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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 26, 2019 11:42:43 GMT -5
Very impressive trip -- unreal experience. Its always crazy to compare a true professional academy to the other pay to play clubs -- pretty amazing to think about the differences in resources and the ability for the other youth clubs to still be competitive. I think over all -- its safe to say they have been competitive, maybe inconsistent across all age groups though.
Just out of curiosity and for my education -- did they take their top 03 and 04s on this trip? And for the purpose of a DA roster, I know this was mentioned elsewhere, but will the entire 03 and 04 group be rostered on the USDA team u17 team?
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 26, 2019 12:27:08 GMT -5
Very impressive trip -- unreal experience. Its always crazy to compare a true professional academy to the other pay to play clubs -- pretty amazing to think about the differences in resources and the ability for the other youth clubs to still be competitive. I think over all -- its safe to say they have been competitive, maybe inconsistent across all age groups though. Just out of curiosity and for my education -- did they take their top 03 and 04s on this trip? And for the purpose of a DA roster, I know this was mentioned elsewhere, but will the entire 03 and 04 group be rostered on the USDA team u17 team? Just out of curiosity and for my education -- did they take their top 03 and 04s on this trip? Of the combo U17s(approx. 44 2003s & 2004s), only 18 boys where chosen to make the trip. If my sources are right, they took 12(2003s), 5(2004s) and 1(2005). And for the purpose of a DA roster, I know this was mentioned elsewhere, but will the entire 03 and 04 group be rostered on the USDA team u17 team? Yes and no. They are technically two U17 teams. One is called the U17DA(primarily 2004s) and the other is U17X(primarily 2003s). The X team will mostly play the other GA Cup, MLS clubs and do international tournaments like the current English trip they are on. The DA team will play the regular season DA schedule, but some will "play up" based on how well they are doing with the U17x team.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 27, 2019 11:55:30 GMT -5
England Tour Update:
AU vs West Brom 1-1 AU vs Spurs 1-0
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Post by soccergirlz on Aug 27, 2019 13:51:09 GMT -5
England Tour Update: AU vs West Brom 1-1 AU vs Spurs 1-0 Impressive for the squad and your sources are fairly accurate. The West Brom squad was a u18 team.
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Post by soccernoleuk on Aug 27, 2019 14:54:20 GMT -5
England Tour Update: AU vs West Brom 1-1 AU vs Spurs 1-0 Just beating sp*rs makes this a successful trip in my book.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 27, 2019 14:59:13 GMT -5
Wow -- a handful of 03 to 05s tied a group of 02s? sounds like they got robbed on a winning goal taking away also.
I've always heard at < U19 we are doing fine here in the states, it's the u19 - u23 years where we fall behind.
Do you think this group favors athleticism or technical ability or a fine balance of both?
Scary to think that we will have a 2003 and/or 2004 homegrown most likely during this season!
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Post by krazykickers on Aug 27, 2019 19:30:42 GMT -5
One of the 04s that went is new to AU having been picked up from NCFC
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 27, 2019 21:31:52 GMT -5
One of the 04s that went is new to AU having been picked up from NCFC True, but thankfully he's familiar with the team and their style of play since he played with them last year in the GA Cup games...
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 29, 2019 19:43:16 GMT -5
Another game vs Birmingham City FC and another 1 zip win 👏👏👏
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 31, 2019 13:23:53 GMT -5
Another game vs Burnley and another tie. So in their 4 game swing thru the UK, 2 ties, 2 wins and Zero Losses 👏👏👏
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Post by soccerrus on Sept 2, 2019 9:54:36 GMT -5
Well the 17s took a beating yesterday -- NCFC 4 AU 0. Not as 04 heavy as AU, but NCFC played 5 04 minutes.
19s lost 5-3, the Concorde pick up having a hat trick.
Has US soccer removed the start rule? AU has 40 players rostered as Full time players with the 17s. Will be very interesting to see who is rostered for their next game against Dynamo.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 2, 2019 10:07:29 GMT -5
Well the 17s took a beating yesterday -- NCFC 4 AU 0. Not as 04 heavy as AU, but NCFC played 5 04 minutes. 19s lost 5-3, the Concorde pick up having a hat trick. Has US soccer removed the start rule? AU has 40 players rostered as Full time players with the 17s. Will be very interesting to see who is rostered for their next game against Dynamo. Interestingly, there used to be an enforced 25% start rule, looks like its not just a "recommendation" 25% Minimum Start RecommendationAll U-13 through U-18/19 full-time Academy players, including goalkeepers, are recommended but not required to start in at least 25% of their club’s Academy games during the season. The official record of player starts will be on the game report and player statistics available publicly online. The DA Club is responsible for keeping track of starts by Academy players and must notify the DA Staff about potential exceptions as soon as possible. 1. If a player is released by the club and the player failed to start 25% of the Academy games for the season, the club must submit a written explanation to DA Staff within ten (10) days of the player’s release. The DA Staff reserves the right to refuse to release the player if the release is to avoid the 25% start recommendations. 2. If a player is added midseason, the player should start at least 25% of the team’s remaining Academy games during the season. 3. The DA Staff will have the authority, upon request by the club, to allow exceptions to this recommendation in special circumstances (e.g. a serious injury suffered by a player). 4. Suggested Playing Time Recommendations for U-13: For the U-13 age group, players are expected to play a minimum of 50% of game minutes per month and recommended to start 25% of games, as part of the individual player development plan. 5. U.S. Soccer reserves the right to fine a club or disallow the addition of new players as a penalty for failing to make reasonable efforts for all players meet the 25% minimum start recommendation. The DA will also take this into consideration when reviewing a club’s membership for renewal.
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Post by krazykickers on Sept 2, 2019 10:47:10 GMT -5
Well the 17s took a beating yesterday -- NCFC 4 AU 0. Not as 04 heavy as AU, but NCFC played 5 04 minutes. 19s lost 5-3, the Concorde pick up having a hat trick. Has US soccer removed the start rule? AU has 40 players rostered as Full time players with the 17s. Will be very interesting to see who is rostered for their next game against Dynamo. Their top 18 from that 16/17 team were still in England or in route home so I do not expect the next result to be the same. Unless those same 18 will be gone to Europe for most of their games this season
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Post by nani17 on Sept 2, 2019 14:58:05 GMT -5
Well the 17s took a beating yesterday -- NCFC 4 AU 0. Not as 04 heavy as AU, but NCFC played 5 04 minutes. 19s lost 5-3, the Concorde pick up having a hat trick. Has US soccer removed the start rule? AU has 40 players rostered as Full time players with the 17s. Will be very interesting to see who is rostered for their next game against Dynamo. Their top 18 from that 16/17 team were still in England or in route home so I do not expect the next result to be the same. Unless those same 18 will be gone to Europe for most of their games this season It’s actually exactly supposed to work the way it did. Team that went to England is the “plus” team or whatever verbiage. The DA team is supposed to be primarily 04s and will play out that schedule.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Sept 2, 2019 18:36:37 GMT -5
It’s actually exactly supposed to work the way it did. Actually it is not. The U17x will play the big tourney games like DA Cup, GA Cup and tournaments. These are primarily the 2003s with sprinkling of 2004s. The U17DA will play the regular DA schedule games. These are primarily the 2004s or what we would call the U16s The problem AU found was when the U16s would play non-DA games for a year, they needed more time the next season to get back into DA form. As an FYI, this weekend's games for the U15s, U17s and U19s were DA Cup games. Those for the U13s and U14s were regular season DA games.
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Post by nani17 on Sept 2, 2019 18:59:33 GMT -5
My mistake then! Silly me thought this was a DA game. Not a DA cup game.
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