told, the Georgia referee association has no say in this. Everything I am reading is that all referees under 13 that have already taken the initial class are grandfathered in so that may help a bit. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jul 16, 2019 8:28:26 GMT -5
I assume this is to comply with the Fair Labor Standards Act. The minimum age for non-agricultural jobs is 14. Perhaps you could argue that your teams play agricultural soccer so that law doesn't apply. You can use refs under the age of 14, you just can't pay them. Good luck with that. It has been an issue for a long time, I assume most clubs have used under-age kids and paid them, but it is clearly against federal law. I am not a lawyer and I don't play one on TV so if any lawyer wants to contradict me, go ahead but the law seems quite clear. Maybe but if that was the case they would have made the age 14 instead and would not have grandfathered in the referees already under 13 that have already taken the initial class. I remember keeping score and book for youth baseball games before I was 14. I think I was 12 when I started. I had to file taxes etc.... I don't think the county recreation association had any issues with it. Maybe the laws have changed since I was a kid? I would assume the federal government probably looks the other way on non-profit youth leagues paying underage kids. It isn't like it is a sweat shop or something. |
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